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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:00 PM
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54. You definitely know from "over-the-top".
"saying nothing" isn't "over-the-top"? How can you, in good conscience, make such a false statement? Seems that DU's activists are so anxious to lay the blame for the current state of things at the feet of the WH, and not the actual voters, themselves.

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Every state that's now experiencing aggressive union busting voted overwhelmingly for the Repubs in the last election, and they now have to live with the consequences. I don't feel sorry for them. "You snooze, you lose". If they thought they were "disappointed" before the midterms, stripping workers' rights is only the beginning.

As far as all the other nonsensical claims in your post, I'll leave that to you & your own truth meter. :eyes:
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  -"This whole "Teach Obama a Lesson" thing is working so perfectly, isn't it?" obamafourmore  Mar-10-11 07:04 AM   #0 
  - Yeah, we're so much better off with the Rethugs now empowered.  pnwmom   Mar-10-11 07:06 AM   #1 
  - People didn't HAVE to vote any way but they way they wanted to.  Fearless   Mar-10-11 10:23 AM   #31 
  - Yeah, they wanted to after swallowing Nader's lies. n/t  pnwmom   Mar-10-11 01:42 PM   #71 
  - Oh so true. After all the Union are still intact..oh wait...  Lastactiongyro   Mar-10-11 03:42 PM   #90 
     - It's not the Democrats who are attacking the unions.  pnwmom   Mar-10-11 03:49 PM   #94 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-11 07:06 AM   #2 
  - Yes, people can continue to act like there is no difference between the parties  qanda   Mar-10-11 07:11 AM   #3 
  - the less daylight there is between the parties, the harder it's going to be to whip up enthusiasm  yurbud   Mar-10-11 10:37 AM   #34 
  - I see a HUGE Horizon between the parties!  barbiegeek   Mar-13-11 05:56 PM   #132 
  - Yep. Exactly.  Zoeisright   Mar-10-11 02:18 PM   #75 
  - unrec  xchrom   Mar-10-11 07:12 AM   #4 
  - I don't think the last election had anything to  Autumn   Mar-10-11 07:13 AM   #5 
  - Bingo  Armstead   Mar-10-11 10:19 AM   #29 
  - Ed is asshole  sellitman   Mar-10-11 07:14 AM   #6 
  - I'll take Ed over Limpballs any day. n/t  fasttense   Mar-10-11 07:16 AM   #9 
  - Ding! Ding! Ding! Ed's a fake. How do folks like Schulz, Cenk & Arianna...  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 10:50 AM   #38 
     - The Easy $$$$$ is being a blowhard Conservative.  Armstead   Mar-10-11 11:58 AM   #53 
     - Cenk was a Rethug?  Wabbajack_   Mar-11-11 04:30 AM   #121 
     - Yep.  namahage   Mar-11-11 09:55 AM   #123 
     - Schulz, Cenk, Arianna are not fakes  Kalun D   Mar-13-11 04:57 PM   #130 
  - You got the wrong lesson for Obama.  fasttense   Mar-10-11 07:14 AM   #7 
  - That's the lesson you THINK you're teaching  BklnDem75   Mar-10-11 08:00 AM   #15 
  - How to fight back without support?  treestar   Mar-10-11 08:23 AM   #20 
  - He started his term with all the support any President could hope for  ThomCat   Mar-10-11 09:49 AM   #25 
     - He didn't have all the support he needed.  rury   Mar-10-11 10:15 AM   #28 
        - He started his term with more support, more cheering crowds,  ThomCat   Mar-10-11 11:03 AM   #42 
        - President Obama and the progressive and moderate Democrats got the car out of the ditch and got...  rpannier   Mar-10-11 06:02 PM   #104 
