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Ildem09 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:13 AM
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75. in regards to proportionality
I am talking about the voting populous. which would cause gallups poll to tend to be skewed that way. they could however correct for that but they haven't shown the their methodology so i cannot comment on that. i would suspect there is some multicollinearity going on with some of the variables though. but like i said i can't terse it out cause I dont have their raw data
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  -For supporters of President Obama angee_is_mad  Dec-16-09 10:53 PM   #0 
  - Needed to be said.  JohnnyLib2   Dec-16-09 10:54 PM   #1 
  - Amazing how Progressives perspectives on the issues  angee_is_mad   Dec-16-09 11:11 PM   #16 
     - "What concerns me is... the politically foolish... mandating that people buy private insurance..."  LooseWilly   Dec-17-09 12:30 AM   #55 
     - Important point. Should perhaps be its own OP. nt.  freddie mertz   Dec-17-09 07:23 AM   #114 
     - How could they do it without the mandate, though?  treestar   Dec-17-09 07:58 AM   #117 
        - Give the people an public option that is affordable, and they will buy it. A mandate won't be needed  LooseWilly   Dec-17-09 07:42 PM   #143 
     - Thatnks for this link to BooMan,  Cha   Dec-18-09 12:35 AM   #146 
  - Obama won't even carry Indiana in 12, not even Lake County  IndianaGreen   Dec-16-09 10:56 PM   #2 
  - Did not this state vote for Bush  O is 44   Dec-16-09 11:09 PM   #11 
  - We got a lot of people to the polls on the basis of their hopes for a better future  IndianaGreen   Dec-16-09 11:53 PM   #42 
     - It is still early,,,  O is 44   Dec-17-09 12:19 AM   #52 
  - Thank you for your bastion of enthusiasm and positivity.  TheWraith   Dec-16-09 11:09 PM   #14 
  - You wish  treestar   Dec-17-09 07:59 AM   #118 
  - Sit down and share a piece of sweet potato pie with me....  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 10:59 PM   #3 
  - My goodness girl, did you make that?  Cha   Dec-16-09 11:02 PM   #6 
  - No........  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:08 PM   #10 
     - So Hope supports Pres Obama as of  Cha   Dec-16-09 11:09 PM   #12 
     - Nah ..... Hope springs eternal. ;) NT  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:10 PM   #15 
     - This white girl makes sweet potato pie.  rebel with a cause   Dec-17-09 09:51 AM   #132 
     - some White girls do...  Raine1967   Dec-17-09 10:04 AM   #133 
  - Ain't that the truth  angee_is_mad   Dec-16-09 11:13 PM   #17 
     - Thanks and I reserve the right...  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:28 PM   #27 
        - OMG  angee_is_mad   Dec-16-09 11:33 PM   #29 
        - Had you never heard those before?  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:36 PM   #33 
           - No I haven't  angee_is_mad   Dec-16-09 11:49 PM   #39 
              - lol, my ancestors would come up out of their gaves....  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:53 PM   #41 
        - heh... wow, those are some great clips.  LooseWilly   Dec-16-09 11:46 PM   #38 
        - Anyone who hasn't LISTENED to "Dreams of my Father"...  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:54 PM   #43 
           - Hmm... noted, but I'll assume those clips aren't from the book. Or, are they?...  LooseWilly   Dec-17-09 12:32 AM   #57 
              - You might want to read the page I liked to...  Clio the Leo   Dec-17-09 08:17 AM   #125 
        - Brilliant.  boppers   Dec-17-09 03:59 AM   #104 
  - Thanks, angee, your  Cha   Dec-16-09 11:00 PM   #4 
  - weeseeyou and Boo  angee_is_mad   Dec-16-09 11:14 PM   #19 
     - Thanks!  Cha   Dec-16-09 11:43 PM   #37 
  - If I wait long enough  xchrom   Dec-16-09 11:02 PM   #5 
  - I'm not black but I'm an Obama supporter. I know there's still  napi21   Dec-16-09 11:03 PM   #7 
  - the Black Progressive perspective  angee_is_mad   Dec-16-09 11:21 PM   #21 
     - Was there any discussion about the Conyers "demeaning" thing?  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:26 PM   #24 
     - He need to spend some time with his wife  angee_is_mad   Dec-16-09 11:35 PM   #32 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-09 05:19 AM   #148 
  - This is about green not about black  eleny   Dec-16-09 11:06 PM   #8 
  - Agreed nt  Luciferous   Dec-16-09 11:30 PM   #28 
  - BS  rebel with a cause   Dec-17-09 10:12 AM   #134 
  - Two Choices  Kalun D   Dec-16-09 11:07 PM   #9 
  - Get use to it. Obama is making his own bed with the elite, Wall Street,  Riverman   Dec-16-09 11:09 PM   #13 
  - I think a lot of the Teabaggers' ferocity in opposing this president is  saltpoint   Dec-16-09 11:13 PM   #18 
  - oh he's not suspect, he's THREATENING...  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:23 PM   #22 
     - He is keen with his smarts, too, which is a kind of associative  saltpoint   Dec-16-09 11:26 PM   #25 
        - Yes but the ONE bit of criticism I have of the man....  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:34 PM   #31 
           - We'd be better off with either Fareed or Keith than we are with  saltpoint   Dec-16-09 11:37 PM   #34 
