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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 10:17 AM
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21. I supported Hillary in the primary but good grief -
everyone should just move on and stop this useless speculation. Its divisive.

Part of the moving on must include that the Obama supporters stop using every opportunity (and non-opportunity because for some its an obsession) to bash both Clintons as cover for their disappointment in Obama. It opens old wounds and its very divisive.

We need every vote to win re-election.
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  -Would Hillary have made a better president? primavera  Aug-06-11 09:48 AM   #0 
  - You should have quit after your first sentence.  CakeGrrl   Aug-06-11 09:50 AM   #1 
  - You never have second thoughts about your past decisions?  primavera   Aug-06-11 09:52 AM   #3 
  - I have a second thoughts but hillery is not one of them..I think  movonne   Aug-06-11 10:12 AM   #16 
  - Her name is Hillary with an "a", not an "e".  Beacool   Aug-07-11 11:50 PM   #121 
     - I Liza w/ a z.  ronnykmarshall   Aug-09-11 05:27 PM   #145 
  - Not about this. I'm not a fan of useless daydreaming on this topic.  CakeGrrl   Aug-06-11 10:42 AM   #33 
     - Well, that was part of my question  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:47 AM   #37 
  - I am in total agreement with Cakegrrl on this one!  Vanje   Aug-06-11 05:35 PM   #83 
  - Yes, so you keep saying over and over  primavera   Aug-06-11 05:57 PM   #92 
     - No. REally  Vanje   Aug-06-11 06:00 PM   #94 
  - Well said. The last thing we need is "Bush lite" as President.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Aug-10-11 12:58 AM   #149 
  - Things Would Be Essentially The Same  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-06-11 09:52 AM   #2 
  - I'm very afraid that you're right  primavera   Aug-06-11 09:55 AM   #5 
     - I Voted For HRC In The Primaries But I'm Glad She Lost  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-06-11 09:58 AM   #8 
  - Dios mio.....Will this sh*t never end?  marmar   Aug-06-11 09:52 AM   #4 
  - +1  GoCubsGo   Aug-06-11 09:56 AM   #6 
  - Nope  chrisa   Aug-06-11 04:40 PM   #79 
  - no, we are fucking STUCK with him  Skittles   Aug-08-11 12:31 AM   #125 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-11 01:28 PM   #138 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-11 06:04 PM   #140 
  - I thought the meme was Vote for Obama because HRC would be  OHdem10   Aug-06-11 09:56 AM   #7 
  - hindsight  Supersedeas   Aug-09-11 01:44 PM   #141 
  - Absolutely not. She is even having trouble with, and getting bored with her present position.  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-06-11 09:59 AM   #9 
  - If You Could Make A Mythical Time Machine To Go Back To The 90s  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-06-11 10:01 AM   #10 
  - You're right. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-06-11 10:02 AM   #11 
     - I Said I Up Thread The Economy Would Suck Regardless Of Who Was In The White House  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-06-11 10:05 AM   #12 
        - I'd say that Raygun was the beginning of the end.  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-06-11 10:12 AM   #17 
        - I Agree With Deng Xiaoping  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-06-11 10:18 AM   #22 
           - I moved from South Florida to North Florida to bring my parents closer to my sister  Sarah Ibarruri   Aug-06-11 10:22 AM   #24 
        - I think historians will look at the 1990's as setting up this mess  Armstead   Aug-06-11 10:17 AM   #20 
