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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:24 PM
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21. I don't believe that the points are provided are being presented in an intellectually honest way

For example everyone has admitted that they cost control mechanism in the plan is the public option and now that is out there will be no real competition and no reason to control costs.

Your point number three is linked to a summary that links to a CBO report on the estimate of the old Senate bill that included the Public Option and dated December 7th.

There has been no public release of the latest Senate proposal and no reason to believe that there will be any effective cost containment at all.

It appears that the person who is making these points is basing it on the old Senate plan with the Public Option. Most of the cost containment benefits, and the justification for the whole bill, have now been eliminated.
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  -The Progressive Case For Passing The Senate Health Bill (updated) ProSense  Dec-16-09 05:50 PM   #0 
  - Oh please. nt  asdjrocky   Dec-16-09 05:51 PM   #1 
  - Blatant shilling. Nothing of value here. Fail.  MNDemNY   Dec-16-09 05:51 PM   #2 
  - Podesta is a shill for the insurance companies.  ProSense   Dec-16-09 05:53 PM   #4 
  - Your blatant shilling of this dog of a bill really needs a break.  MNDemNY   Dec-16-09 05:58 PM   #13 
     - It's good to know that these posts are driving you insane. n/t  ProSense   Dec-16-09 05:59 PM   #15 
        - Oh, I'm quite sane.  MNDemNY   Dec-16-09 06:01 PM   #18 
  - +1 n/t  Laelth   Dec-16-09 06:16 PM   #20 
  - Saddam has WMDs  IndianaGreen   Dec-16-09 05:52 PM   #3 
  - Exactly.  David Zephyr   Dec-16-09 08:20 PM   #26 
  - Hey ProSense, where's that public option you promised me?  freddie mertz   Dec-16-09 05:55 PM   #5 
  - It won't make it back in...  MNDemNY   Dec-16-09 06:00 PM   #16 
  - Pro's paychecks ALWAYS arrive on time. n/t  SaveOurDemocracy   Dec-16-09 06:29 PM   #22 
  - She's quiet about that now, huh?  David Zephyr   Dec-16-09 08:19 PM   #25 
     - Funny, isn't it? nt.  freddie mertz   Dec-16-09 08:20 PM   #27 
  - I would probably vote for it were I in the senate  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-16-09 05:55 PM   #6 
  - with a clear conscience?  DrDan   Dec-16-09 05:57 PM   #12 
  - No. Not at all.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-16-09 06:01 PM   #17 
     - I could never support those mandates  DrDan   Dec-16-09 06:07 PM   #19 
  - I wouldn't.  GreenArrow   Dec-16-09 09:08 PM   #33 
  - This is Podesta, What a surprise.  freddie mertz   Dec-16-09 05:56 PM   #7 
  - A lot of good there but I worry about the uninsured  liberal N proud   Dec-16-09 05:56 PM   #8 
  - this is a joke - right?  DrDan   Dec-16-09 05:56 PM   #9 
  - -->  RUMMYisFROSTED   Dec-16-09 05:57 PM   #10 
  - Good things, all.  Ineeda   Dec-16-09 05:57 PM   #11 
  - They should vote for it.  rwheeler31   Dec-16-09 05:58 PM   #14 
  - I don't believe that the points are provided are being presented in an intellectually honest way  grantcart   Dec-16-09 06:24 PM   #21 
  - Amazes me how these things that we all agreed were so wonderful a week ago...  Clio the Leo   Dec-16-09 07:55 PM   #23 
  - Kill this bill  4dsc   Dec-16-09 08:04 PM   #24 
  - You should be a propagandist. I hope you are being paid well.  David Zephyr   Dec-16-09 08:21 PM   #28 
  - "But you are working the wrong crowd, Obama has lost his halo...Obama is a liar."  ProSense   Dec-16-09 08:54 PM   #31 
  - Look who's yakin''re king of the propagandists on DU, david zephyr.  Cha   Dec-16-09 08:58 PM   #32 
  - lol well in that case it would be a professional opinion lol  grantcart   Dec-16-09 09:18 PM   #36 
  - Care to respond to  ProSense   Dec-16-09 09:16 PM   #35 
  - #3's inaccurate.  burning rain   Dec-16-09 08:53 PM   #29 
  - "They're" in "they're free to continue..." refers to insurance companies.  burning rain   Dec-16-09 10:20 PM   #37 
  - I'm for it. n/t  Popular Front   Dec-16-09 08:53 PM   #30 
  - You forgot one big thing to add to this list  stevenleser   Dec-16-09 09:09 PM   #34 
  - Except the Senate can filibuster a Conference Report, too.  LooseWilly   Dec-16-09 11:19 PM   #39 
  - A dozen strong reasons for rejecting this watered down bill...  Garam_Masala   Dec-16-09 10:27 PM   #38 
  - Sigh... why do I even bother clicking on these posts?  jgraz   Dec-17-09 01:16 AM   #40 

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