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| 58. look it's the boogeyman! |
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To summarize your argument: "You think Obama's bad, check out the GOP and be very very afraid!!" ...and since trampling all over activist Democrat ideology has no consequences, Obama and other national Democrats leaders will continue to pursue GOP-lite strategies that please their corporate donors. Don't you get why the GOP craps the bed if they cross the Tea Partiers? Because the teabaggers will vote them out of office.
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| -Is it worth actually losing SS, Medicare, the Supreme Court, Healthcare Reform, |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:33 AM |
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If we lose SS, Medicare, the Supreme Court, Healthcare Reform, etc. |
sakabatou |
Aug-19-11 12:35 AM |
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It's a guarantee if Obama loses. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:41 AM |
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Wait. I forget who's President right now because it is the Current prez who stated those very things |
txlibdem |
Aug-19-11 09:20 PM |
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I don't negotiate with terrorists. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:41 AM |
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You'll show him! (Or us, or whomever you're referring to). |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 12:43 AM |
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The whole Vote for Obama or they will take away Social Security... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:47 AM |
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Much more than SS will be axed and you know it. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:57 AM |
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I don't mean to make terrorist threats - but I'm not SURE |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 01:16 AM |
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I will no longer stand behind a party or a President that doesn't deliver. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:35 PM |
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Ditto |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:42 PM |
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Sincerely and seriously -- where will you go? And, not being |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 03:08 PM |
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Why are we "still here"? Because this is Democratic Underground, not Third Way Underground. |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 05:13 PM |
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But if you're unhappy with the current state of the Democratic |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 07:40 PM |
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You'd rather let the hostages (The entire American populace) die?? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:45 AM |
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I would rather see policies promoted that will help the poor, the middle Class, |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:49 AM |
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And you're going to get that from the GOP? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 01:00 AM |
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I don't know who I will vote for |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 01:06 AM |
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So you'll throw your vote in the trash bin because it has earned it? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 01:14 AM |
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I have no knowledge of Turd blossoms sex life... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 01:18 AM |
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You need to stop thinking in absolutes. They do not exist in reality. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 02:33 AM |
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You need to qut thinking you can read my mind...And quit thinking in absolutes. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:09 PM |
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Big Talk, Little Action |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:33 PM |
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Obama is bringing his administration, his party, and his nation down.. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:40 PM |
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Handing the coutry over to the GOP out of spite is the most disloyal thing I've ever heard. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:48 PM |
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Obama is our representative, and he is disloyal to us by his choices of policies... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 01:16 PM |
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Obama doesn't govern by poll. He has to get things through an actual Congress. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:41 PM |
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Nope. He governs by lobbyists' campaign checks. |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 06:49 PM |
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You are lost. It's a bit sad. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:29 PM |
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"He has to get things through an actual Congress." |
Mr Deltoid |
Aug-20-11 11:14 AM |
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excellent response, Ozymanithrax |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:44 PM |
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Thank you. |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 01:18 PM |
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i threw my vote in the trash bin in 2008 when i voted for obama |
frylock |
Aug-19-11 11:34 AM |
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Aug-19-11 12:34 PM |
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"They" are not dividing "us". |
a simple pattern |
Aug-20-11 09:59 AM |
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and if that doesn't happen soon enough for you, |
pnorman |
Aug-19-11 01:44 AM |
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To look for and support candidates who will develop real liberal policies... |
Ozymanithrax |
Aug-19-11 12:25 PM |
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I really agree, TrainToCry -- and welcome to DU! |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 12:42 AM |
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thanks. what's the point of recs if you can't see who made them? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:48 AM |
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The new DU will show who recs, don't know if it'll show who |
gateley |
Aug-19-11 01:14 AM |
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How is it that we would not lose these things if Obama is re-elected? |
Lasher |
Aug-19-11 12:46 AM |
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So a Repuke would be better? Sotomayor and Kagen weren't good enough for you? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:51 AM |
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Sotomayor wasn't good enough for me, she's a centrist. |
Lasher |
Aug-19-11 07:04 AM |
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As a lawyer, I agree w/you. Obama's picks are centrists. |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 08:50 AM |
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I think you're absolutely correct. |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-21-11 11:55 AM |
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That's food for thought... |
Supersedeas |
Aug-23-11 10:13 AM |
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Thats a load of horse shit. Some of you really do have no clue where the center is at all. |
phleshdef |
Aug-19-11 10:47 AM |
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Sotomayor is considered a political centrist by the American Bar Association |
Lasher |
Aug-19-11 12:06 PM |
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Agreed, but to some people here it's worth it. |
TheWraith |
Aug-19-11 12:50 AM |
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I can't believe that they're too blind to see this. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:53 AM |
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i don't think it's about teaching him a lesson |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 12:53 AM |
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So you lend aid to the GOP? Like it or not, that is what a nonvote is. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 01:02 AM |