  - Yet, it is a lesson he keeps ignoring. He keeps doing NOTHING for people  ThomCat   Mar-10-11 09:46 AM   #24 
  - Maybe the Admin and those in Congress should have thought about their behavior  rpannier   Mar-10-11 07:16 AM   #8 
  - So to teach the Administration a lesson,  BklnDem75   Mar-10-11 08:05 AM   #17 
  - That is such a straw man and you know it.  zalinda   Mar-10-11 10:40 AM   #35 
     - The bigger fallacy is comparing turnout...  BklnDem75   Mar-10-11 11:57 AM   #52 
        - That's the strawman  zalinda   Mar-10-11 12:26 PM   #63 
           - That's an amazing gift you have there.  BklnDem75   Mar-10-11 12:53 PM   #66 
           - And so does your teaching dems and Obama  zalinda   Mar-10-11 02:41 PM   #79 
              - It's not my meme  BklnDem75   Mar-10-11 03:58 PM   #96 
                 - You don't fight it, you spread it n/t  zalinda   Mar-11-11 01:51 AM   #119 
                    - lol you got it backwards  BklnDem75   Mar-11-11 03:54 PM   #124 
           - Exactly so. The fallacy doesn't get any more convincing no matter how it's spun, does it?  DirkGently   Mar-10-11 03:37 PM   #89 
           - "Not as bad as the Republicans, is not cutting it anymore."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Mar-13-11 11:29 AM   #126 
  - Vote. Don't Vote. It's a choice. But at the end of the day, the people  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 10:54 AM   #39 
  - +1  kjackson227   Mar-10-11 01:00 PM   #67 
  - Exactly. "Punishing" the President is a ridiculous concept.  CakeGrrl   Mar-10-11 01:42 PM   #70 
     - Exactly. And now "progressives" are screaming for Obama to save these  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 01:56 PM   #72 
        - more FACTS? facts are.. facts are... fighting woids..... PUT UP YER DUKES!1!11!  dionysus   Mar-10-11 06:00 PM   #103 
        - Truer words have never been spoken...  kjackson227   Mar-14-11 01:18 PM   #134 
  - Feh  Teaser   Mar-10-11 11:26 AM   #48 
     - Very true  rpannier   Mar-10-11 05:39 PM   #100 
  - So the 15%'ers are to blame. We must be the most powerful group in intertube history!  Pholus   Mar-10-11 07:32 AM   #10 
  - 15% is definitely enough to give Repukes close elections.  WolfoftheWild   Mar-10-11 03:27 PM   #84 
     - But aren't all these rightward moves are supposed to bring in droves of independents,  Pholus   Mar-10-11 04:27 PM   #98 
  - Jesus!  Keith Bee   Mar-10-11 07:33 AM   #11 
  - I don't think it was anything so deliberate.  Deep13   Mar-10-11 07:43 AM   #12 
  - Yes, Ed was wrong  Meshuga   Mar-10-11 07:44 AM   #13 
  - How many times  PATRICK   Mar-10-11 07:48 AM   #14 
  - In two years  obamafourmore   Mar-10-11 08:01 AM   #16 
  - probably the smartest DU post of all time....  dennis4868   Mar-10-11 08:06 AM   #19 
  - Exactly, they expect a progressive President to do it all  treestar   Mar-10-11 08:26 AM   #21 
  - Not to mention a conservative majority on the USSC that opened the floodgates...  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 10:57 AM   #40 
     - And which party chose to allow the GOP to install those SC Justices without a fight?  Armstead   Mar-10-11 12:22 PM   #61 
        - Remember that ruling from Justice Harriet Miers?  BklnDem75   Mar-11-11 12:06 AM   #110 
           - IIRC, Miers being pulled from consideration  last_texas_dem   Mar-11-11 12:52 AM   #116 
  - No,That is repeating erroneous conventional wisdom that is defeatist  Armstead   Mar-10-11 10:29 AM   #32 
