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| 7. How did it work out the last few times we did this? |
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Didn't we lose New York for 8 years last time? This is the intellectual party? Really?
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| -Do you want someone to run against Obama in the 2012 Primary? |
Pryderi |
Dec-19-09 07:49 AM |
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Other |
MilesColtrane |
Dec-19-09 07:51 AM |
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I added undecided. |
Pryderi |
Dec-19-09 07:52 AM |
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I think that there is room on the left for a challenge - perhaps Sharpton |
mdmc |
Dec-19-09 07:53 AM |
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Yes. I remember how well that worked out for Jimmy Carter when Teddy |
Kahuna |
Dec-19-09 07:55 AM |
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sharpton does not have the influence of Teddy |
mdmc |
Dec-19-09 08:08 AM |
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Indeed. I think the brain trust is counting on this: |
Smarmie Doofus |
Dec-19-09 08:14 AM |
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Wrong comparison. Nader is not a Democrat. Sharpton is. |
Kahuna |
Dec-19-09 08:18 AM |
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Interesting. I'm not sure that Kennedy's challenge was a net-...... |
Smarmie Doofus |
Dec-19-09 08:11 AM |
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WRONGO! While Carter prevailed in the challenge, it weakened him |
Kahuna |
Dec-19-09 08:15 AM |
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Carter lost when he did not provide enough helicopters to rescue the hostages in Iran |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-19-09 08:19 AM |
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Absolutely, the hostage situation cost him the election. But it did not |
Kahuna |
Dec-19-09 08:27 AM |
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+1 |
krawhitham |
Dec-19-09 08:59 AM |
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+2 |
timeforpeace |
Dec-21-09 07:36 PM |
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Amen |
angee_is_mad |
Dec-19-09 07:00 PM |
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Yes. |
timeforpeace |
Dec-20-09 05:48 PM |
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Agree nt |
Adelante |
Dec-20-09 05:52 PM |
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+1 |
timeforpeace |
Dec-20-09 08:59 PM |
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It also split the Party and hurt down ballot Dems. It took years |
quiller4 |
Dec-19-09 06:59 PM |
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wake up call |
whattheidonot |
Dec-30-09 12:20 PM |
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thanks for the replies |
mdmc |
Dec-19-09 08:16 AM |
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Well said. |
timeforpeace |
Dec-21-09 06:27 PM |
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please he still owes for his last epic fail. |
Historic NY |
Dec-19-09 08:52 AM |
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Sharpton? |
Ter |
Dec-19-09 12:37 PM |
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Sharpton? That buffoon? nt |
hack89 |
Dec-21-09 09:41 AM |
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where's don't care |
CTLawGuy |
Dec-19-09 07:57 AM |
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Voted undecided because... |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-19-09 08:02 AM |
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How did it work out the last few times we did this? |
BklnDem75 |
Dec-19-09 08:07 AM |
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I voted YES. This administration is just too conservative. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Dec-19-09 08:17 AM |
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Why Trust Anyone? |
iamjoy |
Dec-19-09 08:56 AM |
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This part is so laughaby off the mark as it applies to me.... |
Smarmie Doofus |
Dec-19-09 10:05 AM |
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Agreed! The first big disappointment was the FISA vote, and it's |
Sparky 1 |
Dec-23-09 06:53 AM |
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I agree with this 1000% n/t. |
okieinpain |
Dec-19-09 07:03 PM |
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This is what I want. I want U.S. Americans to grow up. |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 08:39 AM |
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Oh, wow! |
babylonsister |
Dec-19-09 10:25 AM |
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Hi there good person. I am willing to compromise a LITTLE on |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 06:49 PM |
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I DEFINITITELY agree with you |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-19-09 12:34 PM |
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Blue_In_AK, I've loved your politics for a long time. And just tonight |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 06:50 PM |
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Nicely Put, Saltpoint. (n/t) |
Paladin |
Dec-19-09 03:47 PM |
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I loved your rant, Saltpoint! |
CTyankee |
Dec-19-09 03:56 PM |
