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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 03:18 AM
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144. Either way, we'll get GOP legislation:
Might as well let the Pukes own it.
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  -Is it worth actually losing SS, Medicare, the Supreme Court, Healthcare Reform, TrainToCry  Aug-19-11 12:33 AM   #0 
  - If we lose SS, Medicare, the Supreme Court, Healthcare Reform, etc.  sakabatou   Aug-19-11 12:35 AM   #1 
  - It's a guarantee if Obama loses.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:41 AM   #2 
     - Wait. I forget who's President right now because it is the Current prez who stated those very things  txlibdem   Aug-19-11 09:20 PM   #140 
  - I don't negotiate with terrorists.  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 12:41 AM   #3 
  - You'll show him! (Or us, or whomever you're referring to).  gateley   Aug-19-11 12:43 AM   #5 
  - The whole Vote for Obama or they will take away Social Security...  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 12:47 AM   #8 
     - Much more than SS will be axed and you know it.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:57 AM   #15 
     - I don't mean to make terrorist threats - but I'm not SURE  gateley   Aug-19-11 01:16 AM   #25 
        - I will no longer stand behind a party or a President that doesn't deliver.  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 12:35 PM   #87 
           - Ditto  Carolina   Aug-19-11 12:42 PM   #94 
           - Sincerely and seriously -- where will you go? And, not being  gateley   Aug-19-11 03:08 PM   #110 
              - Why are we "still here"? Because this is Democratic Underground, not Third Way Underground.  Divernan   Aug-19-11 05:13 PM   #119 
                 - But if you're unhappy with the current state of the Democratic  gateley   Aug-19-11 07:40 PM   #135 
  - You'd rather let the hostages (The entire American populace) die??  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:45 AM   #6 
     - I would rather see policies promoted that will help the poor, the middle Class,  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 12:49 AM   #10 
        - And you're going to get that from the GOP?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 01:00 AM   #16 
        - I don't know who I will vote for  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 01:06 AM   #20 
           - So you'll throw your vote in the trash bin because it has earned it?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 01:14 AM   #24 
              - I have no knowledge of Turd blossoms sex life...  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 01:18 AM   #26 
              - You need to stop thinking in absolutes. They do not exist in reality.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 02:33 AM   #35 
              - You need to qut thinking you can read my mind...And quit thinking in absolutes.  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 12:09 PM   #78 
                 - Big Talk, Little Action  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:33 PM   #85 
                    - Obama is bringing his administration, his party, and his nation down..  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 12:40 PM   #91 
                       - Handing the coutry over to the GOP out of spite is the most disloyal thing I've ever heard.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:48 PM   #97 
                          - Obama is our representative, and he is disloyal to us by his choices of policies...  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 01:16 PM   #105 
                             - Obama doesn't govern by poll. He has to get things through an actual Congress.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 05:41 PM   #124 
                                - Nope. He governs by lobbyists' campaign checks.  Divernan   Aug-19-11 06:49 PM   #130 
                                - You are lost. It's a bit sad.  TrainToCry   Aug-21-11 12:29 PM   #164 
                                - "He has to get things through an actual Congress."  Mr Deltoid   Aug-20-11 11:14 AM   #148 
              - excellent response, Ozymanithrax  Carolina   Aug-19-11 12:44 PM   #95 
                 - Thank you.  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 01:18 PM   #106 
              - i threw my vote in the trash bin in 2008 when i voted for obama  frylock   Aug-19-11 11:34 AM   #73 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-19-11 12:34 PM   #86 
              - "They" are not dividing "us".  a simple pattern   Aug-20-11 09:59 AM   #146 
        - and if that doesn't happen soon enough for you,  pnorman   Aug-19-11 01:44 AM   #30 