     - I must question your sanity if you think Bernie Sanders has a shot in hell of ever being President  WolfoftheWild   Mar-10-11 03:30 PM   #87 
     - And he never said that  rpannier   Mar-10-11 05:45 PM   #101 
     - He doesn't because of the attitude of defeatists like you  Armstead   Mar-10-11 05:47 PM   #102 
     - dupe  WolfoftheWild   Mar-10-11 03:30 PM   #88 
  - this massive Ship of Greed has been sailing for eternity  Whisp   Mar-10-11 11:59 PM   #109 
  - Complete, unadulterated, utter, bullshit...  truebrit71   Mar-13-11 04:40 PM   #128 
  - America doesn't want to acknowledge  LWolf   Mar-10-11 08:06 AM   #18 
  - Maybe it was the Obama supporters from '08 who stayed home b/c he wasn't on the ballot.  CrossChris   Mar-10-11 09:36 AM   #22 
  - Obama is praying that a general strike isn't called in Wisconsin  brentspeak   Mar-10-11 09:41 AM   #23 
  - Indeed, he has not learned the lesson yet.  Bonobo   Mar-10-11 10:01 AM   #26 
  - Certainly is, the car went over the cliff.  Historic NY   Mar-10-11 10:06 AM   #27 
  - Ouch. I didn't know Ed said that, fail!  flamingdem   Mar-10-11 10:22 AM   #30 
  - many young and new voters didn't return because they were naive  certainot   Mar-10-11 10:36 AM   #33 
  - in 2000, it was ''blame Nader,'' now corporate Dems have expanded it to blame everyone to the left  yurbud   Mar-10-11 10:41 AM   #36 
  - You got it  Armstead   Mar-10-11 12:50 PM   #65 
  - This whole "Screw the base" thing is working so perfectly, isn't it?  ljm2002   Mar-10-11 10:45 AM   #37 
  - +1 n/t  whatchamacallit   Mar-10-11 11:00 AM   #41 
  - "What if President Obama had listened to Ed Schultz, Kucinich, Howard Dean,"  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 11:08 AM   #43 
  - I don't give a shit about post presidential Obama  Hawkowl   Mar-10-11 11:16 AM   #45 
  - Well, nearly 90% of us (Democrats) disagree with you. Hopefully,  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 11:20 AM   #46 
     - You love those false choices don't you?  Armstead   Mar-10-11 12:10 PM   #58 
  - Good grief...  ljm2002   Mar-10-11 11:45 AM   #51 
     - You definitely know from "over-the-top".  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 12:00 PM   #54 
        - Let them eat cake, eh?  Armstead   Mar-10-11 12:15 PM   #59 
        - Well once again...  ljm2002   Mar-10-11 12:24 PM   #62 
           - You are making too much sense  Armstead   Mar-10-11 12:27 PM   #64 
           - Again, your "opinion" isn't shared by Democrats, or even liberals.  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 01:32 PM   #69 
              - It's my opinion, not my "opinion"...  ljm2002   Mar-10-11 02:04 PM   #73 
                 - Hey, if you think the American people will go for anyone more leftist than Obama,  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 02:23 PM   #77 
                    - Again, for me, this is NOT about Obama's re-election...  ljm2002   Mar-10-11 02:30 PM   #78 
                    - "Effective" is in the eye of the beholder. I still say that 90% of us disagree with you.  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 02:53 PM   #80 
                       - You keep citing that 90% figure...  ljm2002   Mar-10-11 03:20 PM   #83 
                    - Obama is not "leftist"  ReggieVeggie   Mar-10-11 03:27 PM   #85 
                       - Let's put it this way, he's as "left" as this country's going to go. Mmmmkay? (nt)  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 03:29 PM   #86 
