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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:20 AM
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85. Thought so, you can only find "sources"....Come on people, lets deal in facts not in "sources"
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  -Question for Obama Critics: What Can Obama Do To Get Lieberman and Others To Not Filibuster Yavin4  Dec-15-09 07:21 PM   #0 
  - terrify them, a la LBJ; threaten the pork that goes to their states, etc.  villager   Dec-15-09 07:23 PM   #1 
  - First, Obama Cannot Stop Pork from Going Into Their States  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 07:47 PM   #11 
  - No, but Harry Reid can.  iceman66   Dec-16-09 09:37 AM   #72 
  - LBJ sure terrified  CTLawGuy   Dec-16-09 06:08 AM   #55 
     - Medicare and the Civil Rights act both passed....  villager   Dec-16-09 09:20 AM   #58 
        - yeah  CTLawGuy   Dec-16-09 05:05 PM   #99 
  - be prepared for the canned response "Be a Leader"  krawhitham   Dec-15-09 07:23 PM   #2 
  - Nor would we want that, it is the point of our system that no one  treestar   Dec-16-09 09:26 AM   #62 
  - reform the whole Democratic Party and stop enabling the Corporate ConservaDems  Armstead   Dec-15-09 07:24 PM   #3 
  - That Would Take Decades To Accomplish  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 07:48 PM   #12 
  - we know what he is doing  Enrique   Dec-15-09 07:24 PM   #4 
  - HE COULD DO MANY THINGS!  DontTreadOnMe   Dec-15-09 07:26 PM   #5 
  - +++1!  ima_sinnic   Dec-15-09 07:37 PM   #8 
  - Bill Clinton Did Exactly That In 1993  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 08:03 PM   #24 
  - Response  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 07:50 PM   #16 
  - Stop being rational, please  Inuca   Dec-16-09 10:42 AM   #90 
  - This battle was lost when we failed to communicate the health care message effectively.  bluethruandthru   Dec-15-09 08:05 PM   #26 
  - He Gave A Prime Time Speech from Congress on Healthcare  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 08:13 PM   #31 
     - I'm not saying it was all Obama's fault.  bluethruandthru   Dec-15-09 08:19 PM   #35 
     - repubs are more unified  angee_is_mad   Dec-15-09 09:43 PM   #43 
     - But those are just speeches! That's not action!  treestar   Dec-16-09 09:33 AM   #69 
  - at least for one and two  CTLawGuy   Dec-16-09 06:11 AM   #56 
  - ...and that'll FORCE Lieberman to change his vote?!?!?!  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:25 AM   #61 
  - Does the President control the chairmanships in the Senate?  treestar   Dec-16-09 09:27 AM   #63 
  - I think doing a simple vote count on controversial legislation before you try to enact it  AllentownJake   Dec-15-09 07:28 PM   #6 
  - hapless harry reid needs to make lieberman do an old fashioned fillibuster - they want one let em  msongs   Dec-15-09 07:33 PM   #7 
  - I absolutely agree. Make them actually fillibuster. No more of  rzemanfl   Dec-15-09 07:43 PM   #9 
     - Doesn't work that way anymore  liberalpragmatist   Dec-15-09 07:48 PM   #14 
        - You're right. What a bullshit operation the Senate is. n/t  rzemanfl   Dec-15-09 08:01 PM   #23 
        - Please provide a link to this rule change.  LooseWilly   Dec-15-09 09:01 PM   #40 
        - Here you go  liberalpragmatist   Dec-15-09 11:13 PM   #48 
        - This should be posted prominently somewhere since so many on DU are confused about it.  DCBob   Dec-16-09 05:09 AM   #52 
  - Use the Patriot Act and put them in Gitmo as domestic terrorists.  valerief   Dec-15-09 07:45 PM   #10 
  - Air Strike? nt  Jakes Progress   Dec-15-09 07:48 PM   #13 
  - As an Obama supporter, I can say this: fire Rahm, fire Geithner, fire Summers  Popular Front   Dec-15-09 07:49 PM   #15 
  - Again, How Does That In Any Way Stop The Filibuster?  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 07:52 PM   #18 
     - It shows that he means business  Popular Front   Dec-15-09 07:54 PM   #20 
        - Why Would Lieberman et al Be Swayed...  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 07:59 PM   #22 
  - I'd like to know what YOU THINK he should do so I understand where you are coming from before  KoKo   Dec-15-09 07:51 PM   #17 
  - I Really Cannot Think of Anything Else That He Could Do  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 07:57 PM   #21 
     - I hear 'ya..but how much farther are our Dems going to push the "carrot treat" forward  KoKo   Dec-16-09 07:21 PM   #100 
  - Hop into a phone booth, put on his tights and get ON IT!  Clio the Leo   Dec-15-09 07:53 PM   #19 
  - Punch them in their damn mouths  uponit7771   Dec-15-09 08:05 PM   #25 
  - That's Illegal and an Impeachable Offense  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 08:09 PM   #28 
     - but it would make people feel good though  uponit7771   Dec-15-09 08:12 PM   #30 
        - Punching Lieberman In The Face Is Not Going to Stop Him  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 08:14 PM   #32 
        - Nah, they'd still find something wrong with it  treestar   Dec-16-09 09:32 AM   #68 
  - Squelch their careers.  quakerboy   Dec-15-09 08:08 PM   #27 
  - These folks are politicians as well  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 08:11 PM   #29 
     - I think that is a naive statement  quakerboy   Dec-15-09 08:33 PM   #36 
        - Again, Nelson won in a state that Obama lost  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 08:42 PM   #38 