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Hey there. I am jealous as hell of that trip. I may collapse weeping on |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 06:51 PM |
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Aw hell, you don't want to be with a bunch of art nuts! |
CTyankee |
Dec-19-09 07:16 PM |
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It is heavy. And as for hanging out with a bunch of art nuts, several |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 08:17 PM |
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I'll lift a glass of Chianti at a little trattoria in the Oltrarno in your honor. |
CTyankee |
Dec-20-09 03:14 PM |
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Thank you! That would be splendid. |
saltpoint |
Dec-21-09 09:13 AM |
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I agree with everything except the emmylou harris deal. I don't |
okieinpain |
Dec-19-09 07:04 PM |
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Truth be told, this is all about Emmylou. |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 07:33 PM |
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ok, at least you're happy. that makes me happy. n/t. |
okieinpain |
Dec-19-09 07:40 PM |
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-- -- |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 07:41 PM |
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Lovely post |
treestar |
Dec-19-09 07:26 PM |
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Hey treestar. When they get the damn thing up and running, let's |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 07:34 PM |
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Yeah, I want all those things too... |
Caretha |
Dec-19-09 08:13 PM |
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Some of Hemingway's cats had 6 digits per paw. |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 08:16 PM |
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Hemingway had no idea about cats when it came to TS |
Caretha |
Dec-19-09 08:28 PM |
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No, really. The descendants of his kittycats walk the sidewalks of |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 08:32 PM |
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I believe you |
Caretha |
Dec-19-09 08:34 PM |
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Eliot didn't want to be a St. Louis banker or a London banker. |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 08:41 PM |
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You are getting there |
Caretha |
Dec-19-09 10:00 PM |
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I am not owed your anger. You must have some in order to |
saltpoint |
Dec-20-09 01:56 AM |
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Saltpoint, I could go for that. nt |
Hekate |
Dec-19-09 08:41 PM |
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Hey there Hekate. Great. There's room in the chariot, and they're |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 08:43 PM |
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Ooo, beer. Do you have any Guinness? |
Hekate |
Dec-19-09 08:45 PM |
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Guinness it is. |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 08:48 PM |
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LOVE IT! Bravo! |
Number23 |
Dec-19-09 11:36 PM |
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+100 n/t |
billh58 |
Dec-20-09 09:28 PM |
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NICE, nice post; thank you! n/t |
Inuca |
Dec-22-09 01:03 PM |
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Hey Inuca -- long time no see, and that's been my |
saltpoint |
Dec-23-09 02:27 AM |
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lol, great list. |
Renew Deal |
Dec-30-09 07:32 PM |
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Other: It is Feee Country andy cne challenge him. I will vote for Obama! |
Perky |
Dec-19-09 08:51 AM |
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Too soon to say, |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-19-09 12:30 PM |
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+1 |
timeforpeace |
Dec-21-09 11:36 PM |
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Yes. |
Vidar |
Dec-19-09 12:34 PM |
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Every politician should face a primary opponent. |
bigwillq |
Dec-19-09 12:35 PM |
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Yes -- I don;lt expect an opponent to win but Obama and the DLC need to be made nervous |
Armstead |
Dec-19-09 12:35 PM |
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Too early to decide for me but after this debacle I'm leaning that way... so sad I really liked him |
budkin |
Dec-19-09 12:38 PM |
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No, but my reasons my surprise you. |
Honeycombe8 |
Dec-19-09 12:38 PM |
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Jesus, it's too fucking damn early for that talk. Enough already |
themaguffin |
Dec-19-09 12:41 PM |
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This OP was made by Pryderi, not Jesus. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-19-09 12:44 PM |
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On DU, it's never too early to fly off the handle |
HughMoran |
Dec-19-09 12:44 PM |
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oh please. it's already obvious which way the wind is blowing |
jonnyblitz |
Dec-19-09 06:57 PM |
