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Mon Jul-18-11 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 74. But he has a "moribund campaign" |
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didn't you know that? Good question, by the way  . |
| -Who out there sees the BENEFIT to Democrats of a serious progressive presidential primary challenge? |
cloudythescribbler |
Jul-17-11 05:41 PM |
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Sitting Presidents who are primary challenged...are weakened. |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Jul-17-11 05:43 PM |
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True. Sitting Presidents are weakened by a primary chalenge... but... |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-17-11 06:17 PM |
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You need to look beyond your own circle |
karynnj |
Jul-18-11 07:17 AM |
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Pathetically week sitting presidents are primaried |
Demeter |
Jul-17-11 08:10 PM |
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LBJ was weak? Hmmm... |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-17-11 09:23 PM |
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You honestly believe that LBJ was primary challenged? |
ClassWarrior |
Jul-17-11 11:27 PM |
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Nah... |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-17-11 11:42 PM |
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ROFLMAO... |
ClassWarrior |
Jul-17-11 11:53 PM |
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LOL is right... |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-17-11 11:57 PM |
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You think LBJ lost to Nixon because of a primary challenge, and I'M rewriting history?? |
ClassWarrior |
Jul-18-11 12:15 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-18-11 06:08 AM |
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Please link where I said that |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-18-11 12:07 PM |
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Everyone can see where you said that, above. |
ClassWarrior |
Jul-18-11 01:09 PM |
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Then you should have no trouble pointing it out |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-18-11 03:12 PM |
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I'll have no trouble pointing it out REPEATEDLY. |
ClassWarrior |
Jul-18-11 05:23 PM |
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Words you apparently can't point out |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-18-11 07:25 PM |
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Sitting Presidents who are weak are challenged in the Primaries. (NT) |
Tesha |
Jul-17-11 08:20 PM |
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russforpres.com |
Ed Needham |
Jul-17-11 08:29 PM |
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I believe Feingold long ago ruled that out |
karynnj |
Jul-18-11 07:22 AM |
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Deleted post |
PragmaticLiberal |
Jul-18-11 11:45 AM |
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Absolutely! And while we are at it |
Inuca |
Jul-18-11 02:23 PM |
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Troll... |
tallahasseedem |
Jul-19-11 03:05 PM |
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Wrong. Sitting Presidents who are weak... are primary challenged. |
ClassWarrior |
Jul-17-11 11:26 PM |
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Unless the challenger becomes the VP .nt |
Hawkowl |
Jul-17-11 11:57 PM |
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Sitting Presidents who piss on Democratic principles and |
Leontius |
Jul-19-11 02:51 PM |
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Weak presidents are challenged, no? |
frustrated_lefty |
Jul-19-11 06:32 PM |
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I highly doubt that |
bigwillq |
Jul-17-11 05:45 PM |
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No reasonable Dem/Progressive, imo. |
elleng |
Jul-17-11 05:45 PM |
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If the Democratic Party wants to stay alive... |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-17-11 05:46 PM |
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This is what suicide looks like. |
nevergiveup |
Jul-17-11 05:53 PM |
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We have that anyway.... and everyday the media dumps more on our doorstep.. |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-17-11 06:01 PM |
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No president can deliver everything to everyone. Obama is smart |
kiranon |
Jul-18-11 11:36 AM |
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"the arc of history bends slowly.... |
Inuca |
Jul-18-11 02:26 PM |
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Agree. n/t |
kiranon |
Jul-18-11 11:32 AM |
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+1,000,000,000 |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-18-11 01:36 PM |
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Dennis Kucinich!!! |
Fire1 |
Jul-17-11 05:49 PM |
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"Moribund" campaign? Tell that to his 200,000+ new donors. |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-17-11 05:51 PM |
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260,000+ new voters. And I agree with the rest of your post. |
jenmito |
Jul-17-11 08:25 PM |
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easily 260,000+ |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-18-11 01:32 AM |
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Jimmy Carter |
MiniMe |
Jul-17-11 05:57 PM |
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These are different times.. if you dont believe me.. get back to me on Aug 3rd... |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-17-11 06:08 PM |
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OK.... 6 wars and invading Iran... |
Inuca |
Jul-18-11 02:28 PM |
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I've never bough into the "Ted Kennedy ruined Jimmy Carter's chances" |
Maccagirl |
Jul-17-11 06:23 PM |
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And, I hate to say, he was a lousy speaker |
bhikkhu |
Jul-18-11 10:11 AM |
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Yeah, that Ted... what a bastard. |
21st Century FDR |
Jul-17-11 07:54 PM |
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Wooops. |
boppers |
Jul-18-11 12:49 AM |
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Since there's no serious Repub challenger, we have a lot of slack |
saras |
Jul-17-11 06:15 PM |
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The idea that there's "no serious Repub challenger" is just silly. |
former9thward |
Jul-17-11 06:58 PM |
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Generic is not a real person |
KingFlorez |
Jul-17-11 07:14 PM |
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Jul-17-11 07:27 PM |
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Like they united around McCain? |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-17-11 09:27 PM |
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2010 was not that long ago either. |
former9thward |
Jul-18-11 10:30 AM |
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Was there a general election in 2010? |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-18-11 10:40 AM |
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General elections are held every two years in this country. |
former9thward |
Jul-18-11 12:03 PM |
