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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 10:39 AM
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After having read "I am sick of all the enablers under "General Discussion" by Joe Fields, I have
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Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 10:43 AM by Cal33
now just read "Obama is already one of America's greatest presidents" by ProSense here
under "General Discussion: Presidency."

I must say that there are some excellent and true points to both messages, yet they
are the exact opposites of each other. These messages help one to see how Dems become
divided. A lot depends on which points are more important to the individual reader.
There are also some points I have never known anything about.

For those who haven't yet made up their minds, these messages could bring up points to
consider. They might even help one to understand oneself better.
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  -After having read "I am sick of all the enablers under "General Discussion" by Joe Fields, I have Cal33  Aug-21-11 10:39 AM   #0 
  - Some folks are focused on actual policy  Cali_Democrat   Aug-21-11 10:46 AM   #1 
  - Is that the difference?  Skinner   Aug-21-11 11:01 AM   #2 
  - I didn't say they care about speeches  Cali_Democrat   Aug-21-11 11:16 AM   #4 
  - You don't get it. We are not focusing on "Obama the person".  johnaries   Aug-21-11 03:04 PM   #27 
     - Depends on the poster.  Vattel   Aug-21-11 05:52 PM   #34 
        - I've never seen anyone like you describe here on DU. Everyone of us who support him have issues with  stevenleser   Aug-22-11 01:36 AM   #47 
  - Good to see you post. I've been wondering  Divernan   Aug-21-11 11:30 AM   #8 
  - There IS a middle-ground between pom-poms and pitchforks, but this IS about dichotomy  PurityOfEssence   Aug-21-11 02:13 PM   #20 
  - Ah POE, you're one of my new DU hero's...  Melinda   Aug-21-11 02:28 PM   #22 
  - Yikes!  PurityOfEssence   Aug-21-11 03:14 PM   #28 
     - Wow!  ProSense   Aug-21-11 03:17 PM   #29 
        - Confused?  Jakes Progress   Aug-21-11 06:10 PM   #35 
        - Ridiculous? n/t  ProSense   Aug-21-11 07:11 PM   #37 
           - Busy?  Jakes Progress   Aug-21-11 10:15 PM   #41 
        - I criticize Obama from the left; it's so obvious that anyone suggesting otherwise is either stupid  PurityOfEssence   Aug-21-11 09:12 PM   #38 
        - Left. Right. Liberal. Conservative.  Jakes Progress   Aug-21-11 10:17 PM   #42 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-22-11 12:23 AM   #46 
        - "For it before against it" is a RW meme  politicasista   Aug-22-11 01:44 PM   #49 
        - Bush, Rove, and Steele are ltao.  politicasista   Aug-22-11 01:30 PM   #48 
  - recommend  noiretextatique   Aug-21-11 02:33 PM   #24 
  - Hmmm?  ProSense   Aug-21-11 02:54 PM   #26 
  - Well said, PoE...  awoke_in_2003   Aug-21-11 05:12 PM   #33 
     - Ever see a commie drink a glass of water?  PurityOfEssence   Aug-21-11 09:35 PM   #39 
        - Love your posts. Thank you. nt  woo me with science   Aug-21-11 09:49 PM   #40 
        - "political satire became obsolete once Kissinger won the Peace Prize."  awoke_in_2003   Aug-21-11 10:34 PM   #43 
  - I know. I was going to PM someone to find out which side that comment came from!  Whisp   Aug-21-11 04:31 PM   #31 
  - Well put! Of the four tendencies you mentioned, I think I personally find "actual policy" and  Cal33   Aug-21-11 11:02 AM   #3 
  - actual policy - stuff like  banned from Kos   Aug-21-11 11:17 AM   #6 
     - Yes, "stuff like that," even though I don't like his habit of giving in to and appeasing the  Cal33   Aug-21-11 11:36 AM   #9 
     - Let's talk about these  zipplewrath   Aug-21-11 12:51 PM   #16 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-21-11 11:17 AM   #5 
  - So you're suggesting that those of us who like the President don't care about policy? Really?  vaberella   Aug-21-11 12:43 PM   #15 
  - Bull. You show little to no attention to the facts. Opinion is your trade.  TrainToCry   Aug-21-11 12:58 PM   #17 
  - So we have enablers and disablers....  Uben   Aug-21-11 11:19 AM   #7 
  - If you don't allow a big tent, the circus is going to split up. e.g., look at '48, and '52  leveymg   Aug-21-11 11:51 AM   #10 
  - Here's what  ProSense   Aug-21-11 12:02 PM   #11 
  - Note which post treats DUers with derision and scorn for supporting a Democrat.  DevonRex   Aug-21-11 12:07 PM   #12 
  - +1  great white snark   Aug-21-11 12:16 PM   #13 
  - I think the post you are referring to  MissDeeds   Aug-21-11 12:23 PM   #14 
     - As I said, note which post treats DUers with derision and scorn  DevonRex   Aug-21-11 02:12 PM   #19 
        - Which Democrat would that be? n/t  Hydra   Aug-21-11 02:30 PM   #23 
  - Some of us are "enablers" of Obama... some, like Joe Fields in GD, are enablers of the GOP  scheming daemons   Aug-21-11 01:11 PM   #18 
  - I don't think either should be enabled!  Little Star   Aug-21-11 04:54 PM   #32 
  - So you admit to enabling  Jakes Progress   Aug-21-11 06:11 PM   #36 
  - Legislation VS. personality:  blkmusclmachine   Aug-21-11 02:21 PM   #21 
  - I think many of us, on both sides, are more elastic than it seems, but  gateley   Aug-21-11 02:33 PM   #25 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-21-11 03:56 PM   #30 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-21-11 10:47 PM   #44 
  - Be sure to read ProSense's new OP too, on the link below  Tx4obama   Aug-21-11 11:57 PM   #45 

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