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Ed Needham Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 08:22 PM
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25. russforpres.com
The site has a ton of the current argument on why the party/country needs a primary challenger and why Russ is the best bet.
Just signed up to volunteer.
We need a Democrat in the White House.
We need to get off our butts and do something.
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  -Who out there sees the BENEFIT to Democrats of a serious progressive presidential primary challenge? cloudythescribbler  Jul-17-11 05:41 PM   #0 
  - Sitting Presidents who are primary challenged...are weakened.  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-17-11 05:43 PM   #1 
  - True. Sitting Presidents are weakened by a primary chalenge... but...  lib2DaBone   Jul-17-11 06:17 PM   #12 
  - You need to look beyond your own circle  karynnj   Jul-18-11 07:17 AM   #46 
  - Pathetically week sitting presidents are primaried  Demeter   Jul-17-11 08:10 PM   #23 
  - LBJ was weak? Hmmm...  BklnDem75   Jul-17-11 09:23 PM   #29 
     - You honestly believe that LBJ was primary challenged?  ClassWarrior   Jul-17-11 11:27 PM   #34 
        - Nah...  BklnDem75   Jul-17-11 11:42 PM   #35 
           - ROFLMAO...  ClassWarrior   Jul-17-11 11:53 PM   #36 
              - LOL is right...  BklnDem75   Jul-17-11 11:57 PM   #38 
                 - You think LBJ lost to Nixon because of a primary challenge, and I'M rewriting history??  ClassWarrior   Jul-18-11 12:15 AM   #40 
                    - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-18-11 06:08 AM   #44 
                    - Please link where I said that  BklnDem75   Jul-18-11 12:07 PM   #67 
                       - Everyone can see where you said that, above.  ClassWarrior   Jul-18-11 01:09 PM   #70 
                          - Then you should have no trouble pointing it out  BklnDem75   Jul-18-11 03:12 PM   #88 
                             - I'll have no trouble pointing it out REPEATEDLY.  ClassWarrior   Jul-18-11 05:23 PM   #91 
                                - Words you apparently can't point out  BklnDem75   Jul-18-11 07:25 PM   #93 
  - Sitting Presidents who are weak are challenged in the Primaries. (NT)  Tesha   Jul-17-11 08:20 PM   #24 
  - russforpres.com  Ed Needham   Jul-17-11 08:29 PM   #27 
  - I believe Feingold long ago ruled that out  karynnj   Jul-18-11 07:22 AM   #47 
  - Deleted post  PragmaticLiberal   Jul-18-11 11:45 AM   #62 
  - Absolutely! And while we are at it  Inuca   Jul-18-11 02:23 PM   #82 
  - Troll...  tallahasseedem   Jul-19-11 03:05 PM   #106 
  - Wrong. Sitting Presidents who are weak... are primary challenged.  ClassWarrior   Jul-17-11 11:26 PM   #33 
  - Unless the challenger becomes the VP .nt  Hawkowl   Jul-17-11 11:57 PM   #37 
  - Sitting Presidents who piss on Democratic principles and  Leontius   Jul-19-11 02:51 PM   #104 
  - Weak presidents are challenged, no?  frustrated_lefty   Jul-19-11 06:32 PM   #109 
  - I highly doubt that  bigwillq   Jul-17-11 05:45 PM   #2 
  - No reasonable Dem/Progressive, imo.  elleng   Jul-17-11 05:45 PM   #3 
  - If the Democratic Party wants to stay alive...  lib2DaBone   Jul-17-11 05:46 PM   #4 
  - This is what suicide looks like.  nevergiveup   Jul-17-11 05:53 PM   #7 
  - We have that anyway.... and everyday the media dumps more on our doorstep..  lib2DaBone   Jul-17-11 06:01 PM   #9 
  - No president can deliver everything to everyone. Obama is smart  kiranon   Jul-18-11 11:36 AM   #59 