           - Incomes For All Economic Groups Had Risen During The Clinton Administration  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-06-11 10:23 AM   #25 
              - Income gaps were widening and....  Armstead   Aug-06-11 10:29 AM   #28 
  - I found better jobs during Clinton Admin  golfguru   Aug-06-11 05:40 PM   #86 
  - She's not having trouble with her current position.  Beacool   Aug-07-11 11:52 PM   #122 
     - Agreed 1000%  Auntie Bush   Aug-09-11 02:00 PM   #143 
  - How is this not a "rehash" of the primaries, which used to be a rule violation?  Tarheel_Dem   Aug-06-11 10:06 AM   #13 
  - You guys are a little touchy, aren't you?  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:16 AM   #19 
     - Take it up with Gallup. Not every progressive inhabits the negative leftosphere.  Tarheel_Dem   Aug-06-11 10:46 AM   #36 
        - Maybe someone should  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:53 AM   #39 
           - "Vocal Minority" who have overreached. Many of us unsubscribed long ago,  Tarheel_Dem   Aug-06-11 11:16 AM   #49 
              - Out of curiosity, where do you draw the line?  primavera   Aug-06-11 11:26 AM   #50 
                 - "Go along to get along"? You'll never hear that from me. But you also  Tarheel_Dem   Aug-06-11 11:54 AM   #54 
                    - Remember the White Rose?  primavera   Aug-06-11 11:59 AM   #56 
                    - "mock"? Is that how you interpreted my statement? To each his own.  Tarheel_Dem   Aug-06-11 12:24 PM   #59 
                       - Actually, to some extent, I do  primavera   Aug-06-11 01:07 PM   #62 
                    - AMEN  shellgame26   Aug-07-11 11:54 AM   #118 
                    - Excellent summary  JNinWB   Aug-10-11 09:50 AM   #156 
  - OFFS.  jefferson_dem   Aug-06-11 10:08 AM   #14 
  - Different, although not necessarily "better".  no_hypocrisy   Aug-06-11 10:09 AM   #15 
  - I think the only difference  susanr516   Aug-06-11 10:58 AM   #41 
  - It's impossible to say.  boxman15   Aug-06-11 10:14 AM   #18 
  - Yeah, you're probably right  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:20 AM   #23 
     - Neither do I.  boxman15   Aug-06-11 10:26 AM   #27 
  - I supported Hillary in the primary but good grief -  DURHAM D   Aug-06-11 10:17 AM   #21 
  - Okay, so when IS it acceptable to express differing viewpoints?  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:33 AM   #29 
     - I don't believe we any longer have a democracy but  DURHAM D   Aug-06-11 10:41 AM   #31 
     - Fair enough  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:44 AM   #34 
        - I will decide as I always have.  DURHAM D   Aug-06-11 11:50 AM   #52 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-07-11 11:55 PM   #123 
        - So, you're comparing...  primavera   Aug-08-11 08:29 AM   #128 
  - Clearly you did this to repeat the capitulating and caving crap  treestar   Aug-06-11 10:26 AM   #26 
  - Ummm... what?  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:39 AM   #30 
  - Hopefully the law does constrain their actions  treestar   Aug-06-11 11:00 AM   #43 
  - Doubtful she would have gone down the 'compromise' track  Dad Infinitum   Aug-06-11 10:41 AM   #32 
     - Doubtful she would have allowed us to default  treestar   Aug-06-11 11:00 AM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-06-11 10:44 AM   #35 
  - Then how do you explain my asking it...  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:48 AM   #38 
     - if the shoe fits  mkultra   Aug-07-11 11:56 PM   #124 
  - Which corporate tool would be better? Who cares - time to toss all their sorry asses overboard...  polichick   Aug-06-11 10:55 AM   #40 
  - Lol! Now there's true eloquence!  primavera   Aug-06-11 10:59 AM   #42 
