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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #50
52. And they didn't like the New Deal when he proposed it
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 08:13 AM by jeff47
As we just demonstrated 2009-2010, having a majority doesn't mean passing all the bills you want.
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  -Do Maher, Krugman, and Co. understand how our government works? I'm really not sure. RBInMaine  Aug-05-11 04:53 AM   #0 
  - So let me get this straight  Voltaire   Aug-05-11 05:01 AM   #1 
  - Are you hearing yourself? First, hyperbole abounds. Next, you also need the civics class. Please  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 05:05 AM   #2 
  - Have you ever actually governed anything? If not, I can understand why you don't get it.  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 05:06 AM   #3 
     - I have forgotten more Civics than most Americans will ever know  Voltaire   Aug-05-11 07:53 AM   #45 
     - Yes, I have and much more effectively than this president.  joeprogressive   Aug-05-11 08:27 AM   #56 
     - That is arrogant to the core  treestar   Aug-05-11 09:01 AM   #66 
     - Do you have that response pre-posted on your clipboard, RBinMaine?  woo me with science   Aug-05-11 08:32 AM   #58 
        - Ouch!  MissDeeds   Aug-05-11 08:56 AM   #62 
        - Thank you so much. That was great.  mochajava666   Aug-05-11 10:24 AM   #77 
        - Here's someone else putting it succinctly if it's variety you crave:  CakeGrrl   Aug-05-11 02:06 PM   #81 
  - Those with a media pulpit do the country a great disservice by being ignorant about this  CakeGrrl   Aug-05-11 05:12 AM   #4 
  - In the first two years, the House was pretty solid. The problem, as you say, was the Senate. Here's  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 05:19 AM   #5 
  - O.K. simple question...  vi5   Aug-05-11 05:57 AM   #16 
  - But why should they do that if  verges   Aug-05-11 09:29 AM   #68 
  - And yet Obama supported some of these same Blue Dog dems  muffin1   Aug-05-11 10:01 AM   #76 
  - Exactly. It's lazy thinking.  treestar   Aug-05-11 08:55 AM   #61 
  - Civil Rights wouldn't pass, either. Except that they did.  jobycom   Aug-05-11 05:19 AM   #6 
  - Krugman continues to advocate more stimulus, a hopeless idea with this Congress. Also,  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 05:31 AM   #8 
  - Well, maybe you could come up with a list of things that we are supposed to care about  PVnRT   Aug-05-11 07:03 AM   #36 
  - So by this logic, Krugman should be advocating policies that would have no affect  MNBrewer   Aug-05-11 08:52 AM   #59 
  - I don't think getting louder will move this TeaBag House. Not that Obama and Dems shouldn't get  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 05:39 AM   #10 
  - I'm glad you say this  BeyondGeography   Aug-05-11 06:03 AM   #19 
  - Civil rights legislation passed because people were marching in the streets and forcing the courts  Empowerer   Aug-05-11 07:13 AM   #37 
  - So just because it won't pass...  vi5   Aug-05-11 05:20 AM   #7 
  - What solutions, specifically, do you think are not being advocated enough? List them please.  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 05:35 AM   #9 
     - Wow  trumad   Aug-05-11 05:42 AM   #11 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-11 05:47 AM   #14 
        - your fucking post reeks with how brlliant you think you are  trumad   Aug-05-11 06:33 AM   #27 
        - Plenty of them do, as they talk the same way  treestar   Aug-05-11 08:57 AM   #63 
        - +1  woo me with science   Aug-05-11 09:34 AM   #69 
        - Yeah. You did. In the OP.  verges   Aug-05-11 09:40 AM   #70 
     - Jobs programs, Infrastructure spending, extending unemployment...  vi5   Aug-05-11 05:47 AM   #15 
        - Actually, TWO stimulus bills have already been passed. The first, and then another to  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 05:59 AM   #17 
        - O.K. so then what is the problem?  vi5   Aug-05-11 06:52 AM   #32 
           - Because "fight harder" doesn't mean anything. This isn't a tug of war or boxing match.  Recursion   Aug-05-11 08:11 AM   #51 
              - And if Sanders is such a hero  treestar   Aug-05-11 09:00 AM   #65 
        - Exactly. Dems need a strong narrative to present to the people, over and over  Nay   Aug-05-11 06:03 AM   #18 
        - We can all do that  treestar   Aug-05-11 08:59 AM   #64 
  - Do you understand how the govt REALLY works?  baldguy   Aug-05-11 05:46 AM   #12 
