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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 07:19 PM
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44. what difference would that make?
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 07:22 PM by CreekDog
whatever he said, by your reasoning, wouldn't mean what it sounded like, but instead something different.

i prefer to believe, as i do, that he generally means what he says. i don't believe he's playing a word game here as you imply. though i don't like his position on this, i'm much more sympathetic to him if i know he's giving it to me straight.

but if he's wordsmithing in a way that i cannot fathom what his words mean, or i have to discount the obvious meaning of them --then that would suggest there's no point in listening to him at all, because it's obfuscation.

again, i don't actually believe that.

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  -What was Obama referring to when he spoke of "trimming benefits" at his press conference today? Cali_Democrat  Jul-11-11 05:04 PM   #0 
  - There's the quote that everybody was demanding a few days ago  high density   Jul-11-11 05:07 PM   #1 
  - No that is NOT the quote  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 05:12 PM   #4 
     - That is one hell of a reach.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-11-11 05:17 PM   #7 
     - "trimming benefits and increasing revenues"  high density   Jul-11-11 05:19 PM   #8 
     - Eliminating subsidies to big corps would be trimming benefits.  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 05:42 PM   #11 
        - you know if you're right, you have no respect for Obama whatsoever  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 05:52 PM   #16 
        - Oh bull.  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 05:56 PM   #21 
           - you made the argument...contorted as it was, only to find out it actually makes Obama look bad  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 06:12 PM   #29 
           - Bookmarking this. Thanks CD nt  LaurenG   Jul-12-11 09:04 AM   #46 
           - That's funny  MNBrewer   Jul-11-11 06:13 PM   #30 
              - and how does that "defense" of Obama actually make him look?  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 06:19 PM   #35 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-11-11 06:24 PM   #37 
        - So trimming those subsidies would be a hard, unpleasant thing to do?  high density   Jul-11-11 05:54 PM   #19 
           - He used to word 'people' which could be REPUBLICANS  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 06:01 PM   #23 
              - There are more details available in the official WH transcript of today's news conf:  Zenlitened   Jul-11-11 06:17 PM   #33 
              - he didn't say "subisidies"...he said "benefits"  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 06:22 PM   #36 
              - We are all free here to post our opinions.  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 06:28 PM   #39 
                 - it's clear i'm not trying to silence you --but that your defense of Obama actually hurts him  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 06:38 PM   #41 
              - jeez, you're making it sound like he choose his words very poorly  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 06:33 PM   #40 
     - My impression is that he was referring to raising or eliminating the  Frustratedlady   Jul-11-11 05:35 PM   #10 
     - Ummm  MNBrewer   Jul-11-11 06:10 PM   #27 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-11-11 06:27 PM   #38 
  - well, not to make it too obvious  Tansy_Gold   Jul-11-11 05:09 PM   #2 
  - Trimming 'benefits' probably means TAX CUTS that benefit the rich. n/t  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 05:09 PM   #3 
  - It almost certainly does NOT mean that.  Zenlitened   Jul-11-11 05:45 PM   #13 
  - LOL, good one! nt  boston bean   Jul-11-11 05:45 PM   #14 
  - Exactly what unicorn-filled wonderland do you live in?  MNBrewer   Jul-11-11 06:15 PM   #32 
  - cancelling congressional retirement packages and health care? yeah right nt  msongs   Jul-11-11 05:12 PM   #5 
  - It means taking from the least among us.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-11-11 05:14 PM   #6 
  - Speaking of hypocrisy...  jefferson_dem   Jul-11-11 05:52 PM   #17 
  - I think he is talking about  wolfgirl   Jul-11-11 05:20 PM   #9 
  - Bottom line is that since Obama gave no details - no one knows what he was referring to. n/t  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 05:44 PM   #12 
  - This is why I asked the question. I was hoping people could shed some more light on the subject  Cali_Democrat   Jul-11-11 05:53 PM   #18 
  - The only person that can shed any light is Obama.  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 06:02 PM   #24 
  - Despite the fact that he must know that the rumor of SS and Medicare cuts is out there  MNBrewer   Jul-11-11 06:17 PM   #34 
     - ^That's how most heard and interpreted it, MNBrewer ^  Mimosa   Jul-11-11 06:49 PM   #43 
  - Old news...  jefferson_dem   Jul-11-11 05:50 PM   #15 
  - I'm not understanding your point here at all.  Zenlitened   Jul-11-11 06:08 PM   #26 
  - Most of the cuts will be to spending. That's not in dispute. n/t  Unvanguard   Jul-11-11 05:54 PM   #20 
  - The statement about "trimming benefits" was part of an answer...  Zenlitened   Jul-11-11 05:58 PM   #22 
  - He means cutting social security.  tcaudilllg   Jul-11-11 06:05 PM   #25 
     - Did Obama call you up and tell you that?  Tx4obama   Jul-11-11 06:12 PM   #28 
     - what difference would that make?  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 07:19 PM   #44 
     - Well, I honestly don't think I can be accused of having blinders on...  Zenlitened   Jul-11-11 06:13 PM   #31 
  - It seems pretty clear he was talking about entitlements.  Vattel   Jul-11-11 06:44 PM   #42 
     - The more I think about it  Cali_Democrat   Jul-11-11 07:24 PM   #45 

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