           - To look for and support candidates who will develop real liberal policies...  Ozymanithrax   Aug-19-11 12:25 PM   #82 
  - I really agree, TrainToCry -- and welcome to DU!  gateley   Aug-19-11 12:42 AM   #4 
  - thanks. what's the point of recs if you can't see who made them?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:48 AM   #9 
     - The new DU will show who recs, don't know if it'll show who  gateley   Aug-19-11 01:14 AM   #23 
  - How is it that we would not lose these things if Obama is re-elected?  Lasher   Aug-19-11 12:46 AM   #7 
  - So a Repuke would be better? Sotomayor and Kagen weren't good enough for you?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:51 AM   #12 
     - Sotomayor wasn't good enough for me, she's a centrist.  Lasher   Aug-19-11 07:04 AM   #59 
        - As a lawyer, I agree w/you. Obama's picks are centrists.  Divernan   Aug-19-11 08:50 AM   #65 
        - I think you're absolutely correct.  COLGATE4   Aug-21-11 11:55 AM   #157 
        - That's food for thought...  Supersedeas   Aug-23-11 10:13 AM   #167 
        - Thats a load of horse shit. Some of you really do have no clue where the center is at all.  phleshdef   Aug-19-11 10:47 AM   #70 
           - Sotomayor is considered a political centrist by the American Bar Association  Lasher   Aug-19-11 12:06 PM   #77 
  - Agreed, but to some people here it's worth it.  TheWraith   Aug-19-11 12:50 AM   #11 
  - I can't believe that they're too blind to see this.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:53 AM   #13 
  - i don't think it's about teaching him a lesson  griffi94   Aug-19-11 12:53 AM   #14 
  - So you lend aid to the GOP? Like it or not, that is what a nonvote is.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 01:02 AM   #17 
  - i didn't realize we were playing ball  griffi94   Aug-19-11 01:19 AM   #27 
     - Obama is only comparable to Repugs in the minds of the supremely deluded.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 02:48 AM   #36 
        - of course there's a difference  griffi94   Aug-19-11 03:14 AM   #40 
           - You disagree with liberal Supreme Court justices?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:32 AM   #51 
              - i don't represent anybody  griffi94   Aug-19-11 04:46 AM   #57 
              - You're right you don't. And when Obama becomes the Democratic Nominee once again,  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:27 PM   #83 
                 - i always vote  griffi94   Aug-19-11 04:32 PM   #115 
              - obama didn't nominate anyone for the SC that can even remotely be considered progressive  frylock   Aug-19-11 11:52 AM   #76 
  - One's Principle wins over the welfare of millions? How kewl is that?  FrenchieCat   Aug-19-11 01:05 AM   #19 
  - You nailed it.  emilyg   Aug-19-11 01:11 AM   #22 
  - He definitely nailed your mindset down, that's for sure.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:09 AM   #37 
     - Keep wagging that finger  Union Scribe   Aug-19-11 03:23 AM   #45 
        - If that were true most of the Obama detractors would be fingerless.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:25 AM   #47 
  - He is the President of all of America, hence, he will NEVER be what they want. They're supposed to  patrice   Aug-19-11 01:23 AM   #28 
     - see i thought  griffi94   Aug-19-11 01:45 AM   #31 
        - You win. He has no values whatsoever. He's a Manchurian AntiChrist.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:11 AM   #38 
        - you seem to be arguing with yourself  griffi94   Aug-19-11 03:16 AM   #41 
           - I used to think most Democrats were rational, like me.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:19 AM   #43 
              - what was it will rogers said  griffi94   Aug-19-11 03:28 AM   #50 
                 - what does that prove? is that some kind of defense of your position?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:34 AM   #52 
                    - lol no  griffi94   Aug-19-11 03:51 AM   #53 
                       - So Obama supports none of your values?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 04:00 AM   #55 
                          - hahaha  griffi94   Aug-19-11 04:17 AM   #56 
                             - I'm not the one gnashing, pal. I'm happy with the job Obama's doing.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:23 PM   #81 
                                - Now you're really cracking me up  griffi94   Aug-19-11 04:36 PM   #117 
        - It absolutely baffles me when people act like he should give equal value  Union Scribe   Aug-19-11 03:26 AM   #48 
  - Like.  jwirr   Aug-19-11 01:02 AM   #18 
  - We aren't going to LOSE what He has already GIVEN AWAY  LaydeeBug   Aug-19-11 01:09 AM   #21 
  - You're still talking about things that haven't happened like they have.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:13 AM   #39 
