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| -I think Obama may have just flim-flammed the Republicans; |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 04:39 PM |
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if anyone is getting flim-flammed, it is WE THE PEOPLE |
Skittles |
Aug-03-11 04:39 PM |
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Aug-03-11 04:42 PM |
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Aug-03-11 04:56 PM |
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During Basic Training another boot told me that our DI, although an asshole, was always behind us. |
11 Bravo |
Aug-03-11 06:28 PM |
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I know the feeling. |
texanwitch |
Aug-03-11 05:01 PM |
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Try Preparation-H instead of.... |
MzShantal |
Aug-03-11 06:19 PM |
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show me where this star chamber is in the constitution and I won't |
roguevalley |
Aug-03-11 08:58 PM |
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That's your definition of "flim-flamming the Republicans?" |
villager |
Aug-03-11 04:40 PM |
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is that what the kids are calling it these days? |
babsbunny |
Aug-03-11 04:46 PM |
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That's why the TRIGGERS favor the Dems. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-03-11 04:47 PM |
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in other words, a majority of 7 can vote for whatever they want and head off those oh-so-progressive |
villager |
Aug-03-11 04:53 PM |
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Yes, hedge, I think you're right. |
elleng |
Aug-03-11 04:42 PM |
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k and r |
proud patriot |
Aug-03-11 04:42 PM |
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Sharpton was calling it "rope a dope" |
proud patriot |
Aug-03-11 04:43 PM |
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Based on this OP, I'm not clear who's the "dope" in this scenario |
Cronus Protagonist |
Aug-03-11 04:49 PM |
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You got it. It's an end-around the obstructionist GOP and hits them where THEY live |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-03-11 04:43 PM |
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um, doesn't that work both ways? |
woolldog |
Aug-03-11 04:43 PM |
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Got to admit, if I were putting money on someone to cave it would be on a Democrat |
elocs |
Aug-03-11 04:53 PM |
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But where is the pressure for a Democrat to cave? A real Democrat |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 05:10 PM |
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We the people were flim-flammed in November 2008! |
Citizen Worker |
Aug-03-11 04:43 PM |
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No, no, no... |
MzShantal |
Aug-03-11 06:27 PM |
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One thing I like about this deal is that this may be our only chance to begin cutting defense budget |
DCBob |
Aug-03-11 04:44 PM |
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Why do rightwingers deserve 50% of the seats at the table? |
C_U_L8R |
Aug-03-11 04:45 PM |
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The electoral college isn't fair either. nt |
valerief |
Aug-03-11 04:46 PM |
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They have a lot more than 50% of the House |
Recursion |
Aug-03-11 04:46 PM |
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They've been in control of the Senate for decades already. |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 04:48 PM |
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Because you can't make them magically disappear from Congress. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-03-11 04:52 PM |
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I'm not in congress but I vote |
C_U_L8R |
Aug-03-11 05:54 PM |
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should at least have one voting represenative from the WH.. |
DCBob |
Aug-03-11 04:55 PM |
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Basically it's an upfront admission that we'll probably lose the senate next year. |
craigmatic |
Aug-03-11 05:20 PM |
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Reid will put in DINOs and they will capitulate to the Republican demands. |
valerief |
Aug-03-11 04:46 PM |
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That's why we have to pressure Reid and we have to start now. |
DevonRex |
Aug-03-11 04:50 PM |
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Aug-03-11 07:52 PM |
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any revenue increases, go to the regular congress and senate for approval |
bahrbearian |
Aug-03-11 04:46 PM |
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The stupidity burns! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Aug-03-11 04:46 PM |
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DU is currently 0 for 4 in predicting entitlement cuts |
Recursion |
Aug-03-11 04:47 PM |
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So, the problem with the deal is that everyone will renege on the deal. |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 04:55 PM |
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Social Security cuts are exempt from the trigger |
Samantha |
Aug-03-11 04:56 PM |
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Not to call people out, but do you honestly think Harry Reid |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 04:47 PM |
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You'd think the people who were lauding Reid and Pelosi for protecting Medicare agains |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-03-11 04:50 PM |
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Shh. :) |
DevonRex |
Aug-03-11 04:57 PM |
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Excellent idea - keep the pressure on Congress to make GOOD selections. |
CakeGrrl |
Aug-03-11 04:59 PM |
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We need to pressure Reid so he doesn't let Baucus anywhere near this committee. |
DevonRex |
Aug-03-11 04:52 PM |
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Now that's an excellent suggestion! |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 04:55 PM |
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Why thank you! Let's do something positive together. |
DevonRex |
Aug-03-11 04:59 PM |
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+1000! n/t |
Kind of Blue |
Aug-04-11 10:30 AM |
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What are the odds that there will be no DINO's? |
Big Blue Marble |
Aug-03-11 04:47 PM |
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Lieberman is available for that position |
Cronus Protagonist |
Aug-03-11 04:50 PM |
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These are just a few that worry me |
chill_wind |
Aug-03-11 05:05 PM |
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Reid's not on that list. |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 05:06 PM |
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He's going to pick people that will be |
chill_wind |
Aug-03-11 05:44 PM |
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McConnell and Boehner have promised their 6 members will |
OHdem10 |
Aug-03-11 05:01 PM |
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If the committee locks, we cut defense spending big time while |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 05:04 PM |
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And the Republicans have conceded as much |
DFLforever |
Aug-03-11 05:02 PM |
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It only requires a simple majority. AND both houses still have to |
johnaries |
Aug-03-11 05:02 PM |
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The filibuster is a major weapon used to force Deomocrats to give concessions. |
hedgehog |
Aug-03-11 05:11 PM |
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The committee is a sham and we don't have any real progressives who'll get appointed to that |
craigmatic |
Aug-03-11 05:18 PM |
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Aug-03-11 05:24 PM |
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I agree -- I think Obama has played some incredible chess! |
Emillereid |
Aug-03-11 05:50 PM |
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The defense industry is shitting itself. |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-04-11 09:05 AM |
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You have that ass backwards. With 6 Repukes, they only need 1 Dem vote |
eridani |
Aug-03-11 06:54 PM |
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"if the Democrats on the committee are not DINOs...." |
bvar22 |
Aug-03-11 07:11 PM |
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But the thing is that those Defense Department cuts will not really be mandatory if |
totodeinhere |
Aug-03-11 08:07 PM |
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All discretionary spending cuts are ultimately optional |
Recursion |
Aug-04-11 08:30 AM |
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More 11-Dimensional Rope-A-Dope Bi-Partisan Chess. |
blkmusclmachine |
Aug-03-11 09:10 PM |
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No one is suggesting a 50% cut in defense spending so the OP is in error. |
former9thward |
Aug-03-11 09:14 PM |
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If you read the papers carefully, you'll see that a lot of people |
hedgehog |
Aug-04-11 09:57 AM |
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Sorry but people have been going to jail for medicare fraud for as long as the program exited. |
former9thward |
Aug-04-11 11:02 AM |
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Fucking silliness. A trillion and a half dollars cut from discretionary spending is suicidal |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-03-11 09:18 PM |
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Look. I think I see a wisp of smoke. Let's grasp it. |
Jakes Progress |
Aug-03-11 09:23 PM |
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BERNIE SANDERS & AL FRANKEN needs to be oon that panel..nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Aug-03-11 09:57 PM |
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LOL....the GOP only wanted two things. Spending decreases and no tax increases..... |
Logical |
Aug-04-11 10:11 AM |
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Someone's been flim-flammed alright, but it ain't the Republicans! |
polichick |
Aug-04-11 10:15 AM |
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