  - Thank you all for your feedback!  primavera   Aug-06-11 11:00 AM   #44 
  - None of us know  bigwillq   Aug-06-11 11:05 AM   #46 
  - NO!!!  rury   Aug-06-11 11:05 AM   #47 
  - Anyone who answers Yes is a racist, anyone who answers No is a sexist  slackmaster   Aug-06-11 11:06 AM   #48 
  - No, she would have escalated the war in Aghanistan and bombed Libya, Yemen and Pakistan.  rug   Aug-06-11 11:31 AM   #51 
  - NO! n/t  Fire1   Aug-06-11 11:53 AM   #53 
  - They held almost the EXACT SAME positions ... this idea that  JoePhilly   Aug-06-11 11:59 AM   #55 
  - That's true up to a point  primavera   Aug-06-11 12:05 PM   #57 
  - Actually, he's governing almost exactly as he said he would.  JoePhilly   Aug-06-11 12:40 PM   #60 
  - were you at DU during the primaries?  Enrique   Aug-06-11 10:06 PM   #106 
  - We will never know.  LiberalFighter   Aug-06-11 12:09 PM   #58 
  - I wonder if Obama couldn't be a better President if  FrenchieCat   Aug-06-11 01:06 PM   #61 
  - Hard to say  primavera   Aug-06-11 01:09 PM   #63 
  - He was elected to lead  blue_onyx   Aug-06-11 02:09 PM   #67 
  - lol, no.  AngkorWot   Aug-06-11 01:12 PM   #64 
  - +  AtomicKitten   Aug-09-11 06:02 PM   #146 
  - The policies probably would be the same  blue_onyx   Aug-06-11 02:06 PM   #65 
  - May I ask another question?  primavera   Aug-06-11 02:08 PM   #66 
  - I so wish someone had responded to this  primavera   Aug-06-11 06:33 PM   #98 
     - Volatile, yes, but also painful.  Union Scribe   Aug-10-11 01:47 AM   #152 
  - This isn't cool...and you know it. nt  LaydeeBug   Aug-06-11 03:21 PM   #68 
  - You all sure are quick to ascribe sinister motives to me  primavera   Aug-06-11 04:11 PM   #73 
     - it dredges up a very contentious primary where we did not adequately peruse the issues  LaydeeBug   Aug-06-11 09:08 PM   #101 
  - Republicans hate the clintons as much or more  marlakay   Aug-06-11 03:29 PM   #69 
  - damn, why post this divisive crap?  Vattel   Aug-06-11 03:32 PM   #70 
  - Umm, perhaps so that we can address it now...  primavera   Aug-06-11 04:12 PM   #74 
  - yay, todays version of this thread!  dionysus   Aug-06-11 03:33 PM   #71 
  - Okay, I get it  primavera   Aug-06-11 04:15 PM   #75 
  - The main difference is that the DLC would be blaming sexism instead of racism..  saras   Aug-06-11 03:53 PM   #72 
  - Would it be possible for her to do worse?  Balbus   Aug-06-11 04:23 PM   #76 
  - She was DLC - a member of the Koch-whore wing of the Democratic party.  backscatter712   Aug-06-11 04:29 PM   #77 
  - Oh, yeah, like THAT'S gonna have a point!  MrMickeysMom   Aug-06-11 04:37 PM   #78 
  - So no lessons to be learned from the past, okay  primavera   Aug-06-11 05:13 PM   #80 
     - No, there are plenty of lessons to be learned from the past...  MrMickeysMom   Aug-06-11 05:37 PM   #84 
        - Glad there are some things we agree upon  primavera   Aug-06-11 05:55 PM   #91 
  - Would Ronald Reagan have been better as Rick in Casablanca than Bogart?  Spider Jerusalem   Aug-06-11 05:25 PM   #81 
  - +1  Vanje   Aug-06-11 05:41 PM   #87 
  - Does'nt matter  Vanje   Aug-06-11 05:32 PM   #82 
  - Would Joe Biden be a more effective Vice President if he could fly?  Vanje   Aug-06-11 05:37 PM   #85 
  - You're going to have a chance to consider that next year  primavera   Aug-06-11 05:53 PM   #90 
     - Actually  Vanje   Aug-06-11 05:59 PM   #93 
        - Well, since you appear to have no interest...  primavera   Aug-06-11 06:10 PM   #95 
           - Wrong guess  Vanje   Aug-06-11 06:13 PM   #96 
              - Because, incredibly, I was foolish enough to seek constructive input  primavera   Aug-06-11 06:31 PM   #97 
  - You're right. That was pointless.  Phx_Dem   Aug-06-11 05:46 PM   #88 
  - So it would seem  primavera   Aug-06-11 05:49 PM   #89 