              - Oh and think about what FUN we'd have...  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:55 PM   #44 
                 - I'm smiling up a storm here.  saltpoint   Dec-16-09 11:57 PM   #45 
                    - ha ha, sounds like heaven! NT  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:58 PM   #47 
  - Thanks Angee....I visit all the time.  firedupdem   Dec-16-09 11:15 PM   #20 
  - ehh....  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:25 PM   #23 
  - DU gets antsy when you mention the "R" word  angee_is_mad   Dec-16-09 11:28 PM   #26 
     - I was about to say the same thing.....  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:50 PM   #40 
     - Someone suggested only the elites like Obama. Who knew 70% of Hispanics were elite?  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 12:57 AM   #61 
     - Being "postracial" doesn't mean denial of any society filled with racism.  boppers   Dec-17-09 04:22 AM   #109 
  - I'll Have to Visit That Site Thanks  PopSixSquish   Dec-16-09 11:33 PM   #30 
  - Your post is very narrowsighted  Ildem09   Dec-16-09 11:38 PM   #35 
  - What?  boppers   Dec-17-09 04:10 AM   #105 
  - Don't Confuse Loss Of Support For This Bill, With Rejection Of Obama  jberryhill   Dec-16-09 11:40 PM   #36 
  - lol, well if you are fervently against this bill...  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 11:57 PM   #46 
  - I agree that in the current electoral system  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 12:02 AM   #48 
  - Are you married?  jberryhill   Dec-17-09 01:00 AM   #62 
     - haha  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 01:10 AM   #66 
     - Oops, my bad...  jberryhill   Dec-17-09 07:17 AM   #113 
     - This is the equivalent of trying to sabotage...  Clio the Leo   Dec-17-09 08:20 AM   #126 
        - Mmmm.... well....  jberryhill   Dec-17-09 08:53 AM   #128 
  - When you have posts like this  angee_is_mad   Dec-17-09 12:05 AM   #49 
  - Progressives are upset  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 12:09 AM   #50 
  - All Progressives?  angee_is_mad   Dec-17-09 12:15 AM   #51 
  - if the poll numbers are right  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 12:24 AM   #53 
     - Well we know some segments of the population  angee_is_mad   Dec-17-09 12:26 AM   #54 
        - True  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 12:32 AM   #56 
  - I feel for any doctor, lawyer, teacher or other professional who has  treestar   Dec-17-09 08:07 AM   #120 
  - The first two of those don't strike me as "Obama hating"  jberryhill   Dec-17-09 08:49 AM   #127 
  - And even if some of us decide to support a primary opponent, it is not a personal..  freddie mertz   Dec-17-09 07:26 AM   #115 
  - Thank You angee_is_mad!  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-09 12:41 AM   #58 
  - We aren't that hard to please  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 12:48 AM   #59 
  - Y'all "Progressives" can be infuriated and everything else.  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-09 12:56 AM   #60 
  - I worked on Grass roots this summer  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 01:05 AM   #64 
  - If Progressives try to take out Obama  angee_is_mad   Dec-17-09 05:54 PM   #140 
  - hi Frenchie  angee_is_mad   Dec-17-09 05:53 PM   #139 
  - If you honestly think this has anything to do with race you're very mistaken.  Fearless   Dec-17-09 01:03 AM   #63 
  - thank you!  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 01:07 AM   #65 
  - And if you think it doesn't, you're sadly mistaken.  suzie   Dec-17-09 01:45 AM   #67 
  - statistically speaking  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 01:49 AM   #68 
  - Statistically speaking, the well-educated white liberals that post on DU  suzie   Dec-17-09 02:37 AM   #86 
     - I'm a Political Scientist  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:40 AM   #87 
  - Not even close. America didn't vote for a black man  Fearless   Dec-17-09 05:39 AM   #111 
  - Why has the decline in support come almost excluslvely from white Dems?  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 02:01 AM   #70 
     - because  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:05 AM   #71 
     - Their proportion doesn't have anything to do with it as each group is judged individually.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 02:08 AM   #72 
        - in regards to proportionality  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:13 AM   #75 
     - also,  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:11 AM   #73 
     - Those figures (the East, etc.) include Democrats and Republicans  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 02:12 AM   #74 
        - well yes  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:15 AM   #76 
           - reading their methedology at the bottom  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:18 AM   #77 
              - I agree with you. That said, this polling also indicates that DU is not necessarily the large  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 02:20 AM   #78 
                 - Forums/Blogs like this  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:22 AM   #79 
