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Mon Apr-04-11 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #74 |
| 87. I guess my quibble is with the concept of being "happy" ablout it |
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Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 02:31 PM by Armstead
For many the only real emotion will be "fear" of a complete GOP takeover and, if Obama wins "relief" that we averted disaster.
But that does not include "happy." --Merely resignation to the fact that things will continue to get worse -- only slightly more slowly.
Obama still has time to change that,and give more people more reasons to vote for him in a positive sense (like they did in 08)...But he would have to do some real course corrections in both his message and his governing for that.
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| -2012 Is Going to be Very Difficult for Some of Us |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 08:36 AM |
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But you will vote for and support Obama |
Botany |
Apr-04-11 08:40 AM |
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and that is a sorry reason to support and vote for anyone. |
roguevalley |
Apr-04-11 09:32 AM |
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Just fyi...about 'openly gay' appointments... |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-04-11 09:49 AM |
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As a straight guy i have little idea what the GLBT people .. |
Botany |
Apr-04-11 09:59 AM |
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But you do get my point, don't you? |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-04-11 10:19 AM |
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I understand your points and I wish I could hurry things ... |
Botany |
Apr-04-11 11:16 AM |
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It took black Americans many decades before receving full citizenship rights. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 03:28 PM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Apr-04-11 08:42 AM |
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You are very smart. If people don't like Obama, I understand that. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 01:22 PM |
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Yes, the reality is that the next president will either be Obama or the Republican nominee. |
elocs |
Apr-04-11 08:42 AM |
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Agreed. |
Vogon_Glory |
Apr-04-11 08:55 AM |
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Simply put, a very crucial message.... |
teachthemwell15 |
Apr-04-11 09:07 AM |
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What do you want a Democracy or a Plutocracy ? |
Tippy |
Apr-04-11 08:46 AM |
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Power is provided by wealth in this country. I am sorry to say, but it's true. |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 08:51 AM |
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and he will every nickel because of Citizen's United |
Botany |
Apr-04-11 08:57 AM |
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Is that a trick question? |
earthside |
Apr-04-11 09:02 AM |
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We gave this president a bunch of Blue Dog Democrats and expected them to vote like |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 01:24 PM |
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Watching what the republicans are trying to do with |
shraby |
Apr-04-11 08:46 AM |
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Pres. Obama will again destroy down ballot Dem. candidates like 2010. |
MrTriumph |
Apr-04-11 08:50 AM |
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This is NOT Obama's fault! He was faced with jobloss the likes of which we haven't seen |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 01:27 PM |
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So the campaign slogan should be, "Well, it could be worse!" Sheesh. |
MrTriumph |
Apr-04-11 05:53 PM |
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I am unhappy with Obama but will vote for the dem whoever that is. |
rosesaylavee |
Apr-04-11 08:57 AM |
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It's good to see that some people here at DU actually... |
vduhr |
Apr-04-11 12:12 PM |
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They also are very foolish in that they don't understand very fundamental |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 01:30 PM |
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Am curious but know there is no way possible to find out |
rosesaylavee |
Apr-04-11 02:40 PM |
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We are up the creek without a paddle. |
Autumn |
Apr-04-11 09:00 AM |
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Sadly, I'm right there with you |
MissDeeds |
Apr-04-11 09:06 AM |
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I think you are missing a large part of why things weren't done..... |
jaxx |
Apr-04-11 09:08 AM |
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Well that one man could help on DOMA by not opposing equality |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-04-11 10:04 AM |
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+1 |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 10:18 AM |
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The President:: |
jaxx |
Apr-04-11 10:21 AM |
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My understanding is the president has stated repeatedly that his views on that issue are |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 01:35 PM |
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To add to that, if the left and the liberals works hard |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Apr-04-11 02:13 PM |
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Excellent summation of the past two years! |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Apr-04-11 10:06 AM |
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+1 |
young but wise |
Apr-04-11 10:08 AM |
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I would add two more things to that. The creation of an entire astroturf movement AND the withering |
stevenleser |
Apr-04-11 10:58 AM |
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He didn't try though -- That is the key |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 12:26 PM |
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He did try. And kept trying until a bill was passed. |
jaxx |
Apr-04-11 12:46 PM |
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The point, again, isd that he failed to try....The crummy bill was almost worse than nothing |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 01:05 PM |
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There will be subsidies for those meeting the income guidelines. |
jaxx |
Apr-04-11 01:26 PM |