           - Obama Won 47% of the state  quakerboy   Dec-15-09 08:57 PM   #39 
              - What I Am Arguing Is That Threatening Nelson Won't Sway Him  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 09:31 PM   #41 
                 - I answered your question  quakerboy   Dec-15-09 09:52 PM   #44 
                    - No, You Did Not Answer The Question  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 10:00 PM   #45 
                       - Just say no. No reasoning, just "NO".  quakerboy   Dec-15-09 10:10 PM   #47 
  - I'm Still Waiting for My Answer  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 08:15 PM   #33 
  - Don't Hold Your Breath, Reality Is No Salve For Bitterness  Beetwasher   Dec-16-09 09:56 AM   #81 
  - Other than put people on blast there's NOTHING he can do. He's not a dictator, he can only preasure  uponit7771   Dec-15-09 08:17 PM   #34 
  - Thank You.  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 08:39 PM   #37 
  - My answer is here...  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-15-09 09:31 PM   #42 
  - That's An Answer for Harry Reid  Yavin4   Dec-15-09 10:02 PM   #46 
     - No it's an answer for the Democratic Party. And Obama is the leader of the Democratic Party  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-16-09 10:25 AM   #86 
  - Drop the health care reform attempts. They have failed. Move on to something...  Honeycombe8   Dec-15-09 11:17 PM   #49 
  - What would lead you to think that we won't have eerily similar problems  TheKentuckian   Dec-16-09 11:17 AM   #95 
  - K&R  lamp_shade   Dec-16-09 02:34 AM   #50 
  - Well, for starters, Obama could have refrained from campaigning for Lieberman's worthless ass.  jgraz   Dec-16-09 04:56 AM   #51 
  - Lieberman Would Still Be A Senator And Still Be Obstructing  Beetwasher   Dec-16-09 09:58 AM   #82 
  - Attack Republicans and Lieberman as wanting insurance profits over people's lives  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-16-09 05:29 AM   #53 
  - K, people...THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ATTACKS! They're NOT up for reelection and they do NOT get ...  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:29 AM   #66 
  - Well, there's Vitter up for re-election in 2010  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-16-09 10:07 AM   #84 
  - This is the closest I've seen to a real answer  treestar   Dec-16-09 09:37 AM   #73 
  - I'd suggest waterboarding.  backscatter712   Dec-16-09 05:52 AM   #54 
  - Unfortunately, you pose a question based on an assumption.  crappyjazz   Dec-16-09 06:21 AM   #57 
  - I'll take Obama at his word, you can call him a liar like the teabaggers are doing  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:25 AM   #59 
  - Feel free to, many do take politicians at their word.  crappyjazz   Dec-16-09 04:39 PM   #96 
  - exactly Lieberman is the "bad cop" or the "scapegoat"  Moochy   Dec-16-09 10:43 AM   #91 
  - He should twist LIEbermans' arm, literally  treestar   Dec-16-09 09:25 AM   #60 
  - Feels good to read it but Lieberman still wouldn't change his vote....  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:27 AM   #64 
     - "Lil Joey is not going to change his vote folks  goclark   Dec-16-09 10:46 AM   #92 
  - 51 votes. nt  asdjrocky   Dec-16-09 09:28 AM   #65 
  - Obama can not force Reid by law or force to force cost controls via reconciliation...  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:30 AM   #67 
     - But he can force him to cave to Lieberman.  asdjrocky   Dec-16-09 09:38 AM   #74 
        - Link and quote? TIA  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:43 AM   #75 
           - I don't play that game.  asdjrocky   Dec-16-09 09:51 AM   #79 
              - Thought so, you can only find "sources"....Come on people, lets deal in facts not in "sources"  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 10:20 AM   #85 
  - The video link to the Young Turks' rant on the front page has some ideas.  Efilroft Sul   Dec-16-09 09:34 AM   #70 
  - Do any of those FORCE the hands of the opposing dems?! Again, speach's threats demonizing hasn't....  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:36 AM   #71 
     - The reconciliation tactic is exactly what the TYT video urges.  Efilroft Sul   Dec-16-09 09:47 AM   #76 
        - Again, the White House can NOT FORCE.....FORCE Reid into reconciliation no matter how...  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:48 AM   #77 
           - True, but the White House and Reid can strategize together. If they had the will.  Efilroft Sul   Dec-16-09 09:58 AM   #83 
              - Reid "I don't work for Obama" (link)....  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 10:27 AM   #87 
                 - And I found a link for you, FWIW.  Efilroft Sul   Dec-16-09 10:53 AM   #94 
  - Pics of Lieberman in bed with Tiger Woods LOL  JamesA1102   Dec-16-09 09:49 AM   #78 
  - lofl!!!  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 09:51 AM   #80 
  - Oh poor weak and powerless Obama  depakid   Dec-16-09 10:32 AM   #88 
  - Leader = dictator?!  uponit7771   Dec-16-09 10:37 AM   #89 
  - Hate to say it, but it is probably too late.  freddie mertz   Dec-16-09 10:48 AM   #93 
  - A little "clandestine action" might be the best option  TheKentuckian   Dec-16-09 04:54 PM   #97 
  - Sic Rahm on them.  Hell Hath No Fury   Dec-16-09 04:57 PM   #98 

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