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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 10:51 AM
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40. So make him change.
FDR: "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it."

Elect Democrats to Congress that are to the left of Obama. That will drive his policies leftward. And in your particular case, you need to make Scott Brown lose sleep at night.

Meanwhile, you need to elect better Democrats to local and state office, because they become the next generation of Congresspeople.

Look, we've had 30 years of rampant corporatism running our government. One election can not fix that, no matter how great an orator is elected President. That election is just one battle. This will be a long war.

But liberalism always wins in the end. Yes, there are setbacks. They can even be decades-long setbacks. And the rate of change can be extremely frustrating. But stopping the fight just means longer setbacks.
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  -2012 Is Going to be Very Difficult for Some of Us Fearless  Apr-04-11 08:36 AM   #0 
  - But you will vote for and support Obama  Botany   Apr-04-11 08:40 AM   #1 
  - and that is a sorry reason to support and vote for anyone.  roguevalley   Apr-04-11 09:32 AM   #16 
  - Just fyi...about 'openly gay' appointments...  Bluenorthwest   Apr-04-11 09:49 AM   #19 
     - As a straight guy i have little idea what the GLBT people ..  Botany   Apr-04-11 09:59 AM   #21 
        - But you do get my point, don't you?  Bluenorthwest   Apr-04-11 10:19 AM   #26 
           - I understand your points and I wish I could hurry things ...  Botany   Apr-04-11 11:16 AM   #52 
              - It took black Americans many decades before receving full citizenship rights.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 03:28 PM   #96 
  - recommend  xchrom   Apr-04-11 08:42 AM   #2 
  - You are very smart. If people don't like Obama, I understand that.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 01:22 PM   #77 
  - Yes, the reality is that the next president will either be Obama or the Republican nominee.  elocs   Apr-04-11 08:42 AM   #3 
  - Agreed.  Vogon_Glory   Apr-04-11 08:55 AM   #8 
  - Simply put, a very crucial message....  teachthemwell15   Apr-04-11 09:07 AM   #14 
  - What do you want a Democracy or a Plutocracy ?  Tippy   Apr-04-11 08:46 AM   #4 
  - Power is provided by wealth in this country. I am sorry to say, but it's true.  Fearless   Apr-04-11 08:51 AM   #7 
  - and he will every nickel because of Citizen's United  Botany   Apr-04-11 08:57 AM   #10 
  - Is that a trick question?  earthside   Apr-04-11 09:02 AM   #12 
     - We gave this president a bunch of Blue Dog Democrats and expected them to vote like  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 01:24 PM   #78 
  - Watching what the republicans are trying to do with  shraby   Apr-04-11 08:46 AM   #5 
  - Pres. Obama will again destroy down ballot Dem. candidates like 2010.  MrTriumph   Apr-04-11 08:50 AM   #6 
  - This is NOT Obama's fault! He was faced with jobloss the likes of which we haven't seen  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 01:27 PM   #80 
     - So the campaign slogan should be, "Well, it could be worse!" Sheesh.  MrTriumph   Apr-04-11 05:53 PM   #114 
  - I am unhappy with Obama but will vote for the dem whoever that is.  rosesaylavee   Apr-04-11 08:57 AM   #9 
  - It's good to see that some people here at DU actually...  vduhr   Apr-04-11 12:12 PM   #58 
     - They also are very foolish in that they don't understand very fundamental  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 01:30 PM   #81 
