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Fri Jan-28-11 05:21 PM
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| 57. Other. He is a neoliberal. nt |
| -Is Barack Obama a Progressive? a Centrist? a Blue Dog? a Corporatist? |
Leithan |
Jan-28-11 09:00 AM |
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Realistic pragmatist. |
dkf |
Jan-28-11 09:07 AM |
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That may be so, but he has embraced the right wing to be realistic... |
rfranklin |
Jan-28-11 09:11 AM |
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or because he is lacking in values not compatible with republican philosophy? nt |
msongs |
Jan-28-11 09:12 AM |
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When the unemployed fellow refuses to shovel snow, that is not the guy who |
dkf |
Jan-28-11 09:19 AM |
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Because they got to where they are |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-28-11 09:35 AM |
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American infrastructure meaning retail stores? |
dkf |
Jan-28-11 09:43 AM |
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No shit, Sherlock |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-28-11 11:20 AM |
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We're the ones buying the stuff, true |
treestar |
Jan-28-11 11:45 AM |
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Thirty years of wage stagnation leave people too broke to "buy american" |
bread_and_roses |
Jan-29-11 11:39 AM |
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Loving and embracing Corporate Interests has had such good results... |
Armstead |
Jan-28-11 10:01 AM |
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So you expect unemployment to be solved how? |
dkf |
Jan-28-11 10:07 AM |
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There is no easy answer, unfortunately |
Armstead |
Jan-28-11 10:30 AM |
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Right wing Propaganda didn't do it...the thirst for cheap goods did it. |
dkf |
Jan-28-11 10:40 AM |
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True, but that went hand-in-hand |
Armstead |
Jan-28-11 11:41 AM |
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If People saved more then they could buy quality goods |
dkf |
Jan-28-11 12:27 PM |
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I don't disagree -- Like I said it's all interrelated |
Armstead |
Jan-28-11 12:32 PM |
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I think the unemployed person who refuses to shovel snow is riding |
hedgehog |
Jan-28-11 10:31 AM |
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Good point. If you report those odd jobs as you're supposed to you can lose benefits. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-28-11 11:22 AM |
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I totaly agree.....I felt like I was on a roller-coaster ride watching the SOTU |
Tippy |
Jan-28-11 09:53 AM |
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I agree. He is very realistic....maybe too realistic for some. |
Jennicut |
Jan-28-11 09:28 AM |
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I was amazed when I looked at the projections and realized how significant |
dkf |
Jan-28-11 09:37 AM |
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He cannot possibly be a Blue Dog |
dmallind |
Jan-28-11 09:13 AM |
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Socialist Commie. |
JoePhilly |
Jan-28-11 09:22 AM |
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He is exceedingly difficult to characterize |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jan-28-11 09:24 AM |
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Exactly...... |
Tippy |
Jan-28-11 09:57 AM |
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Gitmo is a real problem. Some of the people there do belong in jail, but |
hedgehog |
Jan-28-11 10:35 AM |
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I couldn't agree more! |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jan-28-11 10:54 AM |
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A related problem is the fear that if terrorists are tried in civilian |
hedgehog |
Jan-28-11 11:09 AM |
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I'm totally with you |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jan-28-11 02:10 PM |
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Any answer is subjective....... |
Uben |
Jan-28-11 09:27 AM |
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I concur |
Leithan |
Jan-28-11 11:01 AM |
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Democrat NOS * |
JohnnyLib2 |
Jan-28-11 09:28 AM |
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he is a man with Barons standing on his neck, head, heart and gut |
ensho |
Jan-28-11 09:43 AM |
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+ with their hands around our necks. nt |
patrice |
Jan-28-11 10:32 AM |
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true |
ensho |
Jan-28-11 11:02 AM |
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No matter how much anyone might wish that weren't the fact, it is. |
patrice |
Jan-28-11 11:36 AM |
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Depends on the day....Consistency has not been one of his virtues |
Armstead |
Jan-28-11 09:56 AM |
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Perhaps he's anti-hobgoblin. nt |
patrice |
Jan-28-11 10:28 AM |
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I think he is a Progressive , but that he's very diplomatic about it. |
hedgehog |
Jan-28-11 10:25 AM |
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Is the totality of reality, or even a majority of it, subsumed in any of those words? nt |