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absolutely, it is part of our illusion of being a true democracy...why muddy the waters? |
AuntPatsy |
Dec-19-09 12:43 PM |
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Yes. |
LWolf |
Dec-19-09 12:50 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-19-09 05:27 PM |
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Lolz |
PBS Poll-435 |
Dec-19-09 05:28 PM |
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this place has really gone downhill. get used to Obama, he'll be here for 8 more years |
Aramchek |
Dec-19-09 05:37 PM |
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I agree. n/t |
Pryderi |
Dec-19-09 06:50 PM |
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yep +1 |
AVID |
Dec-19-09 06:51 PM |
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+infinity and beyond |
high density |
Dec-19-09 07:05 PM |
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You got that right. This may just become Disgruntled Underground where any good news is dismissed |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-19-09 11:12 PM |
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LOL...you've been here less than 6 months. |
Forkboy |
Dec-20-09 09:58 PM |
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Two of the last three Democratic presidents faced strong primary challenges |
depakid |
Dec-19-09 06:56 PM |
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There is no way he gets my vote in 2012, primary or election. |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-19-09 07:29 PM |
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And allow me |
Baltoman991 |
Dec-19-09 07:35 PM |
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People are forgetting about the courts |
treestar |
Dec-19-09 07:37 PM |
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*YAWN* |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-19-09 08:27 PM |
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One difference though..... |
Baltoman991 |
Dec-19-09 08:33 PM |
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*DOUBLE YAWN* |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-19-09 09:03 PM |
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As expected. |
Baltoman991 |
Dec-19-09 10:56 PM |
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Same shit, different lying politician. |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-21-09 11:03 AM |
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I will never support any SC nominee |
Ter |
Dec-30-09 04:14 PM |
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Democrats have become the new Republicans! |
DutchLiberal |
Dec-20-09 06:05 PM |
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Yes, people should always have choices of who to vote for. |
glen123098 |
Dec-19-09 08:17 PM |
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Got to love DU----even IMPEACH HIM, got some love. Fuckin' hell this site can piss me off. n/t |
vaberella |
Dec-19-09 08:28 PM |
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I plan on |
Baltoman991 |
Dec-19-09 08:37 PM |
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Exactly. n/t |
vaberella |
Dec-19-09 08:41 PM |
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I'm thinking maybe Bill Krystol steals onto the site on weekend |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 09:04 PM |
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Although again, ladies and gentlemen, were Sal Mineo to form a |
saltpoint |
Dec-19-09 08:30 PM |
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You people are nuts. Politically suicidal. nt |
Hekate |
Dec-19-09 08:40 PM |
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+500 |
suzie |
Dec-23-09 11:59 PM |
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I don't care if they run, Obama will still win |
gravity |
Dec-19-09 08:42 PM |
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Whoever would run against Obama in a primary would be vapor by South Carolina |
zulchzulu |
Dec-19-09 09:29 PM |
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Vapor indeed, and likely by midnight in Des Moines when the Iowa |
saltpoint |
Dec-20-09 12:32 PM |
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Fucking disgusting. |
Splinter Cell |
Dec-19-09 11:12 PM |
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This poll makes me sick. |
Lilyeye |
Dec-20-09 02:00 AM |
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The results too. |
timeforpeace |
Dec-22-09 12:36 PM |
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Accountability is good. Entitlement is bad. |
noamnety |
Dec-20-09 12:15 PM |
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I'd like to see a President Dean or President Feingold. |
DutchLiberal |
Dec-20-09 05:50 PM |
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Extremely unlikely |
karynnj |
Dec-30-09 02:31 PM |
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can we have a moratorium on calling progressives teabaggers? If someone really |
yurbud |
Dec-20-09 06:06 PM |
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Yes. Let the best man win. More choices strengthen democracy |
mcablue |
Dec-20-09 06:06 PM |
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Sure idiots. |
liquid diamond |
Dec-20-09 06:25 PM |
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1968 all over again |
BklnDem75 |
Dec-20-09 09:25 PM |
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Nope! Obama all the way! |
LastNaturalist |
Dec-20-09 09:26 PM |
