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38. Apparently there are some here who selectively listen to what Pres. Obama insists...
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 12:09 PM by ClarkUSA
For example, many of his critics conveniently ignore the following comments by "the prez":

The president this evening said he wanted supporters to understand that we are just in the first quarter here. Weve gotten a lot of stuff done, but weve got a lot more work to do.

He criticized Democrats who complain that the health care plan didnt have a public option, or say to him, 'You ended the war in Iraq but havent completely finished the Afghan war yet.'

His message to them: Folks wake up! This is not some academic exercise. As Joe Biden put it, Dont compare us to the Almighty, compare us to the alternative.

Of course, Biden said it best here:

At a fundraiser in Manchester, NH, today, Vice President Biden urged Democrats to "remind our base constituency to stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives. This President has done an incredible job. Hes kept his promises."

The remarks, made to roughly 200 top Democratic activists and donors, recall comments President Obama made last week to griping and groaning DemocratsFolks: wake up. This is not some academic exercise. As Joe Biden put it, Dont compare us to the Almighty, compare us to the alternative.

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  -Can Obama critics be Obama supporters? ClassWarrior  Feb-22-11 09:44 PM   #0 
  - Hell yes....  yourout   Feb-22-11 09:45 PM   #1 
  - Critics? Of course.  AtomicKitten   Feb-22-11 09:46 PM   #2 
  - +1  Buzz Clik   Feb-22-11 10:21 PM   #8 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-23-11 08:55 AM   #15 
  - +1...nt  SidDithers   Feb-25-11 10:13 PM   #56 
  - How about those who immediately glom onto every critic, whether or not...  ClassWarrior   Mar-02-11 07:42 PM   #76 
  - Yes, of course.  tekisui   Feb-22-11 09:51 PM   #3 
  - Good post.  jefferson_dem   Feb-22-11 09:57 PM   #5 
  - If they actually *support* him.  jefferson_dem   Feb-22-11 09:56 PM   #4 
  - Yes, that was my point.  ClassWarrior   Feb-22-11 09:58 PM   #6 
  - Exactly!!  Pisces   Feb-23-11 12:41 PM   #22 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-22-11 10:21 PM   #7 
  - Yes.......'nuff said  Armstead   Feb-22-11 10:31 PM   #9 
  - Critics can. Bashers probably can't.  CakeGrrl   Feb-22-11 11:30 PM   #10 
  - +1  uponit7771   Feb-23-11 08:55 AM   #17 
  - Where did I use the word "bashers?"  ClassWarrior   Feb-23-11 02:08 PM   #27 
     - Hellooo?? I asked you a question...  ClassWarrior   Feb-24-11 09:00 AM   #34 
        - Hellooo! I do things AWAY from the computer on occasion.  CakeGrrl   Feb-26-11 04:33 AM   #57 
           - "There are some who, for various reasons, just want him out of office, no matter what..."  ClassWarrior   Feb-26-11 08:46 AM   #63 
              - I'm not. What makes you think I'm getting anything confused?  CakeGrrl   Feb-28-11 01:09 AM   #68 
                 - I'm all about agreeing to disagree!!! ROFL... That's what this entire thread is all about!  ClassWarrior   Mar-04-11 10:09 AM   #85 
  - of course n/t  fishwax   Feb-23-11 12:09 AM   #11 
  - I'll criticize him all day but I'd probably vote for him again too.  craigmatic   Feb-23-11 02:52 AM   #12 
  - Well said  mochajava666   Feb-23-11 11:25 AM   #21 
  - +100  Bake   Feb-23-11 12:56 PM   #25 
  - I wish Democrats in congress would give him more backing so  rury   Feb-23-11 06:33 PM   #30 
  - Agreed. We're giving him the political will. The handful of blue-ball Dems aren't.  ClassWarrior   Feb-23-11 10:21 PM   #33 
  - Its our job to criticize and push for what we want  27inCali   Feb-24-11 11:44 AM   #36 
  - K&R- I have criticized him for some time- I don't even like him very much, but I will vote for him  old mark   Feb-23-11 06:59 AM   #13 
  - Yes, I'm practiced in holding my nose in the voting booth.  amandabeech   Mar-05-11 05:07 PM   #89 
  - Of course. Many of us here do so all the time.  Jennicut   Feb-23-11 07:43 AM   #14 
  - This goes without saying, it's the critics who use right wing talking points or lazy M$M memes who..  uponit7771   Feb-23-11 08:55 AM   #16 
  - If it goes without saying, then why do you immediately affiliate critics with people "who use..."  ClassWarrior   Feb-23-11 09:45 AM   #19 
  - Excuse me... I'm waiting for an answer...  ClassWarrior   Feb-24-11 11:10 AM   #35 
     - Read the post again  BklnDem75   Feb-24-11 01:05 PM   #39 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-25-11 08:58 AM   #52 
        - It reads to me like, "critics' motives should be questioned."  ClassWarrior   Feb-25-11 04:49 PM   #55 
           - Don't know how you read that  BklnDem75   Feb-26-11 08:38 AM   #62 
              - Let's play "hypothetical."  ClassWarrior   Mar-03-11 09:55 AM   #77 
                 - Not the same thing  BklnDem75   Mar-03-11 10:08 AM   #78 
                    - No, of course it isn't.  ClassWarrior   Mar-03-11 11:52 AM   #80 
                       - Thanks for your permission  BklnDem75   Mar-03-11 03:18 PM   #81 