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Give him MORE, not LESS progressives who will vote like Bernie Sanders, and I'm with you. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 03:02 PM |
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I agree....to sn extent |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 04:06 PM |
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I'm with you! There are great progressives in the Senate like Tom Harkin |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 04:13 PM |
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YAWN !! |
lamp_shade |
Apr-04-11 09:42 AM |
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Thanks for your belittling remark. |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 09:48 AM |
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YAWN!! +1 |
Tarheel_Dem |
Apr-04-11 10:27 AM |
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K and R |
OwnedByFerrets |
Apr-04-11 09:56 AM |
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this is not a snark. |
cliffordu |
Apr-04-11 10:23 AM |
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Thank you! +1 |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 10:24 AM |
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Almost all of your disappointments were created by Congress |
jeff47 |
Apr-04-11 10:24 AM |
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That is not my assessment or the evidence I have given. |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 10:25 AM |
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The President is not all-powerful. |
jeff47 |
Apr-04-11 10:34 AM |
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The President is the head of the Democratic Party. |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 10:37 AM |
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So make him change. |
jeff47 |
Apr-04-11 10:51 AM |
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One person cannot make him change. |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 10:58 AM |
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Those 60 million are made up of individual persons |
jeff47 |
Apr-04-11 11:05 AM |
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Can't hurt. |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 11:11 AM |
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When people try to get him to change they afre called "Obama haters" |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 12:31 PM |
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People resist change?!?! Golly, who wouldda thunk? |
jeff47 |
Apr-04-11 01:21 PM |
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he's never going to call me names personally -- I'm a nobody. But... |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 05:18 PM |
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Again, so what? |
jeff47 |
Apr-05-11 09:52 AM |
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Thank you. I don't know why this is so difficult for Fearless to see. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 04:06 PM |
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Wow, Congress must be forging Obama's signature too then. nt |
NorthCarolina |
Apr-04-11 10:58 AM |
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He can only sign the bills they pass |
jeff47 |
Apr-04-11 11:04 AM |
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I think you missed the point; that being 'he doesn't Have to sign them'. |
NorthCarolina |
Apr-04-11 05:45 PM |
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But if we can get you and others to understand that the problem was and has always been |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 03:25 PM |
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Bluedogs have stopped him from ideologically supporting points of view? |
Fearless |
Apr-06-11 09:58 AM |
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"I just do not know what I am going to do." Uhhh... |
Tarheel_Dem |
Apr-04-11 10:31 AM |
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The president must be 35 or older as per the US Constitution. |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 10:38 AM |
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Apr-04-11 10:42 AM |
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The quote of mine you made was in regards to what to do at the ballot |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 10:45 AM |
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If you thought that was a personal attack, then you certainly don't have... |
Tarheel_Dem |
Apr-04-11 11:00 AM |
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Way up there on the snark-o-meter. |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 11:13 AM |
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That's a meaningless response -- Not everyone is cut out to be a politician |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 12:35 PM |
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Excellent post, Fearless. I will vote Obama, despite the disappointments... |
Rabblevox |
Apr-04-11 10:39 AM |
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Quite an excellent, honest OP. I believe your sentiments are reflective of a majority of Dems |
NorthCarolina |
Apr-04-11 10:55 AM |
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I would say its the majority of people on DU, not a majority of Democrats. All the polls suggest |
stevenleser |
Apr-04-11 11:11 AM |
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I doubt its even a majority of DUers |
onenote |
Apr-04-11 12:17 PM |
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Well, a majority of those that are still here and havent left in disgust at some of their DU peers. |
stevenleser |
Apr-04-11 11:55 PM |
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Agreed. The most discontent from anyone on the Left I've heard has been here. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
Apr-04-11 02:36 PM |
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The majority of dems? Really? Yathink? |
lamp_shade |
Apr-04-11 12:05 PM |
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I know what I'm not going to do |
whatchamacallit |
Apr-04-11 11:09 AM |
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It isn't all on the President. Get Teabaggers, Wingnuts and Blue Dogs out of Congress. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
Apr-04-11 11:21 AM |
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Most of the votes for "President" will have ZERO effect ... |
bvar22 |
Apr-04-11 11:46 AM |
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could you elaborate? |
onenote |
Apr-04-11 12:20 PM |
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You sound smart and your post is nicely done..... |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-04-11 11:51 AM |
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Well said!!!! |
vduhr |
Apr-04-11 12:19 PM |
