| 72. How are SS, Medicare, Healthcare Reform, and the SS |
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not losing under the Obama administration?
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| -Is it worth actually losing SS, Medicare, the Supreme Court, Healthcare Reform, |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:33 AM |
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If we lose SS, Medicare, the Supreme Court, Healthcare Reform, etc. |
sakabatou |
Aug-19-11 12:35 AM |
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It's a guarantee if Obama loses. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:41 AM |
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Wait. I forget who's President right now because it is the Current prez who stated those very things |
txlibdem |
Aug-19-11 09:20 PM |
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I don't negotiate with terrorists. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:41 AM |
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You'll show him! (Or us, or whomever you're referring to). |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 12:43 AM |
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The whole Vote for Obama or they will take away Social Security... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:47 AM |
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Much more than SS will be axed and you know it. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:57 AM |
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I don't mean to make terrorist threats - but I'm not SURE |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 01:16 AM |
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I will no longer stand behind a party or a President that doesn't deliver. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:35 PM |
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Ditto |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:42 PM |
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Sincerely and seriously -- where will you go? And, not being |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 03:08 PM |
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Why are we "still here"? Because this is Democratic Underground, not Third Way Underground. |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 05:13 PM |
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But if you're unhappy with the current state of the Democratic |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 07:40 PM |
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You'd rather let the hostages (The entire American populace) die?? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:45 AM |
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I would rather see policies promoted that will help the poor, the middle Class, |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:49 AM |
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And you're going to get that from the GOP? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 01:00 AM |
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I don't know who I will vote for |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 01:06 AM |
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So you'll throw your vote in the trash bin because it has earned it? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 01:14 AM |
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I have no knowledge of Turd blossoms sex life... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 01:18 AM |
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You need to stop thinking in absolutes. They do not exist in reality. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 02:33 AM |
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You need to qut thinking you can read my mind...And quit thinking in absolutes. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:09 PM |
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Big Talk, Little Action |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:33 PM |
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Obama is bringing his administration, his party, and his nation down.. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:40 PM |
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Handing the coutry over to the GOP out of spite is the most disloyal thing I've ever heard. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:48 PM |
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Obama is our representative, and he is disloyal to us by his choices of policies... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 01:16 PM |
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Obama doesn't govern by poll. He has to get things through an actual Congress. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:41 PM |
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Nope. He governs by lobbyists' campaign checks. |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 06:49 PM |
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You are lost. It's a bit sad. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:29 PM |
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"He has to get things through an actual Congress." |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-20-11 11:14 AM |
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excellent response, Ozymanithrax |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:44 PM |
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Thank you. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 01:18 PM |
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i threw my vote in the trash bin in 2008 when i voted for obama |
frylock |
Aug-19-11 11:34 AM |
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Aug-19-11 12:34 PM |
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"They" are not dividing "us". |
a simple pattern |
Aug-20-11 09:59 AM |
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and if that doesn't happen soon enough for you, |
pnorman |
Aug-19-11 01:44 AM |
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To look for and support candidates who will develop real liberal policies... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:25 PM |
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I really agree, TrainToCry -- and welcome to DU! |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 12:42 AM |
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thanks. what's the point of recs if you can't see who made them? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:48 AM |
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The new DU will show who recs, don't know if it'll show who |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 01:14 AM |
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How is it that we would not lose these things if Obama is re-elected? |
Lasher |
Aug-19-11 12:46 AM |
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So a Repuke would be better? Sotomayor and Kagen weren't good enough for you? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:51 AM |
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Sotomayor wasn't good enough for me, she's a centrist. |
Lasher |
Aug-19-11 07:04 AM |
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As a lawyer, I agree w/you. Obama's picks are centrists. |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 08:50 AM |
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I think you're absolutely correct. |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-21-11 11:55 AM |
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That's food for thought... |
Supersedeas |
Aug-23-11 10:13 AM |
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Thats a load of horse shit. Some of you really do have no clue where the center is at all. |
phleshdef |
Aug-19-11 10:47 AM |
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Sotomayor is considered a political centrist by the American Bar Association |
Lasher |
Aug-19-11 12:06 PM |
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Agreed, but to some people here it's worth it. |
TheWraith |
Aug-19-11 12:50 AM |
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I can't believe that they're too blind to see this. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:53 AM |
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i don't think it's about teaching him a lesson |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 12:53 AM |
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So you lend aid to the GOP? Like it or not, that is what a nonvote is. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 01:02 AM |
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i didn't realize we were playing ball |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 01:19 AM |
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Obama is only comparable to Repugs in the minds of the supremely deluded. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 02:48 AM |