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i didn't realize we were playing ball |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 01:19 AM |
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Obama is only comparable to Repugs in the minds of the supremely deluded. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 02:48 AM |
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of course there's a difference |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 03:14 AM |
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You disagree with liberal Supreme Court justices? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:32 AM |
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i don't represent anybody |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 04:46 AM |
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You're right you don't. And when Obama becomes the Democratic Nominee once again, |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:27 PM |
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i always vote |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 04:32 PM |
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obama didn't nominate anyone for the SC that can even remotely be considered progressive |
frylock |
Aug-19-11 11:52 AM |
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One's Principle wins over the welfare of millions? How kewl is that? |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-19-11 01:05 AM |
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You nailed it. |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 01:11 AM |
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He definitely nailed your mindset down, that's for sure. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:09 AM |
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Keep wagging that finger |
Union Scribe |
Aug-19-11 03:23 AM |
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If that were true most of the Obama detractors would be fingerless. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:25 AM |
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He is the President of all of America, hence, he will NEVER be what they want. They're supposed to |
patrice |
Aug-19-11 01:23 AM |
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see i thought |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 01:45 AM |
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You win. He has no values whatsoever. He's a Manchurian AntiChrist. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:11 AM |
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you seem to be arguing with yourself |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 03:16 AM |
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I used to think most Democrats were rational, like me. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:19 AM |
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what was it will rogers said |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 03:28 AM |
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what does that prove? is that some kind of defense of your position? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:34 AM |
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lol no |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 03:51 AM |
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So Obama supports none of your values? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 04:00 AM |
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hahaha |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 04:17 AM |
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I'm not the one gnashing, pal. I'm happy with the job Obama's doing. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:23 PM |
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Now you're really cracking me up |
griffi94 |
Aug-19-11 04:36 PM |
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It absolutely baffles me when people act like he should give equal value |
Union Scribe |
Aug-19-11 03:26 AM |
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Like. |
jwirr |
Aug-19-11 01:02 AM |
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We aren't going to LOSE what He has already GIVEN AWAY |
LaydeeBug |
Aug-19-11 01:09 AM |
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You're still talking about things that haven't happened like they have. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:13 AM |
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I doubt anyone is interested in teaching Obama a lesson. |
frustrated_lefty |
Aug-19-11 01:34 AM |
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Really? That's what it's like? Let me know when you return from the abyss of pure abstracts. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:27 AM |
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Let me tell you something.... |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 12:20 PM |
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Awww, How pure, How righteous. Must feel good. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:30 PM |
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for someone so new |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:49 PM |
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is a post count some kind of indication of post worth around here?? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:51 PM |
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yes, many of them are seasoned and |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:55 PM |
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If I had 10000 posts would you automatically give me respect? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:58 PM |
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Yes - it feels good. Enjoy your day. |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 01:08 PM |
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Ignorance is bliss. Washing your hands like Pilate. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:44 PM |
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To thine own self be true. If |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 09:13 PM |
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You're pretty good at making selfishness sound noble. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:33 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Aug-19-11 01:49 AM |
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To third party base-builders it is, TrainToCry. Hence the oversimplified absolutes and faulty reason |
patrice |
Aug-19-11 01:49 AM |
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There will not be a viable Third Party in the US for the next 20 years or maybe even more. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:17 AM |
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Aren't you doing the same? |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 09:17 PM |
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Suffering builds character |
jberryhill |
Aug-19-11 02:08 AM |
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These people are the definition of selfish. Punish everybody because you're miffed. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 03:21 AM |
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No sale. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-19-11 02:16 AM |
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Aug-19-11 03:24 AM |
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How do we lose the Supreme Court? |
rpannier |
Aug-19-11 03:55 AM |
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look it's the boogeyman! |
midnight armadillo |
Aug-19-11 06:12 AM |
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You can deny it all you want. When the cards fall it's either Obama or them. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:36 PM |
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Karmic debt? |
ladyVet |
Aug-21-11 11:16 AM |
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It will all be Obama's fault, too! |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-19-11 07:33 AM |
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the entire threaten and bully routine is so stale and tired |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-19-11 07:36 AM |
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Kind of like the routine threats of a primary challange against Obama. nt |
JoePhilly |
Aug-19-11 08:49 AM |
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I see I touched a nerve. I must be describing you to a tee, eh? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:38 PM |
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He is a Third Way Democrat. His economic goals are the same as those of the Republicans. |
woo me with science |
Aug-19-11 07:37 AM |
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OP's threat US would "lose respect for our Nation abroad" is particularly specious & vacuous! |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 08:38 AM |