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"Me, I'll blame all of this nation's citizens," Well, thanks for blaming the victims. We happen to |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-04-11 12:38 PM |
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The fact is clear in your response, |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-04-11 01:08 PM |
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I agree, Frenchie. No, I don't agree with everything but I'll be |
Fire1 |
Apr-04-11 03:31 PM |
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Thanks, FC, as always. I just think it's royally fucked up that out of anger, |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 04:30 PM |
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Thanks, FC, as always. I just think it's royally fucked up that out of anger, |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 04:30 PM |
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+1 n/t |
politicasista |
Apr-04-11 04:47 PM |
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It is not just one man, it is his enablers as well. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-04-11 08:54 PM |
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Unfortunately, I share your sentiments. |
archiemo |
Apr-04-11 12:01 PM |
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The other side of the coin is that a tea bag presidency may lead to |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-04-11 12:34 PM |
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I guess you could teach Obama a lesson and not vote. |
ReturnoftheDjedi |
Apr-04-11 12:46 PM |
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Trust me, you are going to vote Obama and LOVE doing it! |
Township75 |
Apr-04-11 01:03 PM |
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The downward nature of that cycle is why many of us are so frustrated |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 01:11 PM |
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+1 |
Fearless |
Apr-04-11 01:13 PM |
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Im with you dude, |
Township75 |
Apr-04-11 01:17 PM |
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I guess my quibble is with the concept of being "happy" ablout it |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 02:30 PM |
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I think you're wrong. Obama has been the most progressive Democratic president |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 04:39 PM |
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+1 |
dionysus |
Apr-04-11 07:11 PM |
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as a long time DUer, you jogged my memory. the Dean\Kerry wars (i liked Dean) |
dionysus |
Apr-04-11 07:10 PM |
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Sorry. Won't happen. nt |
Lorien |
Apr-04-11 10:23 PM |
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If you're worried now, let the Republicans take over the Senate and the presidency, too, |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 01:18 PM |
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k/r |
emilyg |
Apr-04-11 01:30 PM |
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The GOP's goal all along has been to block Obama at every turn ... |
JoePhilly |
Apr-04-11 01:59 PM |
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I've been waiting patiently for you to come up in here and drop some knowledge! |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 04:48 PM |
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Apr-04-11 01:59 PM |
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i think |
DemocratAholic |
Apr-04-11 02:38 PM |
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+1 The politics that breeds cynicism is as big a threat as the GOP strategies |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 02:46 PM |
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But that's what the Republicans want you to think. And by and large, they have suceeded. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 04:59 PM |
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I want liberal bumpersticker slogans |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 05:11 PM |
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I've had the distinct pleasure of meeting Bernie many times. I am a Sanders Democrat. |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Apr-04-11 10:13 PM |
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You hit the nail on the head |
Armstead |
Apr-04-11 11:00 PM |
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Apr-04-11 07:14 PM |
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Bill Maher: "...the difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy". |
CakeGrrl |
Apr-04-11 02:40 PM |
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Very well said - and about health care |
democrat2thecore |
Apr-04-11 03:18 PM |
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Door 1 and door 2 will lead to the same place? Really? |
Mass |
Apr-04-11 03:39 PM |
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I only have one good reason left to vote for Obama. |
Efilroft Sul |
Apr-04-11 04:01 PM |
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Me too. |
DH of Oregon |
Apr-04-11 04:42 PM |
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My advice: YouTube Rachel Maddow for the HUGE list of Obama's PROGRESSIVE accomplishments.SLAM DUNK! |
RBInMaine |
Apr-04-11 05:29 PM |
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It's a small world we have the same degrees. |
craigmatic |
Apr-04-11 06:22 PM |
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If still don't know, that's pretty sad. |
Ikonoklast |
Apr-04-11 06:45 PM |
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Whoever runs to the Left of Obama has my vote |
Lorien |
Apr-04-11 10:22 PM |
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Good luck with that! |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-04-11 11:28 PM |
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Run For Office... |
graceastrology |
Apr-04-11 11:38 PM |
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The election is over now. The republicans are assured a win... |
Safetykitten |
Apr-04-11 11:52 PM |
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If you cannot see the difference between the tea party and the Democrats..t here is nothing |
Peacetrain |
Apr-05-11 10:26 AM |
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really too funny. oh my that evil President Obama has let us all |
okieinpain |
Apr-05-11 03:43 PM |
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Apr-06-11 10:11 PM |
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It really isn't difficult at all |
quaker bill |
Apr-06-11 11:08 PM |
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more like "Clueless".. |
DCBob |
Apr-06-11 11:10 PM |
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Unfortunately |
LatteLibertine |
Apr-07-11 08:25 AM |
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