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Sat Aug-06-11 10:16 AM
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| 19. You guys are a little touchy, aren't you? |
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I don't recall ever saying that I spoke for you, although I do find it interesting that you seem to feel comfortable presuming to speak for "83% of us."
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| -Would Hillary have made a better president? |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 09:48 AM |
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You should have quit after your first sentence. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-06-11 09:50 AM |
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You never have second thoughts about your past decisions? |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 09:52 AM |
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I have a second thoughts but hillery is not one of them..I think |
movonne |
Aug-06-11 10:12 AM |
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Her name is Hillary with an "a", not an "e". |
Beacool |
Aug-07-11 11:50 PM |
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I Liza w/ a z. |
ronnykmarshall |
Aug-09-11 05:27 PM |
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Not about this. I'm not a fan of useless daydreaming on this topic. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-06-11 10:42 AM |
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Well, that was part of my question |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:47 AM |
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I am in total agreement with Cakegrrl on this one! |
Vanje |
Aug-06-11 05:35 PM |
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Yes, so you keep saying over and over |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 05:57 PM |
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No. REally |
Vanje |
Aug-06-11 06:00 PM |
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Well said. The last thing we need is "Bush lite" as President. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Aug-10-11 12:58 AM |
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Things Would Be Essentially The Same |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-06-11 09:52 AM |
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I'm very afraid that you're right |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 09:55 AM |
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I Voted For HRC In The Primaries But I'm Glad She Lost |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-06-11 09:58 AM |
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Dios mio.....Will this sh*t never end? |
marmar |
Aug-06-11 09:52 AM |
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+1 |
GoCubsGo |
Aug-06-11 09:56 AM |
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Nope |
chrisa |
Aug-06-11 04:40 PM |
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no, we are fucking STUCK with him |
Skittles |
Aug-08-11 12:31 AM |
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Aug-08-11 01:28 PM |
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Aug-08-11 06:04 PM |
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I thought the meme was Vote for Obama because HRC would be |
OHdem10 |
Aug-06-11 09:56 AM |
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hindsight |
Supersedeas |
Aug-09-11 01:44 PM |
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Absolutely not. She is even having trouble with, and getting bored with her present position. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Aug-06-11 09:59 AM |
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If You Could Make A Mythical Time Machine To Go Back To The 90s |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-06-11 10:01 AM |
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You're right. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Aug-06-11 10:02 AM |
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I Said I Up Thread The Economy Would Suck Regardless Of Who Was In The White House |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-06-11 10:05 AM |
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I'd say that Raygun was the beginning of the end. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Aug-06-11 10:12 AM |
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I Agree With Deng Xiaoping |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-06-11 10:18 AM |
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I moved from South Florida to North Florida to bring my parents closer to my sister |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Aug-06-11 10:22 AM |
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I think historians will look at the 1990's as setting up this mess |
Armstead |
Aug-06-11 10:17 AM |
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Incomes For All Economic Groups Had Risen During The Clinton Administration |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-06-11 10:23 AM |
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Income gaps were widening and.... |
Armstead |
Aug-06-11 10:29 AM |
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I found better jobs during Clinton Admin |
golfguru |
Aug-06-11 05:40 PM |
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She's not having trouble with her current position. |
Beacool |
Aug-07-11 11:52 PM |
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Agreed 1000% |
Auntie Bush |
Aug-09-11 02:00 PM |
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How is this not a "rehash" of the primaries, which used to be a rule violation? |
Tarheel_Dem |
Aug-06-11 10:06 AM |
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You guys are a little touchy, aren't you? |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:16 AM |
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Take it up with Gallup. Not every progressive inhabits the negative leftosphere. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Aug-06-11 10:46 AM |
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Maybe someone should |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:53 AM |
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"Vocal Minority" who have overreached. Many of us unsubscribed long ago, |
Tarheel_Dem |
Aug-06-11 11:16 AM |
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Out of curiosity, where do you draw the line? |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 11:26 AM |
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"Go along to get along"? You'll never hear that from me. But you also |
Tarheel_Dem |
Aug-06-11 11:54 AM |
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Remember the White Rose? |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 11:59 AM |
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"mock"? Is that how you interpreted my statement? To each his own. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Aug-06-11 12:24 PM |
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Actually, to some extent, I do |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 01:07 PM |
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AMEN |
shellgame26 |
Aug-07-11 11:54 AM |