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of course there's a difference |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 03:14 AM |
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You disagree with liberal Supreme Court justices? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:32 AM |
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i don't represent anybody |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 04:46 AM |
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You're right you don't. And when Obama becomes the Democratic Nominee once again, |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:27 PM |
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i always vote |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 04:32 PM |
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obama didn't nominate anyone for the SC that can even remotely be considered progressive |
frylock |
Aug-19-11 11:52 AM |
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One's Principle wins over the welfare of millions? How kewl is that? |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-19-11 01:05 AM |
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You nailed it. |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 01:11 AM |
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He definitely nailed your mindset down, that's for sure. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:09 AM |
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Keep wagging that finger |
Union Scribe |
Aug-19-11 03:23 AM |
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If that were true most of the Obama detractors would be fingerless. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:25 AM |
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He is the President of all of America, hence, he will NEVER be what they want. They're supposed to |
patrice |
Aug-19-11 01:23 AM |
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see i thought |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 01:45 AM |
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You win. He has no values whatsoever. He's a Manchurian AntiChrist. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:11 AM |
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you seem to be arguing with yourself |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 03:16 AM |
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I used to think most Democrats were rational, like me. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:19 AM |
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what was it will rogers said |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 03:28 AM |
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what does that prove? is that some kind of defense of your position? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:34 AM |
#52 |
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lol no |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 03:51 AM |
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So Obama supports none of your values? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 04:00 AM |
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hahaha |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 04:17 AM |
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I'm not the one gnashing, pal. I'm happy with the job Obama's doing. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:23 PM |
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Now you're really cracking me up |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 04:36 PM |
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It absolutely baffles me when people act like he should give equal value |
Union Scribe |
Aug-19-11 03:26 AM |
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Like. |
jwirr |
Aug-19-11 01:02 AM |
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We aren't going to LOSE what He has already GIVEN AWAY |
LaydeeBug |
Aug-19-11 01:09 AM |
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You're still talking about things that haven't happened like they have. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:13 AM |
#39 |
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I doubt anyone is interested in teaching Obama a lesson. |
frustrated_lefty |
Aug-19-11 01:34 AM |
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Really? That's what it's like? Let me know when you return from the abyss of pure abstracts. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:27 AM |
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Let me tell you something.... |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 12:20 PM |
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Awww, How pure, How righteous. Must feel good. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:30 PM |
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for someone so new |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:49 PM |
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is a post count some kind of indication of post worth around here?? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:51 PM |
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yes, many of them are seasoned and |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:55 PM |
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If I had 10000 posts would you automatically give me respect? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:58 PM |
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Yes - it feels good. Enjoy your day. |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 01:08 PM |
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Ignorance is bliss. Washing your hands like Pilate. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:44 PM |
#125 |
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To thine own self be true. If |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 09:13 PM |
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You're pretty good at making selfishness sound noble. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:33 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-19-11 01:49 AM |
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To third party base-builders it is, TrainToCry. Hence the oversimplified absolutes and faulty reason |
patrice |
Aug-19-11 01:49 AM |
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There will not be a viable Third Party in the US for the next 20 years or maybe even more. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:17 AM |
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Aren't you doing the same? |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 09:17 PM |
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Suffering builds character |
jberryhill |
Aug-19-11 02:08 AM |
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These people are the definition of selfish. Punish everybody because you're miffed. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:21 AM |
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No sale. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-19-11 02:16 AM |
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Aug-19-11 03:24 AM |
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How do we lose the Supreme Court? |
rpannier |
Aug-19-11 03:55 AM |
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look it's the boogeyman! |
midnight armadillo |
Aug-19-11 06:12 AM |
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You can deny it all you want. When the cards fall it's either Obama or them. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:36 PM |
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Karmic debt? |
ladyVet |
Aug-21-11 11:16 AM |
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It will all be Obama's fault, too! |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-19-11 07:33 AM |
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the entire threaten and bully routine is so stale and tired |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-19-11 07:36 AM |
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Kind of like the routine threats of a primary challange against Obama. nt |
JoePhilly |
Aug-19-11 08:49 AM |
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I see I touched a nerve. I must be describing you to a tee, eh? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:38 PM |
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He is a Third Way Democrat. His economic goals are the same as those of the Republicans. |
woo me with science |
Aug-19-11 07:37 AM |
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OP's threat US would "lose respect for our Nation abroad" is particularly specious & vacuous! |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 08:38 AM |
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That is really an excellent observation. |
woo me with science |
Aug-19-11 12:12 PM |