     - Am curious but know there is no way possible to find out  rosesaylavee   Apr-04-11 02:40 PM   #90 
  - We are up the creek without a paddle.  Autumn   Apr-04-11 09:00 AM   #11 
  - Sadly, I'm right there with you  MissDeeds   Apr-04-11 09:06 AM   #13 
  - I think you are missing a large part of why things weren't done.....  jaxx   Apr-04-11 09:08 AM   #15 
  - Well that one man could help on DOMA by not opposing equality  Bluenorthwest   Apr-04-11 10:04 AM   #22 
  - +1  Fearless   Apr-04-11 10:18 AM   #25 
  - The President::  jaxx   Apr-04-11 10:21 AM   #27 
  - My understanding is the president has stated repeatedly that his views on that issue are  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 01:35 PM   #83 
     - To add to that, if the left and the liberals works hard  Bodhi BloodWave   Apr-04-11 02:13 PM   #86 
  - Excellent summation of the past two years!  Proud Liberal Dem   Apr-04-11 10:06 AM   #23 
  - +1  young but wise   Apr-04-11 10:08 AM   #24 
  - I would add two more things to that. The creation of an entire astroturf movement AND the withering  stevenleser   Apr-04-11 10:58 AM   #42 
  - He didn't try though -- That is the key  Armstead   Apr-04-11 12:26 PM   #62 
     - He did try. And kept trying until a bill was passed.  jaxx   Apr-04-11 12:46 PM   #68 
        - The point, again, isd that he failed to try....The crummy bill was almost worse than nothing  Armstead   Apr-04-11 01:05 PM   #70 
           - There will be subsidies for those meeting the income guidelines.  jaxx   Apr-04-11 01:26 PM   #79 
           - Give him MORE, not LESS progressives who will vote like Bernie Sanders, and I'm with you.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 03:02 PM   #93 
              - I agree....to sn extent  Armstead   Apr-04-11 04:06 PM   #100 
                 - I'm with you! There are great progressives in the Senate like Tom Harkin  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 04:13 PM   #102 
  - YAWN !!  lamp_shade   Apr-04-11 09:42 AM   #17 
  - Thanks for your belittling remark.  Fearless   Apr-04-11 09:48 AM   #18 
  - YAWN!! +1  Tarheel_Dem   Apr-04-11 10:27 AM   #32 
  - K and R  OwnedByFerrets   Apr-04-11 09:56 AM   #20 
  - this is not a snark.  cliffordu   Apr-04-11 10:23 AM   #28 
  - Thank you! +1  Fearless   Apr-04-11 10:24 AM   #30 
  - Almost all of your disappointments were created by Congress  jeff47   Apr-04-11 10:24 AM   #29 
  - That is not my assessment or the evidence I have given.  Fearless   Apr-04-11 10:25 AM   #31 
     - The President is not all-powerful.  jeff47   Apr-04-11 10:34 AM   #34 
     - The President is the head of the Democratic Party.  Fearless   Apr-04-11 10:37 AM   #35 
     - So make him change.  jeff47   Apr-04-11 10:51 AM   #40 
        - One person cannot make him change.  Fearless   Apr-04-11 10:58 AM   #43 
        - Those 60 million are made up of individual persons  jeff47   Apr-04-11 11:05 AM   #47 
           - Can't hurt.  Fearless   Apr-04-11 11:11 AM   #50 
           - When people try to get him to change they afre called "Obama haters"  Armstead   Apr-04-11 12:31 PM   #63 
              - People resist change?!?! Golly, who wouldda thunk?  jeff47   Apr-04-11 01:21 PM   #76 
                 - he's never going to call me names personally -- I'm a nobody. But...  Armstead   Apr-04-11 05:18 PM   #111 
                    - Again, so what?  jeff47   Apr-05-11 09:52 AM   #129 
        - Thank you. I don't know why this is so difficult for Fearless to see.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 04:06 PM   #101 
     - Wow, Congress must be forging Obama's signature too then. nt  NorthCarolina   Apr-04-11 10:58 AM   #44 
        - He can only sign the bills they pass  jeff47   Apr-04-11 11:04 AM   #46 