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Considering we're talking about Obama... |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-18-11 12:13 PM |
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If you want to ignore 2010 just because Obama was not on the ballot so be it. |
former9thward |
Jul-18-11 01:25 PM |
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As opposed to your doom and gloom... |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-18-11 03:18 PM |
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I know a lot about politics, thank you very much |
KingFlorez |
Jul-17-11 10:55 PM |
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Then I guess we can just sit back and watch. Right? |
former9thward |
Jul-18-11 10:31 AM |
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My point is, Republican don't have an easy win |
KingFlorez |
Jul-18-11 02:32 PM |
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I am not assuming anything. The difference between you and me. |
former9thward |
Jul-18-11 02:43 PM |
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Yeah, sure |
KingFlorez |
Jul-18-11 08:54 PM |
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bringing some issues out into the light might be the only benefit. |
elana i am |
Jul-17-11 06:28 PM |
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Thank You, elana i am! |
Paka |
Jul-17-11 11:59 PM |
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Obama is the best we can hope for? |
Skittles |
Jul-18-11 04:40 AM |
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+1000 |
MissDeeds |
Jul-18-11 09:31 AM |
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Very well stated. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jul-18-11 11:44 AM |
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There are no credible challengers. Only kooks. nt |
tritsofme |
Jul-17-11 06:38 PM |
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The ones who see a benefit (totally speculated on their part with not proof to back them up) |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-17-11 06:42 PM |
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Jul-17-11 06:54 PM |
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WOW ... a 2nd "primary Obama" thread on DU in the same day!!!! |
JoePhilly |
Jul-17-11 08:04 PM |
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russforpres.com |
Ed Needham |
Jul-17-11 08:22 PM |
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Nine whole posts, and you're pushing a primary challenger? Hmmmmm.... |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jul-18-11 11:51 AM |
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NOPE!! Stop your hate mongering! Flamebait!! n/t |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Jul-17-11 09:10 PM |
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no benefit , no loss |
mitchtv |
Jul-17-11 11:24 PM |
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Answering the question in the headline: |
July16th-20th |
Jul-18-11 06:37 AM |
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No. Has it ever been a benefit before? |
Jennicut |
Jul-18-11 08:52 AM |
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It Aint Gonna Happen. Obama Is Not Going to be Primaried. |
Yavin4 |
Jul-18-11 09:03 AM |
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I think it is the only way to save the Party. |
BlueIris |
Jul-18-11 09:04 AM |
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The Party doesn't need you to save it. |
Palmer Eldritch |
Jul-18-11 11:38 AM |
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Thank You! |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jul-18-11 11:52 AM |
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Agree. nt |
woo me with science |
Jul-19-11 09:54 AM |
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I don't see it... |
kjackson227 |
Jul-18-11 10:07 AM |
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No, thanks. We'll just stick with the best President in the past 70 years. |
Palmer Eldritch |
Jul-18-11 11:36 AM |
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Ask Ari Melber of The Nation if that's a good idea. There's a reason no one has stepped forward! |
Tarheel_Dem |
Jul-18-11 11:57 AM |
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LOL, today's Primary Obama!!1!! thread.... |
dionysus |
Jul-18-11 12:11 PM |
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Idiotic! And "moribund campaign"?!?!?! |
Inuca |
Jul-18-11 01:13 PM |
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The most popular Democratic President since Kennedy and you want to primary him? |
thelordofhell |
Jul-18-11 01:27 PM |
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But he has a "moribund campaign" |
Inuca |
Jul-18-11 01:31 PM |
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What we really want is for him to stand up for Dem principals like Medicare for All, Ending the wars |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-18-11 01:42 PM |
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And the only way to make sure of retaining SS, Medicare, Medicaid...etc.. |
Cal33 |
Jul-18-11 02:09 PM |
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His current strategy of debating within the radical rights narrative, and then |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-18-11 08:37 PM |
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Then please start a thread with that |
thelordofhell |
Jul-18-11 04:43 PM |
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Let's face it, Obama is on a trajectory to lose in 2012. "Given the choice between a Republican and |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-18-11 01:35 PM |
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HST was correct. Neocons and Tea Partyers are not Republicans at all. The |
Cal33 |
Jul-18-11 02:01 PM |
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Let's not face it |
Inuca |
Jul-18-11 02:19 PM |
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But it's not going to happen so its a mute point. |
WI_DEM |
Jul-18-11 02:01 PM |
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It would not help anything. |
ccharles000 |
Jul-18-11 02:30 PM |
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Primary challenges have proven nothing but harmful to sitting Presidents in the past, |
Arkana |
Jul-18-11 06:05 PM |
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I sure do, but the New Dems fear a primary challenge, especially by a Progressive, |
NorthCarolina |
Jul-18-11 07:41 PM |
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The general election. |
nemo137 |
Jul-18-11 08:02 PM |
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I think you're wrong on both counts |
lunatica |
Jul-19-11 06:42 AM |
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It's a benefit only if by "benefit" you mean electing a Republican president in 2012. |
robcon |
Jul-19-11 07:42 AM |
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history says you're wrong. |
mkultra |
Jul-19-11 11:38 AM |
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Nope. None whatsoever. |
Phx_Dem |
Jul-19-11 01:31 PM |
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No. n/t |
stevenleser |
Jul-19-11 02:25 PM |
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Not this shit again. |
tallahasseedem |
Jul-19-11 03:04 PM |
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I do. This president has been far to cozy with Republicans |
Fearless |
Jul-19-11 03:18 PM |
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Today, I am 100% behind a primary challenge. |
Autumn |
Jul-19-11 03:21 PM |
#108 |
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