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It irks you that Obama is beloved throughout the World, doesn't it? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:41 PM |
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OMG! You couldn't be more wrong! "The world" is furious at Obama's bungled handling |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:15 PM |
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did you see what happened when Obama actually went to Ireland? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:33 PM |
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That was then. This is now. It took just a year for the disillusionment to hit across the pond. |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 06:51 PM |
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Ahem |
Number23 |
Aug-21-11 12:43 AM |
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You really need to get a more realistic grasp on what people in other |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-21-11 12:06 PM |
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EU Finance Regulator Criticizes Obama Administration on Banker Bonuses |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:36 PM |
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Back in 2010: Confidence in Obama plunges in Europe too |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:41 PM |
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He was. Not now. |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 09:19 PM |
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Do you even care if you speak the truth anymore? Or is your vendetta too near and dear? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:40 PM |
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My goodness, do you mean to imply that we have met before?. |
woo me with science |
Aug-19-11 01:21 PM |
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your venom for Obama litters this board. do you think it is so hard to see? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:30 PM |
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He is the President of the United States, |
woo me with science |
Aug-19-11 06:23 PM |
#127 |
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Excellent riposte. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it? |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 06:54 PM |
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Excellent! |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-21-11 12:08 PM |
#159 |
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Sure it's not because you've "littered this board" before? |
Union Scribe |
Aug-20-11 01:57 AM |
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The truth smells the same no matter what mouth it comes from. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:23 PM |
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sock puppet or returning tombstoner under the radar? |
SwampG8r |
Aug-23-11 10:58 AM |
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Exactly K&R |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:51 PM |
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He's a bit more liberal than Bill Clinton. |
cottonseed |
Aug-19-11 01:54 PM |
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How so? How many wars did Clinton continue/initiate? |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:28 PM |
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You're describing what's happening under Obama. |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-19-11 09:26 AM |
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+1000 |
Hawkowl |
Aug-19-11 10:07 AM |
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Aug-19-11 12:42 PM |
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'if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-19-11 02:55 PM |
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The Healthcare Mandate is what ended the pre-existing condition, |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:37 PM |
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No the two items do not need to be entwined. if we get rid of the mandate but |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-19-11 11:48 PM |
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But in the real world, the issues are entwined. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:26 PM |
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The 2012 race is looking like CA governor race ..a group of misfits |
ilovemydogmore |
Aug-19-11 09:32 AM |
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It is to the trolls on this board and disruptors. There are some with an agenda and others that are |
Pisces |
Aug-19-11 10:38 AM |
#69 |
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ahhhhhh, fearmongering! I thought it was just the RW that had a lock on this |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-19-11 11:03 AM |
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We have more to fear than just fear itself. You act like the GOP doesn't exist. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:47 PM |
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I understand. You're not here to change anyone's mind - |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:26 PM |
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I'm here to speak the truth. Can you handle it? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:39 PM |
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It was a stupid line in the movie and it's a stupid line here. |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-21-11 12:09 PM |
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There is a difference. I think you can handle the truth. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:27 PM |
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How are SS, Medicare, Healthcare Reform, and the SS |
LWolf |
Aug-19-11 11:18 AM |
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No cuts have been made to any of those programs, despite all the Firebagger gossip. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:49 PM |
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Accuracy doesn't fit your framing. |
LWolf |
Aug-20-11 10:23 AM |
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Good question! nt |
cry baby |
Aug-19-11 11:40 AM |
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K&R |
Wait Wut |
Aug-19-11 11:43 AM |
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It's not about teaching a lesson. It's not about Obama. Those who are so |
moksha |
Aug-19-11 03:12 PM |
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Can you post the link to the law that altered SS, Medicare or Medicaid? Thanks. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:45 PM |
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He has signed off on reform. It is in the deficit commission deal. |
moksha |
Aug-19-11 06:27 PM |
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He recently said all it needs are minor adjustments without slashing benefits. |
great white snark |
Aug-19-11 06:45 PM |
#129 |
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the very carefully constructed talking point |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-19-11 07:21 PM |
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Maybe he said that, but can you show me where that is the policy written |
moksha |
Aug-20-11 08:46 AM |
#145 |
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So you have no real evidence. Just hearsay? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:34 PM |
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hearsay?its from the wh website... even if they write it down and show you |
SwampG8r |
Aug-23-11 11:03 AM |
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"Mares eat oats, and does eat oats, and I'll be home for Christmas. Signed..." |
Zenlitened |
Aug-19-11 06:51 PM |
#132 |
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Hello. |
bigwillq |
Aug-19-11 09:14 PM |
#137 |
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Aug-19-11 09:30 PM |
#141 |
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Either way, we'll get GOP legislation: |
blkmusclmachine |
Aug-20-11 03:18 AM |
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Aug-20-11 11:34 AM |
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Already happening under a Democratic President |
swilton |
Aug-20-11 12:16 PM |
#150 |
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Unfortunately, both sides are bought and paid for . . . and not by us. |
Vinca |
Aug-20-11 12:52 PM |
#151 |
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We don't have the Supreme Court, HCR is a joke and Obama himself offered to trade away |
Exilednight |
Aug-20-11 04:17 PM |
#152 |
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Real mavericks punch six hippies before lunch! |
Creideiki |
Aug-20-11 11:32 PM |
#153 |
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I have done nothing to lose any of those things. |
ladyVet |
Aug-21-11 11:34 AM |
#156 |