           - I think you missed the point; that being 'he doesn't Have to sign them'.  NorthCarolina   Apr-04-11 05:45 PM   #113 
     - But if we can get you and others to understand that the problem was and has always been  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 03:25 PM   #95 
        - Bluedogs have stopped him from ideologically supporting points of view?  Fearless   Apr-06-11 09:58 AM   #132 
  - "I just do not know what I am going to do." Uhhh...  Tarheel_Dem   Apr-04-11 10:31 AM   #33 
  - The president must be 35 or older as per the US Constitution.  Fearless   Apr-04-11 10:38 AM   #36 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-04-11 10:42 AM   #38 
     - The quote of mine you made was in regards to what to do at the ballot  Fearless   Apr-04-11 10:45 AM   #39 
        - If you thought that was a personal attack, then you certainly don't have...  Tarheel_Dem   Apr-04-11 11:00 AM   #45 
           - Way up there on the snark-o-meter.  Fearless   Apr-04-11 11:13 AM   #51 
  - That's a meaningless response -- Not everyone is cut out to be a politician  Armstead   Apr-04-11 12:35 PM   #65 
  - Excellent post, Fearless. I will vote Obama, despite the disappointments...  Rabblevox   Apr-04-11 10:39 AM   #37 
  - Quite an excellent, honest OP. I believe your sentiments are reflective of a majority of Dems  NorthCarolina   Apr-04-11 10:55 AM   #41 
  - I would say its the majority of people on DU, not a majority of Democrats. All the polls suggest  stevenleser   Apr-04-11 11:11 AM   #49 
  - I doubt its even a majority of DUers  onenote   Apr-04-11 12:17 PM   #59 
  - Well, a majority of those that are still here and havent left in disgust at some of their DU peers.  stevenleser   Apr-04-11 11:55 PM   #128 
  - Agreed. The most discontent from anyone on the Left I've heard has been here. n/t  CakeGrrl   Apr-04-11 02:36 PM   #88 
  - The majority of dems? Really? Yathink?  lamp_shade   Apr-04-11 12:05 PM   #57 
  - I know what I'm not going to do  whatchamacallit   Apr-04-11 11:09 AM   #48 
  - It isn't all on the President. Get Teabaggers, Wingnuts and Blue Dogs out of Congress. n/t  CakeGrrl   Apr-04-11 11:21 AM   #53 
  - Most of the votes for "President" will have ZERO effect ...  bvar22   Apr-04-11 11:46 AM   #54 
  - could you elaborate?  onenote   Apr-04-11 12:20 PM   #61 
  - You sound smart and your post is nicely done.....  FrenchieCat   Apr-04-11 11:51 AM   #55 
  - Well said!!!!  vduhr   Apr-04-11 12:19 PM   #60 
  - "Me, I'll blame all of this nation's citizens," Well, thanks for blaming the victims. We happen to  grahamhgreen   Apr-04-11 12:38 PM   #66 
     - The fact is clear in your response,  FrenchieCat   Apr-04-11 01:08 PM   #71 
        - I agree, Frenchie. No, I don't agree with everything but I'll be  Fire1   Apr-04-11 03:31 PM   #97 
        - Thanks, FC, as always. I just think it's royally fucked up that out of anger,  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 04:30 PM   #103 
        - Thanks, FC, as always. I just think it's royally fucked up that out of anger,  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 04:30 PM   #104 
        - +1 n/t  politicasista   Apr-04-11 04:47 PM   #107 
        - It is not just one man, it is his enablers as well.  grahamhgreen   Apr-04-11 08:54 PM   #120 
  - Unfortunately, I share your sentiments.  archiemo   Apr-04-11 12:01 PM   #56 
  - The other side of the coin is that a tea bag presidency may lead to  grahamhgreen   Apr-04-11 12:34 PM   #64 
  - I guess you could teach Obama a lesson and not vote.  ReturnoftheDjedi   Apr-04-11 12:46 PM   #67 
  - Trust me, you are going to vote Obama and LOVE doing it!  Township75   Apr-04-11 01:03 PM   #69 