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That is really an excellent observation. |
woo me with science |
Aug-19-11 12:12 PM |
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It irks you that Obama is beloved throughout the World, doesn't it? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:41 PM |
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OMG! You couldn't be more wrong! "The world" is furious at Obama's bungled handling |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:15 PM |
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did you see what happened when Obama actually went to Ireland? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:33 PM |
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That was then. This is now. It took just a year for the disillusionment to hit across the pond. |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 06:51 PM |
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Ahem |
Number23 |
Aug-21-11 12:43 AM |
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You really need to get a more realistic grasp on what people in other |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-21-11 12:06 PM |
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EU Finance Regulator Criticizes Obama Administration on Banker Bonuses |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:36 PM |
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Back in 2010: Confidence in Obama plunges in Europe too |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:41 PM |
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He was. Not now. |
emilyg |
Aug-19-11 09:19 PM |
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Do you even care if you speak the truth anymore? Or is your vendetta too near and dear? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:40 PM |
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My goodness, do you mean to imply that we have met before?. |
woo me with science |
Aug-19-11 01:21 PM |
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your venom for Obama litters this board. do you think it is so hard to see? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:30 PM |
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He is the President of the United States, |
woo me with science |
Aug-19-11 06:23 PM |
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Excellent riposte. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it? |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 06:54 PM |
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Excellent! |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-21-11 12:08 PM |
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Sure it's not because you've "littered this board" before? |
Union Scribe |
Aug-20-11 01:57 AM |
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The truth smells the same no matter what mouth it comes from. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:23 PM |
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sock puppet or returning tombstoner under the radar? |
SwampG8r |
Aug-23-11 10:58 AM |
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Exactly K&R |
Carolina |
Aug-19-11 12:51 PM |
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He's a bit more liberal than Bill Clinton. |
cottonseed |
Aug-19-11 01:54 PM |
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How so? How many wars did Clinton continue/initiate? |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:28 PM |
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You're describing what's happening under Obama. |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-19-11 09:26 AM |
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+1000 |
Hawkowl |
Aug-19-11 10:07 AM |
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Aug-19-11 12:42 PM |
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'if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-19-11 02:55 PM |
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The Healthcare Mandate is what ended the pre-existing condition, |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:37 PM |
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No the two items do not need to be entwined. if we get rid of the mandate but |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-19-11 11:48 PM |
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But in the real world, the issues are entwined. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:26 PM |
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The 2012 race is looking like CA governor race ..a group of misfits |
ilovemydogmore |
Aug-19-11 09:32 AM |
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It is to the trolls on this board and disruptors. There are some with an agenda and others that are |
Pisces |
Aug-19-11 10:38 AM |
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ahhhhhh, fearmongering! I thought it was just the RW that had a lock on this |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-19-11 11:03 AM |
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We have more to fear than just fear itself. You act like the GOP doesn't exist. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:47 PM |
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I understand. You're not here to change anyone's mind - |
Divernan |
Aug-19-11 04:26 PM |
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I'm here to speak the truth. Can you handle it? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:39 PM |
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It was a stupid line in the movie and it's a stupid line here. |
COLGATE4 |
Aug-21-11 12:09 PM |
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There is a difference. I think you can handle the truth. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:27 PM |
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How are SS, Medicare, Healthcare Reform, and the SS |
LWolf |
Aug-19-11 11:18 AM |
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No cuts have been made to any of those programs, despite all the Firebagger gossip. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 12:49 PM |
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Accuracy doesn't fit your framing. |
LWolf |
Aug-20-11 10:23 AM |
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Good question! nt |
cry baby |
Aug-19-11 11:40 AM |
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K&R |
Wait Wut |
Aug-19-11 11:43 AM |
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It's not about teaching a lesson. It's not about Obama. Those who are so |
moksha |
Aug-19-11 03:12 PM |
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Can you post the link to the law that altered SS, Medicare or Medicaid? Thanks. |
TrainToCry |
Aug-19-11 05:45 PM |
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He has signed off on reform. It is in the deficit commission deal. |
moksha |
Aug-19-11 06:27 PM |
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He recently said all it needs are minor adjustments without slashing benefits. |
great white snark |
Aug-19-11 06:45 PM |
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the very carefully constructed talking point |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-19-11 07:21 PM |
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Maybe he said that, but can you show me where that is the policy written |
moksha |
Aug-20-11 08:46 AM |
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So you have no real evidence. Just hearsay? |
TrainToCry |
Aug-21-11 12:34 PM |
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hearsay?its from the wh website... even if they write it down and show you |
SwampG8r |
Aug-23-11 11:03 AM |
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"Mares eat oats, and does eat oats, and I'll be home for Christmas. Signed..." |
Zenlitened |
Aug-19-11 06:51 PM |
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Hello. |
bigwillq |
Aug-19-11 09:14 PM |
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Aug-19-11 09:30 PM |
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Either way, we'll get GOP legislation: |
blkmusclmachine |
Aug-20-11 03:18 AM |
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Aug-20-11 11:34 AM |
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Already happening under a Democratic President |
swilton |
Aug-20-11 12:16 PM |
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Unfortunately, both sides are bought and paid for . . . and not by us. |
Vinca |
Aug-20-11 12:52 PM |
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We don't have the Supreme Court, HCR is a joke and Obama himself offered to trade away |
Exilednight |
Aug-20-11 04:17 PM |
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Real mavericks punch six hippies before lunch! |
Creideiki |
Aug-20-11 11:32 PM |
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I have done nothing to lose any of those things. |
ladyVet |
Aug-21-11 11:34 AM |
#156 |
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