                    - I'm angry with some things, happy with some things, confused on others.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 02:24 AM   #80 
                    - what i wanted to say  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:32 AM   #82 
                       - Ahh, I get ya. Sorry for the confusion.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 02:33 AM   #84 
                    - I'd totally disagree with you about getting people on the front lines from the  suzie   Dec-17-09 02:32 AM   #83 
                       - welll  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:37 AM   #85 
                       - "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president...  girl_interrupted   Dec-17-09 02:45 AM   #88 
                          - THANK YOU!  Ildem09   Dec-17-09 02:51 AM   #89 
                             - I don't think anyone is arguing for no criticism.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 02:54 AM   #90 
                             - Nor should they  girl_interrupted   Dec-17-09 03:07 AM   #94 
                                - "Reverse racism?" Please.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 03:09 AM   #95 
                                - Sorry but  girl_interrupted   Dec-17-09 03:16 AM   #97 
                                   - The OP said that if you supported Obama, you would find like minded people in the afrosphere.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 03:18 AM   #98 
                                   - Let me give you an example  girl_interrupted   Dec-17-09 03:48 AM   #102 
                                      - What you posted is completley different from some posts where race is clearly a factor  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 03:50 AM   #103 
                                         - Yes it is different  girl_interrupted   Dec-17-09 04:19 AM   #106 
                                         - Then we are in agreement.  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 04:20 AM   #107 
                                         - Yes we are!  girl_interrupted   Dec-17-09 04:22 AM   #108 
                                   - Here's a nice racist piece from a "progressive" on HuffPo:  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 03:24 AM   #101 
                                      - BLAT!  Undercurrent   Dec-17-09 04:43 AM   #110 
                                      - I have to agree with you on this one. Its a glib, blindly racist POS piece.  freddie mertz   Dec-17-09 07:32 AM   #116 
                                - When Clinton didn't get a health plan through  treestar   Dec-17-09 08:14 AM   #124 
                             - YW!  girl_interrupted   Dec-17-09 02:57 AM   #91 
     - Because of the large number who switched parties during the last election.  Fearless   Dec-17-09 05:40 AM   #112 
  - Only a fool would play the race card !  democracy1st   Dec-17-09 01:58 AM   #69 
  - Oh pleeeze.  Undercurrent   Dec-17-09 03:05 AM   #92 
  - Apparently any mention of race, even a factual one, is "playing the race card".  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 03:12 AM   #96 
  - Thank you!  angee_is_mad   Dec-17-09 06:03 PM   #141 
  - "no attempt by the OP to use race as a wedge issue" Bullshit. Using race period is racism.  timeforpeace   Dec-17-09 06:22 PM   #142 
     - Really?  Undercurrent   Dec-18-09 12:23 AM   #144 
  - Only a racist would act like the quintessential higher standards Obama is being held to is benign  uponit7771   Dec-17-09 08:59 AM   #129 
  - Does this apply to Michael Steele, too?  mr_show_time   Dec-17-09 02:27 AM   #81 
  - Sad that this has so many unrec's  SeattleGirl   Dec-17-09 03:07 AM   #93 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-17-09 08:07 AM   #121 
     - This thread is proof positive that Obama has fucked up big time  Lilith Velkor   Dec-17-09 02:27 PM   #137 
     - Where in the HELL did I imply that?  SeattleGirl   Dec-18-09 01:23 AM   #147 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-09 05:41 AM   #149 
  - Everywhere in the afrosphere except black agenda report  HopeOverFear   Dec-17-09 03:19 AM   #99 
  - I like Field. I don't think he hates Obama. Black Agenda Report is a joke. He claims Obama is  SemiCharmedQuark   Dec-17-09 03:21 AM   #100 
     - Funny how that black agenda report garbage gets posted here  firedupdem   Dec-17-09 08:12 AM   #122 
     - Field Negro claims the same thing, actually.  HopeOverFear   Dec-18-09 12:12 PM   #150 
  - To me it is amazing how racism goes straight to the top  treestar   Dec-17-09 08:03 AM   #119 
  - Obama is not God.  avaistheone1   Dec-17-09 08:14 AM   #123 
  - Exactly, the moneyed elite in this country are using this as their last refuge because  ShortnFiery   Dec-17-09 09:03 AM   #130 
     - and of course must deal with political realities.  JohnnyLib2   Dec-17-09 09:39 AM   #131 
        - Political realities remain the same - these assholes serve corporations and should be kicked out  ShortnFiery   Dec-17-09 11:14 AM   #136 
  - Thanks, Angee for the post. I find it astonishing when some in our party...  kjackson227   Dec-17-09 10:23 AM   #135 
  - I'm still an Obama supporter  mdmc   Dec-17-09 02:29 PM   #138 
     - Yeah, I'd say..  Cha   Dec-18-09 12:26 AM   #145 
 

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