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Excellent summary |
JNinWB |
Aug-10-11 09:50 AM |
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OFFS. |
jefferson_dem |
Aug-06-11 10:08 AM |
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Different, although not necessarily "better". |
no_hypocrisy |
Aug-06-11 10:09 AM |
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I think the only difference |
susanr516 |
Aug-06-11 10:58 AM |
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It's impossible to say. |
boxman15 |
Aug-06-11 10:14 AM |
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Yeah, you're probably right |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:20 AM |
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Neither do I. |
boxman15 |
Aug-06-11 10:26 AM |
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I supported Hillary in the primary but good grief - |
DURHAM D |
Aug-06-11 10:17 AM |
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Okay, so when IS it acceptable to express differing viewpoints? |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:33 AM |
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I don't believe we any longer have a democracy but |
DURHAM D |
Aug-06-11 10:41 AM |
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Fair enough |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:44 AM |
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I will decide as I always have. |
DURHAM D |
Aug-06-11 11:50 AM |
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Aug-07-11 11:55 PM |
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So, you're comparing... |
primavera |
Aug-08-11 08:29 AM |
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Clearly you did this to repeat the capitulating and caving crap |
treestar |
Aug-06-11 10:26 AM |
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Ummm... what? |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:39 AM |
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Hopefully the law does constrain their actions |
treestar |
Aug-06-11 11:00 AM |
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Doubtful she would have gone down the 'compromise' track |
Dad Infinitum |
Aug-06-11 10:41 AM |
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Doubtful she would have allowed us to default |
treestar |
Aug-06-11 11:00 AM |
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Aug-06-11 10:44 AM |
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Then how do you explain my asking it... |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:48 AM |
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if the shoe fits |
mkultra |
Aug-07-11 11:56 PM |
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Which corporate tool would be better? Who cares - time to toss all their sorry asses overboard... |
polichick |
Aug-06-11 10:55 AM |
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Lol! Now there's true eloquence! |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 10:59 AM |
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Thank you all for your feedback! |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 11:00 AM |
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None of us know |
bigwillq |
Aug-06-11 11:05 AM |
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NO!!! |
rury |
Aug-06-11 11:05 AM |
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Anyone who answers Yes is a racist, anyone who answers No is a sexist |
slackmaster |
Aug-06-11 11:06 AM |
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No, she would have escalated the war in Aghanistan and bombed Libya, Yemen and Pakistan. |
rug |
Aug-06-11 11:31 AM |
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NO! n/t |
Fire1 |
Aug-06-11 11:53 AM |
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They held almost the EXACT SAME positions ... this idea that |
JoePhilly |
Aug-06-11 11:59 AM |
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That's true up to a point |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 12:05 PM |
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Actually, he's governing almost exactly as he said he would. |
JoePhilly |
Aug-06-11 12:40 PM |
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were you at DU during the primaries? |
Enrique |
Aug-06-11 10:06 PM |
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We will never know. |
LiberalFighter |
Aug-06-11 12:09 PM |
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I wonder if Obama couldn't be a better President if |
FrenchieCat |
Aug-06-11 01:06 PM |
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Hard to say |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 01:09 PM |
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He was elected to lead |
blue_onyx |
Aug-06-11 02:09 PM |
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lol, no. |
AngkorWot |
Aug-06-11 01:12 PM |
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+ |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-09-11 06:02 PM |
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The policies probably would be the same |
blue_onyx |
Aug-06-11 02:06 PM |
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May I ask another question? |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 02:08 PM |
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I so wish someone had responded to this |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 06:33 PM |
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Volatile, yes, but also painful. |
Union Scribe |
Aug-10-11 01:47 AM |
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This isn't cool...and you know it. nt |
LaydeeBug |
Aug-06-11 03:21 PM |
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You all sure are quick to ascribe sinister motives to me |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 04:11 PM |
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it dredges up a very contentious primary where we did not adequately peruse the issues |
LaydeeBug |
Aug-06-11 09:08 PM |
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Republicans hate the clintons as much or more |
marlakay |
Aug-06-11 03:29 PM |
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damn, why post this divisive crap? |
Vattel |
Aug-06-11 03:32 PM |
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Umm, perhaps so that we can address it now... |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 04:12 PM |
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yay, todays version of this thread! |
dionysus |
Aug-06-11 03:33 PM |
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Okay, I get it |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 04:15 PM |
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The main difference is that the DLC would be blaming sexism instead of racism.. |
saras |
Aug-06-11 03:53 PM |
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Would it be possible for her to do worse? |
Balbus |
Aug-06-11 04:23 PM |
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She was DLC - a member of the Koch-whore wing of the Democratic party. |
backscatter712 |
Aug-06-11 04:29 PM |
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Oh, yeah, like THAT'S gonna have a point! |
MrMickeysMom |
Aug-06-11 04:37 PM |