patrice |
Jan-28-11 10:25 AM |
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A Corporatist who says he is sorry that he has to be a Corporatist. |
harun |
Jan-28-11 10:33 AM |
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You left out Liberal, i.e. FREE. nt |
patrice |
Jan-28-11 10:42 AM |
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Indeed |
Leithan |
Jan-28-11 12:46 PM |
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Include in the ways in which the lexicography has been limited the manner in which FREE apparently |
patrice |
Jan-28-11 01:01 PM |
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Okay, Patrice... |
Leithan |
Jan-28-11 05:20 PM |
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Ish, definately, no and meaningless respectively. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-28-11 10:55 AM |
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I want to agree 10000 times that "corporatist" like "bankster" are meaningless terms |
stevenleser |
Jan-28-11 05:52 PM |
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A Marxist |
treestar |
Jan-28-11 11:37 AM |
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"Nothing to be done" - Language has always been thus, it's an approximation at best |
patrice |
Jan-28-11 11:56 AM |
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But not this crazily |
treestar |
Jan-28-11 05:26 PM |
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Yes, there seems now to be this very contrarian power-struggle going on. An example |
patrice |
Jan-28-11 07:30 PM |
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From his actions, the last three which are names for the same thing. |
mmonk |
Jan-28-11 11:45 AM |
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Pushing for repeal of DADT, Matthew Shepard bill, wanting to close off shore bank accounts. |
vaberella |
Jan-28-11 02:02 PM |
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Only the last one would bother the corporations. |
mmonk |
Jan-28-11 07:37 PM |
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Unrecs. Most interesting. |
Leithan |
Jan-28-11 01:27 PM |
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The latter equals Realist Pragmatist. n/t |
vaberella |
Jan-28-11 01:29 PM |
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Career politician |
slackmaster |
Jan-28-11 02:40 PM |
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Obama wasn't in the Senate that long. He was hardly a career |
Jennicut |
Jan-28-11 03:21 PM |
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He's off to a good start for a n00B |
slackmaster |
Jan-28-11 03:27 PM |
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He saw his opportunity and took it. You obviously don't understand the ego of a politician. |
Dawgs |
Jan-31-11 02:21 PM |
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Acts like a Republican... Hires Republicans... I think you know where I'm going. n/t |
Fearless |
Jan-28-11 03:04 PM |
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I don't know |
BladesOfAiur |
Jan-28-11 03:08 PM |
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Other. He is a neoliberal. nt |
LWolf |
Jan-28-11 05:21 PM |
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Middle of the road Democrat, nothing more, nothing less |
LSdemocrat |
Jan-28-11 05:42 PM |
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This would yield more info as a poll, imo. n/t |
Fire1 |
Jan-28-11 08:15 PM |
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He is a Republican. |
joentokyo |
Jan-28-11 08:17 PM |
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Jan-28-11 09:09 PM |
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He is the President and a American.... |
whistler162 |
Jan-28-11 08:20 PM |
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Corporate Trojan Horse. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-28-11 10:55 PM |
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Obama was whatever he needed to be to get elected and now reelected. |
Beacool |
Jan-29-11 12:31 AM |
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Great minds |
laugle |
Jan-29-11 05:39 PM |
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Yep, I see what you mean............... |
Beacool |
Jan-29-11 10:49 PM |
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He is a liberal but, |
edsmeal |
Jan-29-11 08:15 AM |
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Definitely centrist nt |
teachthemwell15 |
Jan-29-11 02:34 PM |
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He's a |
laugle |
Jan-29-11 05:36 PM |
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A Center-Left Pragmatist But With A Large Vision As Well |
RBInMaine |
Jan-29-11 06:05 PM |
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Pragmatic Progressive |
rury |
Jan-29-11 06:31 PM |
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Progressive during active campaigning, then corporatist in office. |
NorthCarolina |
Jan-29-11 06:53 PM |
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He's whatever he needs to be whenever it suits him. When we ran congress he was a liberal now he's |
craigmatic |
Jan-29-11 09:39 PM |
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Corporatist |
mochajava666 |
Jan-31-11 01:39 PM |
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A little bit country. A little bit rock n' roll. nt |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-31-11 01:42 PM |
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He's a politician. Nothing more. |
Dawgs |
Jan-31-11 02:19 PM |
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Dealing with the Cards he's dealt. He was handed a MESS |
barbiegeek |
Jan-31-11 03:09 PM |
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