  - Hillary wasn't a founding member of the DLC  demhistorian   Aug-06-11 08:35 PM   #99 
  - Quite right  primavera   Aug-06-11 09:48 PM   #103 
  - She couldn't have been - she was not an elected official - but Bill was and she agreed  karynnj   Aug-08-11 01:04 AM   #126 
  - In the least she wouldn't have been condescending to progressives.  Fearless   Aug-06-11 09:02 PM   #100 
  - Maybe but it depends. On HCR she might've done more or dodged it completely.  craigmatic   Aug-06-11 09:40 PM   #102 
  - That's kind of what I've wondered as well  primavera   Aug-06-11 09:57 PM   #105 
     - Really a good president has to do both. Being a good administrator alone isn't enough.  craigmatic   Aug-07-11 01:15 AM   #110 
  - Only difference is she would not have been middle of the road, trying to cross the isle.  joshcryer   Aug-06-11 09:48 PM   #104 
  - Maybe, maybe not  Retrograde   Aug-06-11 11:13 PM   #107 
  - Interesting point  primavera   Aug-07-11 12:18 AM   #109 
  - We'll never know for sure  Cali_Democrat   Aug-06-11 11:16 PM   #108 
  - YES YES YES YES YES  Skittles   Aug-07-11 01:24 AM   #111 
  - Logically no, but I'll say yes  Awsi Dooger   Aug-07-11 01:52 AM   #112 
  - Obama was quite obviously  LWolf   Aug-07-11 08:50 AM   #113 
  - Yeah, it was wishful thinking  primavera   Aug-07-11 10:17 AM   #114 
     - I think you speak for quite a few.  LWolf   Aug-07-11 10:22 AM   #115 
        - Lol! Indeed, learn from my painful example!  primavera   Aug-07-11 10:30 AM   #116 
  - I said, yes, though I supported Obama  Onlooker   Aug-07-11 10:33 AM   #117 
  - Round up the usual suspects. Thanks for the rehash.  Flying Dream Blues   Aug-07-11 06:45 PM   #119 
  - That's cool  primavera   Aug-08-11 08:33 AM   #129 
  - Of course I think so or I wouldn't have supported her.  Beacool   Aug-07-11 11:49 PM   #120 
  - hate this question but  iamthebandfanman   Aug-08-11 01:13 AM   #127 
  - Yeah, it's the slim pickings part that bothers me  primavera   Aug-08-11 08:51 AM   #130 
  - Who cares? We'll never know, and we couldn't go back and  gkhouston   Aug-08-11 10:15 AM   #131 
  - Allow me to rephrase the question  primavera   Aug-08-11 10:52 AM   #133 
     - That's not a rephrasing, that's a separate question, and poorly worded.  gkhouston   Aug-08-11 11:43 AM   #134 
        - I respectfully disagree  primavera   Aug-08-11 12:33 PM   #137 
  - actually, she probably knew what was coming...  Whisp   Aug-08-11 10:51 AM   #132 
  - Why not? It makes quite a bit MORE practical sense  CakeGrrl   Aug-08-11 12:05 PM   #135 
  - They'd probably be about the same. She'd have had the same centrist policies.  Dark   Aug-08-11 12:09 PM   #136 
  - Hillary would have invoked the 14th Amendment on the Republicans.  CTyankee   Aug-08-11 02:11 PM   #139 
  - I think Hillary would have been a great president and I think Obama is a great president (eom)  StevieM   Aug-09-11 01:58 PM   #142 
  - The Teabaggers Would Have Come Hard After Hillary  Yavin4   Aug-09-11 02:02 PM   #144 
  - ...  JustAmused   Aug-09-11 08:44 PM   #147 
  - I don't know if she would have been better but she couldn't have been worse,  Exultant Democracy   Aug-09-11 10:17 PM   #148 
  - This is a sad thread  1stlady   Aug-10-11 01:17 AM   #150 
     - I don't consider any of my progesssive values a cookie and it is very insulting.  Exultant Democracy   Aug-10-11 09:37 AM   #155 
  - I have been wondering the same thing--at least she has balls!  emsimon33   Aug-10-11 01:33 AM   #151 
  - I always preferred Hillary Clinton, but I, of course, voted for Obama.  robcon   Aug-10-11 07:35 AM   #153 
  - Sadly, I think the results would have been the same. n/t  Marrah_G   Aug-10-11 09:28 AM   #154 
 

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