     - "the arc of history bends slowly....  Inuca   Jul-18-11 02:26 PM   #83 
  - Agree. n/t  kiranon   Jul-18-11 11:32 AM   #57 
  - +1,000,000,000  grahamhgreen   Jul-18-11 01:36 PM   #76 
  - Dennis Kucinich!!!  Fire1   Jul-17-11 05:49 PM   #5 
  - "Moribund" campaign? Tell that to his 200,000+ new donors.  AtomicKitten   Jul-17-11 05:51 PM   #6 
  - 260,000+ new voters. And I agree with the rest of your post.  jenmito   Jul-17-11 08:25 PM   #26 
     - easily 260,000+  AtomicKitten   Jul-18-11 01:32 AM   #42 
  - Jimmy Carter  MiniMe   Jul-17-11 05:57 PM   #8 
  - These are different times.. if you dont believe me.. get back to me on Aug 3rd...  lib2DaBone   Jul-17-11 06:08 PM   #10 
  - OK.... 6 wars and invading Iran...  Inuca   Jul-18-11 02:28 PM   #84 
  - I've never bough into the "Ted Kennedy ruined Jimmy Carter's chances"  Maccagirl   Jul-17-11 06:23 PM   #13 
  - And, I hate to say, he was a lousy speaker  bhikkhu   Jul-18-11 10:11 AM   #53 
  - Yeah, that Ted... what a bastard.  21st Century FDR   Jul-17-11 07:54 PM   #21 
     - Wooops.  boppers   Jul-18-11 12:49 AM   #41 
  - Since there's no serious Repub challenger, we have a lot of slack  saras   Jul-17-11 06:15 PM   #11 
  - The idea that there's "no serious Repub challenger" is just silly.  former9thward   Jul-17-11 06:58 PM   #18 
     - Generic is not a real person  KingFlorez   Jul-17-11 07:14 PM   #19 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-17-11 07:27 PM   #20 
           - Like they united around McCain?  BklnDem75   Jul-17-11 09:27 PM   #30 
           - 2010 was not that long ago either.  former9thward   Jul-18-11 10:30 AM   #54 
              - Was there a general election in 2010?  BklnDem75   Jul-18-11 10:40 AM   #56 
                 - General elections are held every two years in this country.  former9thward   Jul-18-11 12:03 PM   #66 
                    - Considering we're talking about Obama...  BklnDem75   Jul-18-11 12:13 PM   #69 
                       - If you want to ignore 2010 just because Obama was not on the ballot so be it.  former9thward   Jul-18-11 01:25 PM   #72 
                          - As opposed to your doom and gloom...  BklnDem75   Jul-18-11 03:18 PM   #89 
           - I know a lot about politics, thank you very much  KingFlorez   Jul-17-11 10:55 PM   #31 
              - Then I guess we can just sit back and watch. Right?  former9thward   Jul-18-11 10:31 AM   #55 
                 - My point is, Republican don't have an easy win  KingFlorez   Jul-18-11 02:32 PM   #86 
                    - I am not assuming anything. The difference between you and me.  former9thward   Jul-18-11 02:43 PM   #87 
                       - Yeah, sure  KingFlorez   Jul-18-11 08:54 PM   #97 
  - bringing some issues out into the light might be the only benefit.  elana i am   Jul-17-11 06:28 PM   #14 
  - Thank You, elana i am!  Paka   Jul-17-11 11:59 PM   #39 
  - Obama is the best we can hope for?  Skittles   Jul-18-11 04:40 AM   #43 
  - +1000  MissDeeds   Jul-18-11 09:31 AM   #51 
  - Very well stated.  Tarheel_Dem   Jul-18-11 11:44 AM   #61 
  - There are no credible challengers. Only kooks. nt  tritsofme   Jul-17-11 06:38 PM   #15 
  - The ones who see a benefit (totally speculated on their part with not proof to back them up)  FrenchieCat   Jul-17-11 06:42 PM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-17-11 06:54 PM   #17 
  - WOW ... a 2nd "primary Obama" thread on DU in the same day!!!!  JoePhilly   Jul-17-11 08:04 PM   #22 