                          - then this country is totally screwed  ReggieVeggie   Mar-10-11 04:16 PM   #97 
                             - We can't even get Democrats to agree on the issues. For instance, I disagree  Tarheel_Dem   Mar-10-11 04:41 PM   #99 
  - Exactly...There is a difference between compromise and selling out/giving up  Armstead   Mar-10-11 12:06 PM   #57 
  - I guess the right people are learning their lesson and will vote in 2012!!  Pisces   Mar-10-11 11:11 AM   #44 
  - this oughta be fun to watch  Teaser   Mar-10-11 11:23 AM   #47 
  - Wow, awesome rant.  young but wise   Mar-10-11 11:31 AM   #49 
  - Genius I tells ya. Derp.  AtomicKitten   Mar-10-11 11:35 AM   #50 
  - ....Or the whole "Tell the base to go to hell, they don't matter" might be a factor  Armstead   Mar-10-11 12:03 PM   #55 
  - No it's not, he still hasn't learned.  tekisui   Mar-10-11 12:03 PM   #56 
  - Exactly  BklnDem75   Mar-10-11 12:20 PM   #60 
  - Any voter who is silly enough to allow ANY radio or television...  kjackson227   Mar-10-11 01:16 PM   #68 
  - Randi Rhodes made an EXCELLENT point...  Liberal_Stalwart71   Mar-10-11 02:09 PM   #74 
  - I'm a big fan.  AtomicKitten   Mar-10-11 03:44 PM   #92 
  - Bullship  Kalun D   Mar-13-11 05:02 PM   #131 
  - Obama's top ten campaign lies:  mistertrickster   Mar-10-11 02:20 PM   #76 
  - I was a reelect them out of spite type kat but the ineptitude and political malpractice  TheKentuckian   Mar-10-11 03:00 PM   #81 
  - In the end, the lesson was actually for the non-Voters.  WolfoftheWild   Mar-10-11 03:03 PM   #82 
  - Wow. Now Obama's level of success depends on Ed Schulz ? That's some fancy blame shiftin.'  DirkGently   Mar-10-11 03:43 PM   #91 
  - Consequences  creon   Mar-10-11 03:47 PM   #93 
  - Congress  creon   Mar-10-11 03:56 PM   #95 
  - Meh.  JoeyT   Mar-10-11 07:59 PM   #105 
  - We're not trying to teach a lesson  jeanpalmer   Mar-10-11 08:14 PM   #106 
  - So, even in theory, if you always vote Dem no matter what they do...  Bonobo   Mar-10-11 09:38 PM   #107 
  - Laughably stupid. Is this your idea of solidarity?  Union Scribe   Mar-10-11 11:59 PM   #108 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-11-11 12:16 AM   #111 
  - OP is posting someone else's writing, not his own opinion,  FrenchieCat   Mar-11-11 12:20 AM   #112 
     - Why is s/he posting it then, if it's not his/her opinion?  ClassWarrior   Mar-11-11 12:26 AM   #113 
        - Because they have that right......  FrenchieCat   Mar-11-11 12:28 AM   #114 
  - The Repug surge in '10 was the product of the liberal base  last_texas_dem   Mar-11-11 12:46 AM   #115 
  - See Wisconsin stats for a starter.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-11-11 01:57 AM   #120 
  - Bingo  Mikeystyle   Mar-11-11 12:53 AM   #117 
  - so how is this the result of the efforts of "true liberals" again? Conservatives were motivated and  fishwax   Mar-11-11 01:47 AM   #118 
  - Or, if you prefer "This whole "Electing Obama" thing is working out so well".  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-11-11 09:46 AM   #122 
  - NOT AS MUCH AS BASHING THOSE WHO DIDNT VOTE, gee you're post  StarsInHerHair   Mar-13-11 12:52 AM   #125 
  - Traditionally ppl don't come out to vote in big numbers in midterms & they don't watch MNBC  Mimosa   Mar-13-11 04:08 PM   #127 
  - We Voted the Dems Into Power  Kalun D   Mar-13-11 04:54 PM   #129 
  - This is not how all  mstinamotorcity   Mar-14-11 11:52 AM   #133 
 

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