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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 01:19 PM
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16. I don't know what you mean by "even here" from what my understanding is Romneycare was
an attempt to get everyone covered - not an effort at cost-savings. The cost savings will be on the backs of unions it appears.

My husband is a firefighter in MA and I am very aware of the attitude toward public unions in MA - it is not so politically difficult to take a stand against unions in this state - especially AFTER an election when the workers and money is no longer a pressing need.



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  -What the hell is going on in Massachusetts? vaberella  Apr-29-11 11:30 AM   #0 
  - They have been exposed.  RandomThoughts   Apr-29-11 11:35 AM   #1 
  - I'm not really sure what you're talking about. n/t  vaberella   Apr-29-11 11:49 AM   #3 
     - hmm.  RandomThoughts   Apr-29-11 11:52 AM   #4 
  - .... they are fucking liars  fascisthunter   Apr-29-11 11:42 AM   #2 
  - Deval Patrick will never sign that into law.  MercuryRepeater   Apr-29-11 12:10 PM   #5 
  - Don't be too sure about that.  Fuddnik   Apr-29-11 12:13 PM   #6 
  - I suggest that Governor Patrick think hard about putting a pen to that piece of shit Democratic kill  louslobbs   Apr-29-11 12:37 PM   #7 
  - He's not running again - no skin off his nose. He's been proposing this since January. n/t  seaglass   Apr-29-11 01:13 PM   #15 
     - Thanks for the info, so if he signs it, just another fake, phony and fraud. I get it. Thanks  louslobbs   Apr-29-11 03:01 PM   #25 
  - That's not the point. That a was a democratic run house that did that.  vaberella   Apr-29-11 02:44 PM   #23 
  - The Dems want to limit health care costs in MA  TayTay   Apr-29-11 12:44 PM   #8 
  - Well, let's hope you are correct and thanks for that post.  louslobbs   Apr-29-11 12:48 PM   #10 
  - It is very much up in the air right now  TayTay   Apr-29-11 12:58 PM   #13 
     - I don't know what you mean by "even here" from what my understanding is Romneycare was  seaglass   Apr-29-11 01:19 PM   #16 
     - Exactly so and that is a real problem  TayTay   Apr-29-11 01:35 PM   #18 
     - Thank you for informing me with a well thought out post. Knowing that info, the Dems must  louslobbs   Apr-29-11 03:11 PM   #27 
     - It's actually Romney/Obama care  ProudDad   Apr-30-11 12:30 PM   #42 
  - So Rachel's episode was wrong? n/t  vaberella   Apr-29-11 02:45 PM   #24 
  - Exactly. This is not Wisconsin redux. This bill still has to get through the State Senate too,  Arkana   Apr-29-11 05:50 PM   #31 
  - What? Now can we look forward to Dem Crazies doing crazy shit to take the heat of the lunatic pubes  louslobbs   Apr-29-11 12:47 PM   #9 
  - Massachusetts is a microcosm of the "Centrist" National Democratic Party.  bvar22   Apr-29-11 12:51 PM   #11 
  - Hey everyone look over there  Broderick   Apr-29-11 12:54 PM   #12 
  - Deval Patrick proposed this in January. This should not be a surprise to Obama.  seaglass   Apr-29-11 01:09 PM   #14 
  - I don't think you're understanding my point.  vaberella   Apr-29-11 05:36 PM   #29 
     - sorry, after the last go round with you and your lack of fact checking I'm going to have  seaglass   Apr-30-11 01:11 PM   #45 
  - I live in Massachusetts..,..For the sake of balance, there IS another side to this  Armstead   Apr-29-11 01:23 PM   #17 
  - That sounds so pragmatic. Who could possibly object? n/t  seaglass   Apr-29-11 02:00 PM   #19 
     - It IS a pragmatic problem -- that the state Democrats handled dumbly  Armstead   Apr-29-11 02:13 PM   #20 
        - Yes, I am very aware of the fiscal problems we are facing because we have been feeling the effects  seaglass   Apr-29-11 02:32 PM   #21 
           - Maybe so...But I'm not sure there is a big anti-union backlash, at least not here  Armstead   Apr-29-11 02:41 PM   #22 
  - Obama has known that for a while (assuming he is not an idiot).  Mass   Apr-29-11 03:04 PM   #26 
  - I don't understand what Obama has to do with Massachusetts politics to even be brought up.  vaberella   Apr-29-11 05:25 PM   #28 
  - You're right. Extending the Bush tax cuts put our government funding in jeopardy and  Exilednight   Apr-29-11 07:14 PM   #36 
  - It's bad, but not Wisconsin bad.  Arkana   Apr-29-11 05:48 PM   #30 
  - I don't think people will make that difference when presented with the issue.  vaberella   Apr-29-11 07:01 PM   #34 
     - Because it doesn't remove the right to collective bargaining completely.  Arkana   Apr-30-11 10:05 AM   #38 
  - None of them are going to be re-elected  Ramulux   Apr-29-11 06:02 PM   #32 
  - I agree with you. That's why I asked for some Massachusetts' opinion.  vaberella   Apr-29-11 07:00 PM   #33 
  - Welcome to Massachusetts  Armstead   Apr-29-11 07:06 PM   #35 
  - This is a pretty good summary of the bill  TayTay   Apr-30-11 09:08 AM   #37 
  - Isn't that why unions are withdrawing money from dems and dumping into local recall efforts?  lonestarnot   Apr-30-11 10:06 AM   #39 
     - I haven't seen any recalls yet in MA  TayTay   Apr-30-11 10:45 AM   #40 
  - The "nicer" of the 2 right-wings of the Corporate Business/War Pary  ProudDad   Apr-30-11 12:27 PM   #41 
  - Patrick was on Bill Maher last night and said he will not sign this bill into law.  ReturnoftheDjedi   Apr-30-11 12:31 PM   #43 
     - The bill he supports is no better  former9thward   Apr-30-11 01:09 PM   #44 
 

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