Divine Discontent
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| 26. once again, as I stated in the other story from the other day that didn't have any specifics about |
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cuts to social services and entitlements - there will be no specifics - as I believe these press releases are designed to garner how much of a reaction it gets - let's put it out there rather clearly - - - - - - -
CUT SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID BENEFITS FOR THE "PEOPLE" (MEANING NON-RICH) AND WATCH AS A GOP SCUMBAG WINS THE PRESIDENCY - BECAUSE I KNOW DOZENS OF PEOPLE CLOSE IN MY LIFE, ALL BUT TWO ARE DEMS - AND NONE OF THEM, NOT ONE, ARE PLEASED WITH THE CAPITULATIONS.
"Shit!" is right. The rich have seen their personal wealth balloon, their tax burden drop drastically over the past 30 years, and corporations are doin' as they please and some are paying zilch in taxes, all while a trillion is wasted on moving soldiers on the Risk© board, and the environment is poisoned, which will poison us... did I miss anything?
"The fiscal good has to outweigh the pain", I think that may be the dirtiest and weakest bullshit I've heard in a while from a "Democrat". How about we jack up the taxes on the wealthy to 40%, or how about 70% like under President Nixon? There's some fairness, because if you take much more from the "people", there's gonna be extreme dissent in this country. Let's make sure their "eyes" understand the reductions in costs must effect the wealthy almost entirely.
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| -In debt talks, Obama offers Social Security cuts |
Cali_Democrat |
Jul-06-11 09:33 PM |
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Only Nixon could go to China.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-06-11 09:37 PM |
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Yep. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-06-11 11:26 PM |
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With SS cuts I offer you Obama. |
Downwinder |
Jul-06-11 09:37 PM |
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Jul-06-11 09:38 PM |
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Don't know what to say..disappointed at best. |
Stuart G |
Jul-06-11 09:39 PM |
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NO. That is OUR money, not his. |
aquart |
Jul-06-11 09:39 PM |
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Money, hell -- LIFE |
Downwinder |
Jul-06-11 09:41 PM |
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Not acceptable. Period. |
closeupready |
Jul-06-11 09:41 PM |
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So let me get this straight |
DJ13 |
Jul-06-11 09:46 PM |
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Jul-06-11 09:54 PM |
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Well said....This is not representative of why I became a Democrat. |
EndElectoral |
Jul-06-11 09:56 PM |
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No, you didn't get that straight. |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-06-11 10:57 PM |
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Perhaps you could clarify? nt |
Javaman |
Jul-07-11 07:33 AM |
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And your reasoning is......? |
DJ13 |
Jul-07-11 11:11 AM |
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Jul-06-11 09:46 PM |
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Jul-06-11 09:48 PM |
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+1 |
bahrbearian |
Jul-06-11 09:51 PM |
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Is that an instruction for OTHER people to go get it started? |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-06-11 10:58 PM |
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I have just written to the White House? How about you? |
Lifelong Protester |
Jul-06-11 09:48 PM |
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Me neither. And much much worse. |
neoralme |
Jul-06-11 10:39 PM |
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The twitter townhall meeting... |
roxiejules |
Jul-06-11 10:49 PM |
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We're being sold out. We're not represented in Washington. |
lob1 |
Jul-06-11 09:49 PM |
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+1 nt |
woo me with science |
Jul-07-11 03:39 AM |
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I sure wish we had a Democrat in the White House |
BlueIdaho |
Jul-06-11 09:52 PM |
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Drowning the Fed. Gov't, |
blkmusclmachine |
Jul-06-11 09:53 PM |
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Jul-06-11 09:54 PM |
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Wait a minute ... |
1StrongBlackMan |
Jul-06-11 09:56 PM |
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True |
Iliyah |
Jul-06-11 10:10 PM |
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So why can't he simply say... |
BlueIdaho |
Jul-06-11 10:24 PM |
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Oh, puhleeze. This man is not remotely a Dem. He is acting |
neoralme |
Jul-06-11 10:31 PM |
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LOL |
Iliyah |
Jul-06-11 10:42 PM |
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You are as wrong as you can be. Your comparison of events and |
neoralme |
Jul-06-11 10:46 PM |
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NOPE |
Iliyah |
Jul-06-11 10:50 PM |
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Clinton is a DINO. Obama is a Republican. |
neoralme |
Jul-06-11 10:52 PM |
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+1 |
bitchkitty |
Jul-07-11 01:48 AM |
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the center is now right of Reagan |
rurallib |
Jul-07-11 07:36 AM |
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efficiency and a reduction in provider over-payments? |
AlbertCat |
Jul-06-11 10:15 PM |
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It is a reworking of the COLA and will effect |
eilen |
Jul-06-11 10:41 PM |
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Here's the important paragraph |
high density |
Jul-06-11 10:42 PM |
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Nothing has changed. This is an excuse |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-06-11 10:44 PM |
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No, what's disgusting is |
bitchkitty |
Jul-07-11 01:52 AM |
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Swing and a miss. |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 02:15 AM |
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If I mistook you for an apologist, i'm sorry. |
bitchkitty |
Jul-07-11 03:00 AM |
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I agree. This is exactly like all the uproar over the rumor... |
bvar22 |
Jul-07-11 12:39 PM |
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Provider-cuts. And who do you think will pay for those cuts? |
JDPriestly |
Jul-07-11 12:48 AM |
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Terrible, if true, but is it true? |
DavidDvorkin |
Jul-06-11 09:56 PM |
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True or not... |
Frisbee |
Jul-06-11 10:01 PM |
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From NYT |
roxiejules |
Jul-06-11 10:39 PM |
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The GOP has had an impressive game: |
high density |
Jul-06-11 10:51 PM |
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Obama is setting himself up for a big loss in 2012. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-07-11 12:55 AM |
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NO. Not the way people THINK it is. |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-06-11 10:45 PM |
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When did Obama mention this before? |
roxiejules |
Jul-06-11 11:52 PM |
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He mentioned opportunities for cost reduction the 2011 SOTU: |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 01:38 AM |
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Obama never mentioned changing the way that the cost of living |
JDPriestly |
Jul-07-11 12:58 AM |