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So no lessons to be learned from the past, okay |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 05:13 PM |
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No, there are plenty of lessons to be learned from the past... |
MrMickeysMom |
Aug-06-11 05:37 PM |
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Glad there are some things we agree upon |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 05:55 PM |
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Would Ronald Reagan have been better as Rick in Casablanca than Bogart? |
Spider Jerusalem |
Aug-06-11 05:25 PM |
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+1 |
Vanje |
Aug-06-11 05:41 PM |
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Does'nt matter |
Vanje |
Aug-06-11 05:32 PM |
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Would Joe Biden be a more effective Vice President if he could fly? |
Vanje |
Aug-06-11 05:37 PM |
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You're going to have a chance to consider that next year |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 05:53 PM |
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Actually |
Vanje |
Aug-06-11 05:59 PM |
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Well, since you appear to have no interest... |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 06:10 PM |
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Wrong guess |
Vanje |
Aug-06-11 06:13 PM |
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Because, incredibly, I was foolish enough to seek constructive input |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 06:31 PM |
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You're right. That was pointless. |
Phx_Dem |
Aug-06-11 05:46 PM |
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So it would seem |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 05:49 PM |
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Hillary wasn't a founding member of the DLC |
demhistorian |
Aug-06-11 08:35 PM |
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Quite right |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 09:48 PM |
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She couldn't have been - she was not an elected official - but Bill was and she agreed |
karynnj |
Aug-08-11 01:04 AM |
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In the least she wouldn't have been condescending to progressives. |
Fearless |
Aug-06-11 09:02 PM |
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Maybe but it depends. On HCR she might've done more or dodged it completely. |
craigmatic |
Aug-06-11 09:40 PM |
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That's kind of what I've wondered as well |
primavera |
Aug-06-11 09:57 PM |
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Really a good president has to do both. Being a good administrator alone isn't enough. |
craigmatic |
Aug-07-11 01:15 AM |
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Only difference is she would not have been middle of the road, trying to cross the isle. |
joshcryer |
Aug-06-11 09:48 PM |
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Maybe, maybe not |
Retrograde |
Aug-06-11 11:13 PM |
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Interesting point |
primavera |
Aug-07-11 12:18 AM |
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We'll never know for sure |
Cali_Democrat |
Aug-06-11 11:16 PM |
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YES YES YES YES YES |
Skittles |
Aug-07-11 01:24 AM |
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Logically no, but I'll say yes |
Awsi Dooger |
Aug-07-11 01:52 AM |
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Obama was quite obviously |
LWolf |
Aug-07-11 08:50 AM |
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Yeah, it was wishful thinking |
primavera |
Aug-07-11 10:17 AM |
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I think you speak for quite a few. |
LWolf |
Aug-07-11 10:22 AM |
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Lol! Indeed, learn from my painful example! |
primavera |
Aug-07-11 10:30 AM |
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I said, yes, though I supported Obama |
Onlooker |
Aug-07-11 10:33 AM |
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Round up the usual suspects. Thanks for the rehash. |
Flying Dream Blues |
Aug-07-11 06:45 PM |
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That's cool |
primavera |
Aug-08-11 08:33 AM |
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Of course I think so or I wouldn't have supported her. |
Beacool |
Aug-07-11 11:49 PM |
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hate this question but |
iamthebandfanman |
Aug-08-11 01:13 AM |
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Yeah, it's the slim pickings part that bothers me |
primavera |
Aug-08-11 08:51 AM |
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Who cares? We'll never know, and we couldn't go back and |
gkhouston |
Aug-08-11 10:15 AM |
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Allow me to rephrase the question |
primavera |
Aug-08-11 10:52 AM |
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That's not a rephrasing, that's a separate question, and poorly worded. |
gkhouston |
Aug-08-11 11:43 AM |
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I respectfully disagree |
primavera |
Aug-08-11 12:33 PM |
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actually, she probably knew what was coming... |
Whisp |
Aug-08-11 10:51 AM |
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Why not? It makes quite a bit MORE practical sense |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-08-11 12:05 PM |
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They'd probably be about the same. She'd have had the same centrist policies. |
Dark |
Aug-08-11 12:09 PM |
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Hillary would have invoked the 14th Amendment on the Republicans. |
CTyankee |
Aug-08-11 02:11 PM |
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I think Hillary would have been a great president and I think Obama is a great president (eom) |
StevieM |
Aug-09-11 01:58 PM |
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The Teabaggers Would Have Come Hard After Hillary |
Yavin4 |
Aug-09-11 02:02 PM |
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... |
JustAmused |
Aug-09-11 08:44 PM |
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I don't know if she would have been better but she couldn't have been worse, |
Exultant Democracy |
Aug-09-11 10:17 PM |
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This is a sad thread |
1stlady |
Aug-10-11 01:17 AM |
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I don't consider any of my progesssive values a cookie and it is very insulting. |
Exultant Democracy |
Aug-10-11 09:37 AM |
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I have been wondering the same thing--at least she has balls! |
emsimon33 |
Aug-10-11 01:33 AM |
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I always preferred Hillary Clinton, but I, of course, voted for Obama. |
robcon |
Aug-10-11 07:35 AM |
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Sadly, I think the results would have been the same. n/t |
Marrah_G |
Aug-10-11 09:28 AM |
#154 |