  - The downward nature of that cycle is why many of us are so frustrated  Armstead   Apr-04-11 01:11 PM   #72 
  - +1  Fearless   Apr-04-11 01:13 PM   #73 
  - Im with you dude,  Township75   Apr-04-11 01:17 PM   #74 
  - I guess my quibble is with the concept of being "happy" ablout it  Armstead   Apr-04-11 02:30 PM   #87 
  - I think you're wrong. Obama has been the most progressive Democratic president  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 04:39 PM   #105 
     - +1  dionysus   Apr-04-11 07:11 PM   #118 
  - as a long time DUer, you jogged my memory. the Dean\Kerry wars (i liked Dean)  dionysus   Apr-04-11 07:10 PM   #117 
  - Sorry. Won't happen. nt  Lorien   Apr-04-11 10:23 PM   #123 
  - If you're worried now, let the Republicans take over the Senate and the presidency, too,  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 01:18 PM   #75 
  - k/r  emilyg   Apr-04-11 01:30 PM   #82 
  - The GOP's goal all along has been to block Obama at every turn ...  JoePhilly   Apr-04-11 01:59 PM   #84 
  - I've been waiting patiently for you to come up in here and drop some knowledge!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 04:48 PM   #108 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-04-11 01:59 PM   #85 
  - i think  DemocratAholic   Apr-04-11 02:38 PM   #89 
  - +1 The politics that breeds cynicism is as big a threat as the GOP strategies  Armstead   Apr-04-11 02:46 PM   #92 
  - But that's what the Republicans want you to think. And by and large, they have suceeded.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 04:59 PM   #109 
     - I want liberal bumpersticker slogans  Armstead   Apr-04-11 05:11 PM   #110 
        - I've had the distinct pleasure of meeting Bernie many times. I am a Sanders Democrat.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-04-11 10:13 PM   #121 
           - You hit the nail on the head  Armstead   Apr-04-11 11:00 PM   #124 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-04-11 07:14 PM   #119 
  - Bill Maher: "...the difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy".  CakeGrrl   Apr-04-11 02:40 PM   #91 
  - Very well said - and about health care  democrat2thecore   Apr-04-11 03:18 PM   #94 
  - Door 1 and door 2 will lead to the same place? Really?  Mass   Apr-04-11 03:39 PM   #98 
  - I only have one good reason left to vote for Obama.  Efilroft Sul   Apr-04-11 04:01 PM   #99 
  - Me too.  DH of Oregon   Apr-04-11 04:42 PM   #106 
  - My advice: YouTube Rachel Maddow for the HUGE list of Obama's PROGRESSIVE accomplishments.SLAM DUNK!  RBInMaine   Apr-04-11 05:29 PM   #112 
  - It's a small world we have the same degrees.  craigmatic   Apr-04-11 06:22 PM   #115 
  - If still don't know, that's pretty sad.  Ikonoklast   Apr-04-11 06:45 PM   #116 
  - Whoever runs to the Left of Obama has my vote  Lorien   Apr-04-11 10:22 PM   #122 
  - Good luck with that!  FrenchieCat   Apr-04-11 11:28 PM   #125 
  - Run For Office...  graceastrology   Apr-04-11 11:38 PM   #126 
  - The election is over now. The republicans are assured a win...  Safetykitten   Apr-04-11 11:52 PM   #127 
  - If you cannot see the difference between the tea party and the Democrats..t here is nothing  Peacetrain   Apr-05-11 10:26 AM   #130 
  - really too funny. oh my that evil President Obama has let us all  okieinpain   Apr-05-11 03:43 PM   #131 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-06-11 10:11 PM   #133 
  - It really isn't difficult at all  quaker bill   Apr-06-11 11:08 PM   #134 
  - more like "Clueless"..  DCBob   Apr-06-11 11:10 PM   #135 
  - Unfortunately  LatteLibertine   Apr-07-11 08:25 AM   #136 
 

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