  - He started with $1.2 TRILLION in stimulus. Do you really think he'd have gotten more? And, this  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 06:06 AM   #21 
  - You're buying into the Teahadist's propaganda.  baldguy   Aug-05-11 06:39 AM   #29 
     - Oh HOGSHIT. You are living in fucking fantasy land if you think ANYTHING Obama says will get Tea-  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 09:58 AM   #75 
        - Have you understood ANY of the responses to your OP?  baldguy   Aug-05-11 05:58 PM   #85 
  - Ding Ding! We have a winner!  Stuckinthebush   Aug-05-11 08:29 AM   #57 
  - I understand, but it's just intensely frustrating to take stock of the situation we're in  RandomKoolzip   Aug-05-11 05:46 AM   #13 
  - That's a myth about GWB  Recursion   Aug-05-11 07:18 AM   #39 
  - Obama should have changed his residency to Maine  dsc   Aug-05-11 06:05 AM   #20 
  - Well, he visited Maine last summer and had a wonderful time. :-) But on your point, a larger  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 06:13 AM   #23 
     - He needed those two votes to pass it  dsc   Aug-05-11 06:20 AM   #26 
  - Obama told the dems in Congress to cut a deal on the stimulus  Enrique   Aug-05-11 06:11 AM   #22 
  - Well, let's not do too much second guessing here as to who said what. But yes, you cut a deal to  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 06:15 AM   #24 
     - Reid wanted to fight for more  Enrique   Aug-05-11 06:18 AM   #25 
  - It's quite clear that our government DOES NOT work  ibegurpard   Aug-05-11 06:35 AM   #28 
  - Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP  MannyGoldstein   Aug-05-11 06:41 AM   #30 
  - Keep selling that lie  BklnDem75   Aug-05-11 07:54 AM   #46 
  - +1 You are EXACTLY right. And taking all the emotion out..Obama  Laura PourMeADrink   Aug-05-11 06:47 AM   #31 
  - he had the 14th amendment as leverage  Enrique   Aug-05-11 07:00 AM   #33 
     - Yeah, another impeachment is not what we need right now  Recursion   Aug-05-11 07:22 AM   #41 
     - there's no basis whatsoever for that fear  Enrique   Aug-05-11 07:51 AM   #43 
     - not true "leverage"....option yes. Leverage is when you have control  Laura PourMeADrink   Aug-05-11 01:49 PM   #80 
  - Fuck's sake  PVnRT   Aug-05-11 07:00 AM   #34 
  - "regardless of the possibility of it happening"  Recursion   Aug-05-11 07:21 AM   #40 
  - Obama keeps trying, he has been very consistent on  wolfgirl   Aug-05-11 07:00 AM   #35 
  - Well done . . .  Empowerer   Aug-05-11 07:15 AM   #38 
  - 4 words Obama has never spoken---- Up Or Down Vote!  boston bean   Aug-05-11 07:31 AM   #42 
  - So he says it . . . then what? n/t  Empowerer   Aug-05-11 08:01 AM   #48 
  - *facepalm*  Recursion   Aug-05-11 08:09 AM   #49 
  - You are 100% wrong.  jeff47   Aug-05-11 07:51 AM   #44 
  - FDR had Congressional majorities 3 times the size of Obama's (nt)  Recursion   Aug-05-11 08:10 AM   #50 
     - And they didn't like the New Deal when he proposed it  jeff47   Aug-05-11 08:13 AM   #52 
        - It had broad bipartisan support  Recursion   Aug-05-11 08:18 AM   #53 
           - In the end it did.  jeff47   Aug-05-11 08:19 AM   #54 
  - Krugman has been saying what NEEDS to be done for the last three years.  madinmaryland   Aug-05-11 08:01 AM   #47 
  - Fine, but it's academic only. At some point we must focus on what can PASS.  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 09:51 AM   #73 
     - If we focused on what can PASS, then NOTHING will PASS. Oh wait...  madinmaryland   Aug-05-11 02:21 PM   #82 
  - Either they don't or they're just trying to make money. Nt  DevonRex   Aug-05-11 08:21 AM   #55 
  - They just talk out of their asses  treestar   Aug-05-11 08:53 AM   #60 
  - It would have been nice had they attacked the supposed traits of Bush all those years  flamingdem   Aug-05-11 09:49 AM   #72 
  - Just because something can't pass, doesn't mean  verges   Aug-05-11 09:24 AM   #67 
  - No, a bill WAS written to extend ONLY the middle class cuts, and it FAILED in the Senate.  RBInMaine   Aug-05-11 09:52 AM   #74 
  - The worst is Maher who as "just a comedian" gets a chance to trash Obama w/o repercussions  flamingdem   Aug-05-11 09:46 AM   #71 
  - Look up the word "haggle"  Stargleamer   Aug-05-11 10:50 AM   #78 
  - So let's see ... when we had the majorities in both houses plus the WH, we couldn't do antything  Bake   Aug-05-11 01:25 PM   #79 
  - The short answer? NO!! Add Frank Rich, Jon Stewart, Jane Hampsher, Cenk Unger  Liberal_Stalwart71   Aug-05-11 02:43 PM   #83 
  - for the 1,000th time, Krugman is not a politician, he  themaguffin   Aug-05-11 02:52 PM   #84 
 

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