                          - You're welcome.  ClassWarrior   Mar-03-11 05:14 PM   #82 
  - And Obama supporters who use RW talking points?  Avant Guardian   Feb-23-11 10:38 AM   #20 
     - Oh? What RW talking points do supporters use?  johnaries   Feb-28-11 12:01 AM   #67 
  - Nice articulation of a common false dichotomy.  DirkGently   Feb-23-11 09:16 AM   #18 
  - Of course (nt)  bigwillq   Feb-23-11 12:42 PM   #23 
  - Democratic "Obama Critics" are very Anti-Obama..  RoadRage   Feb-23-11 12:48 PM   #24 
  - Okay, that's one "No" vote. So how about the other six? Speak up, please.  ClassWarrior   Feb-23-11 08:42 PM   #31 
  - We don't walk in lock step and in almost complete agreement like the  louslobbs   Feb-23-11 01:02 PM   #26 
  - Probably, but a lot of "critics" are RWers and other assorted haters.  Renew Deal   Feb-23-11 02:15 PM   #28 
  - Couldn't a lot of the uncritical "supporters" be RWers and other assorted haters too?  ClassWarrior   Feb-23-11 05:39 PM   #29 
     - What would their motivation be?  JuniperLea   Feb-24-11 11:56 AM   #37 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-25-11 09:45 AM   #53 
        - Division?  ClassWarrior   Feb-27-11 01:47 PM   #66 
        - Trolls are playing both sides.  Forkboy   Feb-28-11 01:30 AM   #70 
        - What is the motivation of the DLC?  ClassWarrior   Mar-04-11 01:04 AM   #83 
  - Apparently there are some here who don't recall the prez insisting that...  polichick   Feb-23-11 09:00 PM   #32 
  - Apparently there are some here who selectively listen to what Pres. Obama insists...  ClarkUSA   Feb-24-11 12:04 PM   #38 
  - +1  Bake   Feb-24-11 01:23 PM   #40 
  - Accountable doesn't mean always negative.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-24-11 01:33 PM   #41 
     - If you really want to scratch your head...  JuniperLea   Feb-24-11 01:54 PM   #42 
     - So that gives the uncritical supporters permission to jump down the throat of ANY critic...  ClassWarrior   Feb-24-11 03:02 PM   #43 
        - I think the criticism is normally over used, over done and over the top  FrenchieCat   Feb-24-11 03:11 PM   #45 
           - Well, I see you've already judged. That answers my question.  ClassWarrior   Feb-24-11 03:50 PM   #46 
              - It's about politics, what we have and what in actuality would be the realistic alternative.  FrenchieCat   Feb-24-11 04:57 PM   #47 
                 - Actually, it's about governing.  ClassWarrior   Feb-24-11 09:59 PM   #51 
  - They CAN be  BklnDem75   Feb-24-11 03:06 PM   #44 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-07-11 09:01 AM   #93 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-24-11 05:19 PM   #48 
  - Of course.  rocktivity   Feb-24-11 09:11 PM   #49 
  - Hell ya.  ClassWarrior   Feb-24-11 09:14 PM   #50 
  - It is your duty to speak up if you don't agree with the president. I have  southernyankeebelle   Feb-25-11 10:25 AM   #54 
  - I don't think even his staunchest left-wing "bashers" want to see a Republican president.  LAGC   Feb-26-11 05:52 AM   #58 
  - This isn't North Korea  Keith Bee   Feb-26-11 06:51 AM   #59 
  - I voted yes. The President asked his supporters to hold his feet to  akbacchus_BC   Feb-26-11 07:03 AM   #60 
  - A leader who surrounds himself with "yes-men" has a weak ego.  DailyGrind51   Feb-26-11 07:15 AM   #61 
  - And isn't actually a "leader" at all.  polichick   Feb-26-11 09:01 AM   #64 
  - See post # 2. nt  Bobbie Jo   Feb-26-11 12:04 PM   #65 
     - My interest is in supporting policies that help the people save this democracy...  polichick   Feb-28-11 04:04 AM   #71 
  - Where is the evidence of that dynamic in this administration? n/t  CakeGrrl   Feb-28-11 01:11 AM   #69 
     - Every time someone would criticize Rahmbo, the unquestioning Obama supporters would claim...  ClassWarrior   Feb-28-11 08:34 AM   #72 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-01-11 10:25 AM   #75 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-05-11 12:20 AM   #87 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-01-11 12:21 AM   #73 
  - Wow, I always respected you.  ClassWarrior   Mar-01-11 09:30 AM   #74 
  - Of course  jzodda   Mar-03-11 11:24 AM   #79 
  - Not anymore. At this point, his critics will never give him credit for anything and many of them  obamafourmore   Mar-04-11 01:56 AM   #84 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-04-11 11:13 PM   #86 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-07-11 12:37 PM   #94 
  - I wouldn't get yourself all worked up  bigwillq   Mar-07-11 05:09 PM   #97 
  - Of course they can, the two are not mutually exclusive.  Beacool   Mar-05-11 11:56 AM   #88 
  - Of course. Not everyone engages in dichotomous thinking.  uppityperson   Mar-06-11 10:44 AM   #90 
  - Apparently at least 16 registered DUers do.  ClassWarrior   Mar-06-11 12:37 PM   #92 
  - Yes - I am one of those people that is unbelievably disappointed in Obama, but of course I am going  jillan   Mar-06-11 10:47 AM   #91 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-07-11 04:45 PM   #95 
     - Hello.  bigwillq   Mar-07-11 05:08 PM   #96 

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