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Primary him. He is so replacable with an actual Democrat. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-06-11 10:01 PM |
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He has gun pointed at his head by 84 repugs who won't budge |
julian09 |
Jul-06-11 10:30 PM |
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Nonsense. He hasn't played his cards well at all. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-07-11 01:00 AM |
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Well, go get started! |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-06-11 10:39 PM |
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Nothing that you're willing to recognize, but that doens't make it "nothing" |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 01:27 AM |
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Negotiates so poorly he would starve to death in real business. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-07-11 08:42 AM |
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Folded like a cheap card table. |
checks-n-balances |
Jul-06-11 10:03 PM |
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“These moments come along at most once a decade." |
DJ13 |
Jul-06-11 10:25 PM |
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Say wha'???? |
AlbertCat |
Jul-06-11 10:09 PM |
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once again, as I stated in the other story from the other day that didn't have any specifics about |
Divine Discontent |
Jul-06-11 10:11 PM |
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"in exchange for Republican support"....... |
Scottybeamer70 |
Jul-06-11 10:15 PM |
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you mean the rethuglican support we didn't get on healthcare? that support? lol |
Divine Discontent |
Jul-06-11 10:22 PM |
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Jul-06-11 10:17 PM |
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If he does this, he will be regarded as the worst Democratic |
neoralme |
Jul-06-11 10:34 PM |
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Oh...it's the WAPO...like Salon, NYT, Firedoglake, TPM, Global Research & other sites...It Lies... |
KoKo |
Jul-06-11 10:19 PM |
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How much would you lose in benefits if President Obama makes a deal with GOP to cut SS? |
roxiejules |
Jul-06-11 10:23 PM |
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any cuts are an attack on life, so I don't agree with "keeping it off the table" later by |
Divine Discontent |
Jul-06-11 10:33 PM |
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What the heck is Kevin Drum talking about, a "Long, long time?" |
high density |
Jul-06-11 10:57 PM |
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Does that mean they want to cut 75-85+ old people who struggle... |
Amonester |
Jul-06-11 11:12 PM |
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Does that meant that the middle-class seniors -- who are not indigent |
JDPriestly |
Jul-07-11 01:14 AM |
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This is the sickest thing I have heard... |
Oldenuff |
Jul-06-11 10:32 PM |
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So I guess now there will be apologies from those |
HankyDubs |
Jul-06-11 10:34 PM |
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Jul-06-11 10:34 PM |
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e. They are attacking everything that moves in the general discussion forums. |
QC |
Jul-06-11 11:25 PM |
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You don't mind if I wait for Obama to actually MAKE a proposal, do you? |
brooklynite |
Jul-06-11 10:36 PM |
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+100. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Jul-06-11 10:42 PM |
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"There seems to be a hunger..." |
HankyDubs |
Jul-06-11 10:47 PM |
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Did you throw up in your mouth after reading that too? nt |
eilen |
Jul-06-11 10:49 PM |
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Jul-06-11 11:28 PM |
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We will hold our "I told you so's" until then |
eilen |
Jul-06-11 10:47 PM |
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as long as you don't mind us applying pressure before the die is cast |
peace4ever |
Jul-06-11 11:27 PM |
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How I wish I could say, " I'm surprised". |
russspeakeasy |
Jul-06-11 10:44 PM |
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He just offered to throw us all under the bus. He can no longer count on my vote. |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-06-11 10:53 PM |
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Jul-06-11 11:09 PM |
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Touch Social Security, End Your Public Career |
roxiejules |
Jul-06-11 11:43 PM |
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Well, well, well. There you go. Just as I predicted. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-07-11 12:44 AM |
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Wait...did something actually OCCUR to support your prediction? -nt |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 01:28 AM |
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Yes. Obama made a threatening, ugly speech in which |
JDPriestly |
Jul-08-11 04:02 AM |
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I will not vote for a Democrat that cuts Social Security or Medicare... |
Ozymanithrax |
Jul-07-11 01:07 AM |
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The words of the last decent Republican president come to mind here |
21st Century FDR |
Jul-07-11 01:16 AM |
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That big fat crow is getting ready to be served. We should know in relatively short time at this... |
Safetykitten |
Jul-07-11 01:18 AM |
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Don't bother. You won't have the chance. -nt |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 01:24 AM |
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'said a Democratic official familiar with the administration’s thinking' |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-07-11 01:19 AM |
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thank for the anonymous drivel, it's been so accurate in the past. |
Ice Number Nine |
Jul-07-11 01:42 AM |
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In debt talks, Obama offers Social Security cuts |
Cali_Democrat |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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If true... |
Mojambo |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Goddamn it, he's not listening to the people. |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Why do you assume a Republican-biased business sec. is right about something... |
Honeycombe8 |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Why kid yourself? |
hulka38 |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Did you read the article?! Does no one read anything past the headline anymore? n/t |
vaberella |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Do you want the cap on annual SS contribution amounts increased? |
boppers |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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You're right. NO DEM has the right to dismantle the new deal. n/t |
Mimosa |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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You're not listening to Obama. Apparently anonymous is a good enough source. |
Ice Number Nine |
Jul-07-11 03:30 AM |
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If he does this HE will forever be known as the DEMOCRAT that damaged the New Deal |
DJ13 |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Sounds pretty vague and unspecific and chock full of anonymous sources |
bluestateguy |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Yea, at worst it sounds like a trial balloon. |
Hippo_Tron |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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"there seems to be some hunger to do something of some significance" |