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Wait, can we vote for Batman in the stupid, worthless topic? |
LastNaturalist |
Dec-20-09 09:32 PM |
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No, but come 2011-12 you and others may find that someone steps up, represents and fights |
depakid |
Dec-20-09 09:49 PM |
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President Obama represents my beliefs and values. I don't want anyone else. |
LastNaturalist |
Dec-20-09 09:51 PM |
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Others who differ will- and two of the last three Democratic presidents have had a strong challenger |
depakid |
Dec-20-09 09:56 PM |
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And Carter lost the general election. And Johnson quit, and the general went to Nixon. |
LastNaturalist |
Dec-20-09 09:57 PM |
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Be that as it may- challenges happen when a leader creates a political vacuum |
depakid |
Dec-20-09 10:11 PM |
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Well said. |
timeforpeace |
Dec-22-09 08:34 PM |
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let us know when you have a vote on the matter |
Aramchek |
Dec-21-09 11:37 PM |
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Now here's my problem with BatMan. |
saltpoint |
Dec-21-09 11:40 PM |
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That's because you're obviously a paid poster for Big Marvel. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Dec-30-09 12:01 PM |
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The Freeps come out at night no doubt..... |
uponit7771 |
Dec-21-09 09:29 AM |
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Well, this is interesting. Given the unrecommends on my post |
debbierlus |
Dec-22-09 12:40 PM |
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First time you've seen this? The 51-52/42-43 split has held steady for days. |
timeforpeace |
Dec-22-09 12:50 PM |
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If Obama thinks there is a good chance he might be challenged by a major Dem candidate on his... |
totodeinhere |
Dec-22-09 12:56 PM |
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He'll only do that for THE CAMPAIGN but then turn CORPORATE as soon as he's re-elected. |
ShortnFiery |
Dec-23-09 10:02 AM |
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What's the harm? |
Ken Burch |
Dec-23-09 07:17 AM |
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Absolutely. Let some far-leftist like Kucinich embarrass himself |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-23-09 07:46 AM |
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Or Howard Dean. I'd love some more roarin.' |
LastNaturalist |
Dec-23-09 09:59 AM |
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I hope so. Otherwise I'll have to write-in a democrat. |
ShortnFiery |
Dec-23-09 10:01 AM |
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Principles or nothing |
quimbys |
Dec-23-09 07:02 PM |
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Candidate Obama will be the one running against President Obama |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-23-09 07:09 PM |
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Just who the hell stands a chance against him? |
liquid diamond |
Dec-24-09 01:34 AM |
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I hope the 49% that want a challenger to Obama in 2012 are wrong. n/t |
Pryderi |
Dec-30-09 11:49 AM |
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Well that's a lot better than the 51-52% for challenger that it was for the first week of this poll. |
timeforpeace |
Dec-30-09 04:13 PM |
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I voted no but more accurately it would be |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-30-09 02:37 PM |
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the trolls are measuring their disruptive headway. |
mkultra |
Dec-30-09 02:39 PM |
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Wow, this poll is almost 2 weeks old and still more people want a primary challenger. |
timeforpeace |
Dec-30-09 03:17 PM |
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A primary challenger is not a bad thing, remind him that |
robo50 |
Dec-30-09 03:23 PM |
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That's exactly the problem |
quimbys |
Jan-11-10 06:01 PM |
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"I thought Hillary was going to be like Obama" |
ibegurpard |
Jan-11-10 06:08 PM |
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Here we go. Several votes for no challenger today versus none for primary challenger. Almost tied! |
timeforpeace |
Dec-30-09 04:10 PM |
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Ladies and gentleman, only 13 days into this poll, and finally it's tied up! |
timeforpeace |
Dec-30-09 06:59 PM |
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My views have changed on this matter. When I voted for Obama in the 2008 GE I said |
StevieM |
Dec-30-09 07:28 PM |
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I voted 'No'. Too damned early to be talking about 2012 |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-11-10 06:12 PM |
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You voted twice? |
BklnDem75 |
Jan-11-10 06:15 PM |
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Strange. I may have not voted. It clearly shows my 'No' vote |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-11-10 06:22 PM |
#158 |