  - russforpres.com  Ed Needham   Jul-17-11 08:22 PM   #25 
  - Nine whole posts, and you're pushing a primary challenger? Hmmmmm....  Tarheel_Dem   Jul-18-11 11:51 AM   #63 
  - NOPE!! Stop your hate mongering! Flamebait!! n/t  Liberal_Stalwart71   Jul-17-11 09:10 PM   #28 
  - no benefit , no loss  mitchtv   Jul-17-11 11:24 PM   #32 
  - Answering the question in the headline:  July16th-20th   Jul-18-11 06:37 AM   #45 
  - No. Has it ever been a benefit before?  Jennicut   Jul-18-11 08:52 AM   #48 
  - It Aint Gonna Happen. Obama Is Not Going to be Primaried.  Yavin4   Jul-18-11 09:03 AM   #49 
  - I think it is the only way to save the Party.  BlueIris   Jul-18-11 09:04 AM   #50 
  - The Party doesn't need you to save it.  Palmer Eldritch   Jul-18-11 11:38 AM   #60 
  - Thank You!  Tarheel_Dem   Jul-18-11 11:52 AM   #64 
  - Agree. nt  woo me with science   Jul-19-11 09:54 AM   #100 
  - I don't see it...  kjackson227   Jul-18-11 10:07 AM   #52 
  - No, thanks. We'll just stick with the best President in the past 70 years.  Palmer Eldritch   Jul-18-11 11:36 AM   #58 
  - Ask Ari Melber of The Nation if that's a good idea. There's a reason no one has stepped forward!  Tarheel_Dem   Jul-18-11 11:57 AM   #65 
  - LOL, today's Primary Obama!!1!! thread....  dionysus   Jul-18-11 12:11 PM   #68 
  - Idiotic! And "moribund campaign"?!?!?!  Inuca   Jul-18-11 01:13 PM   #71 
  - The most popular Democratic President since Kennedy and you want to primary him?  thelordofhell   Jul-18-11 01:27 PM   #73 
  - But he has a "moribund campaign"  Inuca   Jul-18-11 01:31 PM   #74 
  - What we really want is for him to stand up for Dem principals like Medicare for All, Ending the wars  grahamhgreen   Jul-18-11 01:42 PM   #77 
     - And the only way to make sure of retaining SS, Medicare, Medicaid...etc..  Cal33   Jul-18-11 02:09 PM   #80 
     - His current strategy of debating within the radical rights narrative, and then  grahamhgreen   Jul-18-11 08:37 PM   #96 
     - Then please start a thread with that  thelordofhell   Jul-18-11 04:43 PM   #90 
  - Let's face it, Obama is on a trajectory to lose in 2012. "Given the choice between a Republican and  grahamhgreen   Jul-18-11 01:35 PM   #75 
  - HST was correct. Neocons and Tea Partyers are not Republicans at all. The  Cal33   Jul-18-11 02:01 PM   #78 
  - Let's not face it  Inuca   Jul-18-11 02:19 PM   #81 
  - But it's not going to happen so its a mute point.  WI_DEM   Jul-18-11 02:01 PM   #79 
  - It would not help anything.  ccharles000   Jul-18-11 02:30 PM   #85 
  - Primary challenges have proven nothing but harmful to sitting Presidents in the past,  Arkana   Jul-18-11 06:05 PM   #92 
  - I sure do, but the New Dems fear a primary challenge, especially by a Progressive,  NorthCarolina   Jul-18-11 07:41 PM   #94 
  - The general election.  nemo137   Jul-18-11 08:02 PM   #95 
  - I think you're wrong on both counts  lunatica   Jul-19-11 06:42 AM   #98 
  - It's a benefit only if by "benefit" you mean electing a Republican president in 2012.  robcon   Jul-19-11 07:42 AM   #99 
  - history says you're wrong.  mkultra   Jul-19-11 11:38 AM   #101 
  - Nope. None whatsoever.  Phx_Dem   Jul-19-11 01:31 PM   #102 
  - No. n/t  stevenleser   Jul-19-11 02:25 PM   #103 
  - Not this shit again.  tallahasseedem   Jul-19-11 03:04 PM   #105 
  - I do. This president has been far to cozy with Republicans  Fearless   Jul-19-11 03:18 PM   #107 
  - Today, I am 100% behind a primary challenge.  Autumn   Jul-19-11 03:21 PM   #108 
 

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