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Fri Dec-18-09 08:32 AM
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| -To all who tell us to hold our fire because the alternative is so much worse |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Dec-18-09 06:21 AM |
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Wish I could R this 5 times -- This bill is poison with the mandate |
Armstead |
Dec-18-09 06:28 AM |
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Yes. The bill will completely ;wipe out any remaining discretionary income |
eridani |
Dec-18-09 06:43 AM |
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That is it's purpose. |
MNDemNY |
Dec-18-09 06:58 AM |
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Dec-18-09 07:02 AM |
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It will make people go broke faster -- with the government helping push them over the edge |
Armstead |
Dec-18-09 07:39 AM |
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Yep - and the more people that go broke the less taxes they pay |
tularetom |
Dec-18-09 07:59 AM |
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Thank-You /nt |
still_one |
Dec-18-09 07:16 AM |
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So this bill will put us straight into a Depression |
WeDidIt |
Dec-18-09 07:17 AM |
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You just made a very important point which few realize eom |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-19-09 01:25 PM |
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Big K&R thanks n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Dec-18-09 07:23 AM |
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Useful. Thanks. k&r n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-18-09 08:27 AM |
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So, what's the alternative- that's going to pass with our current Congress? |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Dec-18-09 08:31 AM |
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In the meantime, people are going broke and losing everything |
mullard12ax7 |
Dec-18-09 01:15 PM |
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Now or never is so entirely false... |
levander |
Dec-18-09 11:34 PM |
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Indeed what are we the people going to do. |
truedelphi |
Dec-19-09 01:37 AM |
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change the Medicare eligibility age to 0 yrs., 1 day |
appal_jack |
Dec-19-09 04:51 AM |
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K & R nt |
snagglepuss |
Dec-18-09 08:32 AM |
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K & R |
AzDar |
Dec-18-09 08:52 AM |
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You got this so right it hurts. |
TacticalPeek |
Dec-18-09 08:59 AM |
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The same basic story over and over for thirty years now... |
tom_paine |
Dec-18-09 12:33 PM |
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the alternative is nothing |
CreekDog |
Dec-18-09 12:36 PM |
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"doom for dems" |
amborin |
Dec-18-09 12:39 PM |
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K&R for the actual research |
mullard12ax7 |
Dec-18-09 01:13 PM |
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knr. |
tekisui |
Dec-18-09 01:15 PM |
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This is pure truth. Thank you. |
lildreamer316 |
Dec-18-09 03:01 PM |
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I'll wait to see what the final numbers look like, they don't look good right now though |
uponit7771 |
Dec-18-09 03:10 PM |
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get back up there....kick |
Armstead |
Dec-18-09 03:31 PM |
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kicked and rec'd |
brentspeak |
Dec-18-09 03:36 PM |
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K&R..although I'm waiting for the response about ponies or curing cancer |
TK421 |
Dec-18-09 03:39 PM |
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You just want a pony |
Armstead |
Dec-18-09 03:45 PM |
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and a cure for cancer...don't leave that out! |
TK421 |
Dec-18-09 03:47 PM |
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You supporting the GOP |
Armstead |
Dec-18-09 03:52 PM |
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Yeah...I work for Rush, but he pays me in Oxycontins rather than cash |
TK421 |
Dec-18-09 03:56 PM |
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You're also a leftist socialist |
Armstead |
Dec-18-09 03:58 PM |
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who's on the oxycontin here anyways? |
TK421 |
Dec-18-09 04:04 PM |
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You just want to have it *your* way. If you don't get what you want ... |
puebloknot |
Dec-18-09 04:04 PM |
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I'm pounding on my desk right now AND SCREAMING!@!@!!!!! |
TK421 |
Dec-18-09 04:10 PM |
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You get the WAAAMBULANCE only if your insurance covers it! nt |
puebloknot |
Dec-18-09 05:00 PM |
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...well, Obama aint solved neither one of those so he aint shit!! ./sarcasm lol... |
uponit7771 |