  - I doubt anyone is interested in teaching Obama a lesson.  frustrated_lefty   Aug-19-11 01:34 AM   #29 
  - Really? That's what it's like? Let me know when you return from the abyss of pure abstracts.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:27 AM   #49 
     - Let me tell you something....  emilyg   Aug-19-11 12:20 PM   #80 
        - Awww, How pure, How righteous. Must feel good.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:30 PM   #84 
           - for someone so new  Carolina   Aug-19-11 12:49 PM   #98 
           - is a post count some kind of indication of post worth around here??  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:51 PM   #101 
              - yes, many of them are seasoned and  Carolina   Aug-19-11 12:55 PM   #102 
                 - If I had 10000 posts would you automatically give me respect?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:58 PM   #103 
           - Yes - it feels good. Enjoy your day.  emilyg   Aug-19-11 01:08 PM   #104 
              - Ignorance is bliss. Washing your hands like Pilate.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 05:44 PM   #125 
                 - To thine own self be true. If  emilyg   Aug-19-11 09:13 PM   #136 
                    - You're pretty good at making selfishness sound noble.  TrainToCry   Aug-21-11 12:33 PM   #165 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-19-11 01:49 AM   # 
  - To third party base-builders it is, TrainToCry. Hence the oversimplified absolutes and faulty reason  patrice   Aug-19-11 01:49 AM   #32 
  - There will not be a viable Third Party in the US for the next 20 years or maybe even more.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:17 AM   #42 
     - Aren't you doing the same?  emilyg   Aug-19-11 09:17 PM   #138 
  - Suffering builds character  jberryhill   Aug-19-11 02:08 AM   #33 
  - These people are the definition of selfish. Punish everybody because you're miffed.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 03:21 AM   #44 
  - No sale.  girl gone mad   Aug-19-11 02:16 AM   #34 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-19-11 03:24 AM   #46 
  - How do we lose the Supreme Court?  rpannier   Aug-19-11 03:55 AM   #54 
  - look it's the boogeyman!  midnight armadillo   Aug-19-11 06:12 AM   #58 
  - You can deny it all you want. When the cards fall it's either Obama or them.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:36 PM   #88 
     - Karmic debt?  ladyVet   Aug-21-11 11:16 AM   #155 
  - It will all be Obama's fault, too!  alcibiades_mystery   Aug-19-11 07:33 AM   #60 
  - the entire threaten and bully routine is so stale and tired  Bluenorthwest   Aug-19-11 07:36 AM   #61 
  - Kind of like the routine threats of a primary challange against Obama. nt  JoePhilly   Aug-19-11 08:49 AM   #64 
  - I see I touched a nerve. I must be describing you to a tee, eh?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:38 PM   #89 
  - He is a Third Way Democrat. His economic goals are the same as those of the Republicans.  woo me with science   Aug-19-11 07:37 AM   #62 
  - OP's threat US would "lose respect for our Nation abroad" is particularly specious & vacuous!  Divernan   Aug-19-11 08:38 AM   #63 
  - That is really an excellent observation.  woo me with science   Aug-19-11 12:12 PM   #79 
  - It irks you that Obama is beloved throughout the World, doesn't it?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:41 PM   #92 
     - OMG! You couldn't be more wrong! "The world" is furious at Obama's bungled handling  Divernan   Aug-19-11 04:15 PM   #112 
     - did you see what happened when Obama actually went to Ireland?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 05:33 PM   #121 
        - That was then. This is now. It took just a year for the disillusionment to hit across the pond.  Divernan   Aug-19-11 06:51 PM   #131 
        - Ahem  Number23   Aug-21-11 12:43 AM   #154 
        - You really need to get a more realistic grasp on what people in other  COLGATE4   Aug-21-11 12:06 PM   #158 
     - EU Finance Regulator Criticizes Obama Administration on Banker Bonuses  Divernan   Aug-19-11 04:36 PM   #116 
     - Back in 2010: Confidence in Obama plunges in Europe too  Divernan   Aug-19-11 04:41 PM   #118 
     - He was. Not now.  emilyg   Aug-19-11 09:19 PM   #139 
  - Do you even care if you speak the truth anymore? Or is your vendetta too near and dear?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:40 PM   #90 
  - My goodness, do you mean to imply that we have met before?.  woo me with science   Aug-19-11 01:21 PM   #107 
     - your venom for Obama litters this board. do you think it is so hard to see?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 05:30 PM   #120 
