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Axrendale Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 05:58 AM
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44. Thanks again.
Most of the major figures in most political history are simple for some - it goes for JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, and for that matter, Obama, just as much as it does for FDR.

The facts about each of these figures tend to show them up as being far more complicated than the liberal and conservative two-dimensional caricatures of them, and many others, would suggest (and far more interesting to boot).
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  -President Obama and Corporate America: Is he a 'sell-out' or a brilliant progressive politician? Axrendale  Jan-26-11 06:37 AM   #0 
  - When you use the "sell-out" memo, you can forget from me reading anything beyond  impik   Jan-26-11 06:40 AM   #1 
  - Why? Are you afraid that what you might read will indicate that the President is in fact  Axrendale   Jan-26-11 07:09 AM   #3 
  - People who complain endlessly about a President speaking to  treestar   Jan-26-11 06:56 AM   #2 
  - While the anti-business sentiment that has come to define a large portion of the Left  Axrendale   Jan-26-11 07:22 AM   #5 
  - Really, that sounds like what the republicans say about JFK.  boston bean   Jan-26-11 07:39 AM   #9 
     - Actually it should sound like what many of JFK's staunchest but most clear-eyed liberal admirers say  Axrendale   Jan-26-11 08:23 AM   #14 
  - You're right on the mark with that.  badtoworse   Jan-26-11 07:42 AM   #10 
     - Spot on sir!  Axrendale   Jan-26-11 08:26 AM   #15 
     - Exactly! +1  treestar   Jan-26-11 02:36 PM   #19 
  - We're back to obama playing three dimensional chess on uranus.  boston bean   Jan-26-11 07:21 AM   #4 
  - *snorts* You think THIS is the political equivalent of three dimensional chess?  Axrendale   Jan-26-11 07:34 AM   #8 
  - The results point to sell-out.  grahamhgreen   Jan-26-11 07:32 AM   #6 
  - I disagree.  Axrendale   Jan-26-11 07:52 AM   #12 
     - I don't want to discourage you from continuing to work on this angle,  grahamhgreen   Jan-26-11 09:23 AM   #16 
        - The proof will always be in the pudding.  Axrendale   Jan-27-11 07:04 AM   #21 
  - Obama is right we should tax the Corporations who don't pay any taxes  barbiegeek   Jan-26-11 07:33 AM   #7 
  - I am not a fan of Obama  nod factor   Jan-26-11 07:48 AM   #11 
  - Alas friend, circumstances hardly conspired to offer him a wealth of options  Axrendale   Jan-26-11 08:03 AM   #13 
     - Very well said  nod factor   Jan-26-11 10:49 AM   #18 
        - Believe me, I can fully appreciate the sense of expectation that so many felt after 2008.  Axrendale   Jan-27-11 06:47 AM   #20 
           - In 2008, we all voted for change.  LAGC   Jan-27-11 07:38 AM   #23 
              - Your ability to tell the future and speak for millions amazes even me and  cliffordu   Jan-27-11 10:58 AM   #30 
              - If Obama's presidency were to end tommorow, then I personally would rank him  Axrendale   Jan-28-11 02:54 AM   #37 
  - He is NOT a progressive! n/t  Fire1   Jan-26-11 09:53 AM   #17 
  - What is he then?  Axrendale   Jan-27-11 07:09 AM   #22 
  - He has definitely proven himself to be a centrist and he's  Fire1   Jan-27-11 06:33 PM   #32 
  - Define progressive...because I'm sure you don't know what it means. n/t  vaberella   Jan-27-11 08:50 AM   #25 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-27-11 09:00 AM   #26 
  - Well we all can't be as brilliant as you! But MY definition is  Fire1   Jan-27-11 06:32 PM   #31 
     - If you would avail yourself to actually study President Obama's personal political views,  Axrendale   Jan-28-11 03:12 AM   #39 
        - In terms of legislation, this is true. His appointments  Fire1   Jan-28-11 09:40 AM   #45 
           - You are right, there is a clear distinction between Obama and Dean, Weiner, Grayson, Kucinich, and  Axrendale   Jan-28-11 11:15 PM   #49 
  - 80% access to high speed rail, 80% of the nation running on clean energy, government investments....  phleshdef   Jan-27-11 09:24 AM   #29 
     - These are proposals and projections. Try again. n/t  Fire1   Jan-27-11 06:36 PM   #33 
        - Um, no, just proposals, and they are being proposed by this President...  phleshdef   Jan-27-11 08:17 PM   #35 
           - Projections relative to future performance, thus the "80%."  Fire1   Jan-28-11 09:48 AM   #46 
              - You are just making shit up. You aren't even writing relevant responses.  phleshdef   Jan-28-11 12:23 PM   #47 
                 - Then don't read or respond. n/t  Fire1   Jan-28-11 06:26 PM   #48 
  - If he had even one Progressive in his inner circle I may harbor the same  harun   Jan-27-11 08:37 AM   #24 
  - What about Elizabeth Warren? She's a part of his inner circle, and I hear, fairly progressive.  Axrendale   Jan-28-11 02:39 AM   #36 
  - Just pointing out that those aren't mutually exclusive. He could be both.  yellowcanine   Jan-27-11 09:01 AM   #27 
  - To be honest, I would say that as far as political brilliance goes,  Axrendale   Jan-28-11 04:05 AM   #40 
  - Wow. When did Michelle Obama wake up next to George Lakoff??!  ClassWarrior   Jan-27-11 09:18 AM   #28 
  - You know, sometimes as parents  Hutzpa   Jan-27-11 08:07 PM   #34 
  - Indeed.  Axrendale   Jan-28-11 04:24 AM   #42 
  - Somebody who actually knows FDR, not just the absurd hagiography!  boppers   Jan-28-11 03:03 AM   #38 
     - Thank you :)  Axrendale   Jan-28-11 04:11 AM   #41 
        - Some spell check:  boppers   Jan-28-11 04:42 AM   #43 
           - Thanks again.  Axrendale   Jan-28-11 05:58 AM   #44 
 

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