dflprincess |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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"I had a Dream" just died today |
FreakinDJ |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Really? What happened today? |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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The "Blue Link Brigade"? |
jefferson_dem |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Eliminate the middleman. |
rug |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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***EVERYONE BE SURE TO SIGN BERNIES LETTER**** |
Cali_Democrat |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Signed |
opiate69 |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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yes nt |
flamingdem |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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I will never vote republican - it will never be in my best interest. |
TheDebbieDee |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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I won't vote for Republicans either |
dflprincess |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Am I still in America? |
high density |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Ruh Roh... |
jefferson_dem |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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I think they needed to get the nit and grit out fast to avoid assumption jumping parties nt |
flamingdem |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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I'm sure it's just The Prez playing 59238-dimension chess with the GOP |
high density |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Exactly. |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Reagan led the most recent SS modifications |
bhikkhu |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Adding a few years on to retirement may be |
zalinda |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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The Capitulator and Chief |
MichDem10 |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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The headlines say Social Security "Cuts", but the article doesn't..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Who cares!11!!!!11 |
jefferson_dem |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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It only shows that people seek the worse of any scenario........ |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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"Tackling the rising cost of social security" |
high density |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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+1 n/t |
OhioBlue |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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But Frenchie, the OP didn't emphasize THAT part! |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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When all you've got is "said a Democratic official familiar with the administration’s thinking" |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Well that would be the final straw |
woolldog |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Another "final straw" for you? |
jefferson_dem |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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That's a whole lot of straws for just one person..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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... |
jefferson_dem |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Says a person foaming at the mouth over an unsourced DC rumor..... |
Joe the Revelator |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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What has he DONE, again? |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Nothing....yet |
woolldog |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Personality over policy. At least they are consistent. |
tekisui |
Jul-07-11 08:32 AM |
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Bully tactics, personal attacks |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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But calling the President "Captain Capitulation" and |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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That is called political speech. It is the reason DU exists. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-07-11 08:30 AM |
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Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Not my final straw.... |
woolldog |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Don't project your ill will onto others. |
jefferson_dem |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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It's not a big leap to note that caving on SS |
woolldog |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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The "base" - the TRUE base - will not stay home in November. -nt |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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well the "true" base |
woolldog |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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No it's not. |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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The "TRUE" base is smaller than Nader's |
Hawkowl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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For the life of me I have no idea what the man is thinking lately. |
EndElectoral |
Jul-07-11 03:15 AM |
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Breaking News......NEITHER DOES THE WAPO! |
FrenchieCat |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Touche`. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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You didn't read past the article or the stuff in bold, did you? |
vaberella |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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DON'T BELIEVE WAPO BUSINESS SECTION RE DEMOCRATS. It's biased. |
Honeycombe8 |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Thank you. They love to stir up crap, and it works very well here. -nt |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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But there are so many Dems helping them stir up crap if the post means anything. n/t |
vaberella |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
#153 |
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Is the President unable to communicate? |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Well... something needs to happen. |
OhioBlue |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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"Obama plans to argue..." You forgot to highlight this part. |
vaberella |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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My wounds? From what? n/t |
vaberella |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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UNrec. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Let's look at the "liberal" press checklist |
thelordofhell |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Some swore he wouldn't |
Mimosa |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Huge Unrec |
BklnDem75 |
Jul-07-11 03:16 AM |
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Despicable and disgusting, |
woo me with science |
Jul-07-11 03:39 AM |
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Misleading headline. I dont see any specifics in the article about cuts. |
DCBob |
Jul-07-11 06:14 AM |
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You just dont get it do you...you touch SS, you are finished |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-07-11 07:54 AM |
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I don't think any Democratic President |
Thrill |
Jul-07-11 02:25 PM |
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