     - He is the President of the United States,  woo me with science   Aug-19-11 06:23 PM   #127 
     - Excellent riposte. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it?  Divernan   Aug-19-11 06:54 PM   #133 
     - Excellent!  COLGATE4   Aug-21-11 12:08 PM   #159 
     - Sure it's not because you've "littered this board" before?  Union Scribe   Aug-20-11 01:57 AM   #143 
        - The truth smells the same no matter what mouth it comes from.  TrainToCry   Aug-21-11 12:23 PM   #161 
     - sock puppet or returning tombstoner under the radar?  SwampG8r   Aug-23-11 10:58 AM   #168 
  - Exactly K&R  Carolina   Aug-19-11 12:51 PM   #100 
  - He's a bit more liberal than Bill Clinton.  cottonseed   Aug-19-11 01:54 PM   #108 
     - How so? How many wars did Clinton continue/initiate?  Divernan   Aug-19-11 04:28 PM   #114 
  - You're describing what's happening under Obama.  grahamhgreen   Aug-19-11 09:26 AM   #66 
  - +1000  Hawkowl   Aug-19-11 10:07 AM   #68 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-19-11 12:42 PM   #93 
     - 'if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy  grahamhgreen   Aug-19-11 02:55 PM   #109 
        - The Healthcare Mandate is what ended the pre-existing condition,  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 05:37 PM   #122 
           - No the two items do not need to be entwined. if we get rid of the mandate but  grahamhgreen   Aug-19-11 11:48 PM   #142 
              - But in the real world, the issues are entwined.  TrainToCry   Aug-21-11 12:26 PM   #162 
  - The 2012 race is looking like CA governor race ..a group of misfits  ilovemydogmore   Aug-19-11 09:32 AM   #67 
  - It is to the trolls on this board and disruptors. There are some with an agenda and others that are  Pisces   Aug-19-11 10:38 AM   #69 
  - ahhhhhh, fearmongering! I thought it was just the RW that had a lock on this  Donnachaidh   Aug-19-11 11:03 AM   #71 
  - We have more to fear than just fear itself. You act like the GOP doesn't exist.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:47 PM   #96 
     - I understand. You're not here to change anyone's mind -  Divernan   Aug-19-11 04:26 PM   #113 
        - I'm here to speak the truth. Can you handle it?  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 05:39 PM   #123 
           - It was a stupid line in the movie and it's a stupid line here.  COLGATE4   Aug-21-11 12:09 PM   #160 
              - There is a difference. I think you can handle the truth.  TrainToCry   Aug-21-11 12:27 PM   #163 
  - How are SS, Medicare, Healthcare Reform, and the SS  LWolf   Aug-19-11 11:18 AM   #72 
  - No cuts have been made to any of those programs, despite all the Firebagger gossip.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 12:49 PM   #99 
     - Accuracy doesn't fit your framing.  LWolf   Aug-20-11 10:23 AM   #147 
  - Good question! nt  cry baby   Aug-19-11 11:40 AM   #74 
  - K&R  Wait Wut   Aug-19-11 11:43 AM   #75 
  - It's not about teaching a lesson. It's not about Obama. Those who are so  moksha   Aug-19-11 03:12 PM   #111 
  - Can you post the link to the law that altered SS, Medicare or Medicaid? Thanks.  TrainToCry   Aug-19-11 05:45 PM   #126 
     - He has signed off on reform. It is in the deficit commission deal.  moksha   Aug-19-11 06:27 PM   #128 
        - He recently said all it needs are minor adjustments without slashing benefits.  great white snark   Aug-19-11 06:45 PM   #129 
        - the very carefully constructed talking point  Warren Stupidity   Aug-19-11 07:21 PM   #134 
        - Maybe he said that, but can you show me where that is the policy written  moksha   Aug-20-11 08:46 AM   #145 
        - So you have no real evidence. Just hearsay?  TrainToCry   Aug-21-11 12:34 PM   #166 
           - hearsay?its from the wh website... even if they write it down and show you  SwampG8r   Aug-23-11 11:03 AM   #169 
  - "Mares eat oats, and does eat oats, and I'll be home for Christmas. Signed..."  Zenlitened   Aug-19-11 06:51 PM   #132 
  - Hello.  bigwillq   Aug-19-11 09:14 PM   #137 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-19-11 09:30 PM   #141 
  - Either way, we'll get GOP legislation:  blkmusclmachine   Aug-20-11 03:18 AM   #144 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-20-11 11:34 AM   #149 
  - Already happening under a Democratic President  swilton   Aug-20-11 12:16 PM   #150 
  - Unfortunately, both sides are bought and paid for . . . and not by us.  Vinca   Aug-20-11 12:52 PM   #151 
  - We don't have the Supreme Court, HCR is a joke and Obama himself offered to trade away  Exilednight   Aug-20-11 04:17 PM   #152 
  - Real mavericks punch six hippies before lunch!  Creideiki   Aug-20-11 11:32 PM   #153 
  - I have done nothing to lose any of those things.  ladyVet   Aug-21-11 11:34 AM   #156 

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