Dec-18-09 05:07 PM |
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"Health care: $20,565 "? Where is she getting these numbers, and what about employer contributions? |
ProSense |
Dec-18-09 03:55 PM |
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Your chart not even close to what my family of 4 is paying under current law |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-18-09 11:45 PM |
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K&R to Powers of Ten!!! |
puebloknot |
Dec-18-09 04:01 PM |
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Her analysis is wholly inaccurate -- her figures do not include accurate individual subsidy rates. |
quiet.american |
Dec-18-09 04:12 PM |
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*****THREAD DEAD***** Thx for this post |
uponit7771 |
Dec-18-09 05:08 PM |
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The exact figures do not matter so much to me. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-19-09 12:51 AM |
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k&r |
Little Star |
Dec-18-09 04:32 PM |
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No one can make an accurate prediction because big insurance |
Vinca |
Dec-18-09 04:39 PM |
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Actually, that's not entirely true. |
quiet.american |
Dec-18-09 05:06 PM |
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Maybe the coming |
femrap |
Dec-18-09 07:08 PM |
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He has a dick? nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-19-09 06:28 AM |
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a small one that has |
femrap |
Dec-19-09 10:54 AM |
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Agree. rec nt |
rhett o rick |
Dec-18-09 08:00 PM |
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If this abomination passes, mass civil disobedience is our only recourse |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-18-09 10:10 PM |
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Recommended. I very much trust Marcy Wheelers' work. |
madfloridian |
Dec-18-09 10:37 PM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Dec-18-09 10:40 PM |
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What is the penalty for not taking part in the mandate? |
mzmolly |
Dec-18-09 10:42 PM |
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Fines and if fines are not paid then jail time n/t |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-18-09 11:42 PM |
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Is there a link to more info on the specifics? |
mzmolly |
Dec-18-09 11:56 PM |
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So if you don't pay the fine nothing happens? |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-19-09 01:15 AM |
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No, you'd face IRS penalties for not paying the additional |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-09 11:03 AM |
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Oh OK...thanks for clearing that up...WHEW |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-19-09 01:23 PM |
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Great post |
dflprincess |
Dec-18-09 10:44 PM |
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Methinks Howard Dean is RIGHT. n/t |
orbitalman |
Dec-18-09 10:46 PM |
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the analogy is made to mandatory car insurance |
soryang |
Dec-18-09 10:59 PM |
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Car ownership is NOT mandated |
Garam_Masala |
Dec-19-09 01:17 AM |
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? |
soryang |
Dec-19-09 11:13 PM |
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K&R |
MissDeeds |
Dec-18-09 11:11 PM |
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How dare you post the fundamentals! It's undermining Hope and Change* |
Grinchie |
Dec-18-09 11:22 PM |
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K&R... nt |
Blasphemer |
Dec-18-09 11:38 PM |
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Here is more info on the penalty for non compliance: |
mzmolly |
Dec-19-09 12:09 AM |
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This is what I fear since hubby and I are in the middle |
eleny |
Dec-19-09 12:10 AM |
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Recommend. Nt |
xchrom |
Dec-19-09 12:32 AM |
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And the New World Order keeps right on marching in lock-step.. |
winyanstaz |
Dec-19-09 01:33 AM |
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For me personally, nothing would be worse than being forced to pay insurance companies for |
DesertDiamond |
Dec-19-09 02:27 AM |
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The days of "where are they going to go" are OVAH |
FunMe |
Dec-19-09 04:13 AM |
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Agreed. I am not going to be emotionally blackmailed to buy guy A's crap because I'm afraid of... |
Wardoc |
Dec-19-09 04:58 AM |
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Dec-19-09 05:25 AM |
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Thank you. And I'm so sick of hearing about the "30 million Americans" who will be covered |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-19-09 11:10 AM |
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