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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:11 PM
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38. Is it not linkable in this thread?
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 11:20 PM by SunsetDreams
Are those "documents" not allowed here? You said you have evidence in a thread you started "translating" his statement in SOTU "without slashing" somehow into "will cut" benefits. Why the need to translate his speech if you have evidence?
Seems to me you already "know" what he WILL do.
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  -Obama declares intentions on Social Security; we must prepare MannyGoldstein  Jan-25-11 10:21 PM   #0 
  - Obama will not cut SS.  tabatha   Jan-25-11 10:22 PM   #1 
  - HE ALREADY FUCKING HAS!!!  ProudDad   Jan-25-11 10:51 PM   #28 
     - That doesn't say he "cut it"  SunsetDreams   Jan-25-11 11:00 PM   #31 
     - Jeezus. That's not cutting,  Codeine   Jan-26-11 12:25 AM   #43 
     - That doesn't translate to "Obama cut Social Security", Sparky.  Arkana   Jan-26-11 02:06 PM   #60 
     - simmer down, shouty.  Teaser   Jan-26-11 06:01 PM   #63 
     - Look up "cost of living" before you look any dumber.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-26-11 06:53 PM   #66 
  - Or it simply means raise the damn cap already. nt  DebJ   Jan-25-11 10:23 PM   #2 
  - +1 n/t  jtuck004   Jan-26-11 07:59 PM   #69 
  - WTF? Do we get your translation if we hear Obama say that part of his speech backwards?!  vaberella   Jan-25-11 10:23 PM   #3 
  - So what other outcome fits those words?  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:25 PM   #7 
     - Making SS work positively and sustainbly. Without cutting benefits or privatizing.  vaberella   Jan-25-11 10:29 PM   #10 
        - Obama could have said "without cutting benefits"  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:30 PM   #12 
        - "slashing benefits for future generations"  SpartanDem   Jan-25-11 10:39 PM   #17 
        - I figured he was addressing the Republicans in the audience who keep suggesting it.  vaberella   Jan-25-11 10:40 PM   #21 
           - He could have just said "without cutting benefits"  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:41 PM   #23 
              -'re sounding like those people who heard satanic message in Stairway to Heaven. n/t  vaberella   Jan-25-11 10:45 PM   #26 
              - Anyone wanna bet me $20 that Obama will cut it?  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:51 PM   #27 
                 - Why would you need to make a bet if you have evidence that it WILL happen?  SunsetDreams   Jan-25-11 10:54 PM   #29 
                    - Talk is cheap. Will you put your money where your mouth is?  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:59 PM   #30 
                       - So you don't have evidence? It's just an unknown speculation?  SunsetDreams   Jan-25-11 11:02 PM   #32 
                          - I have lots of evidence  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 11:04 PM   #33 
                             - You have evidence that in fact he will cut it?  SunsetDreams   Jan-25-11 11:05 PM   #34 
                                - Start with Bowles and Simpson  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 11:07 PM   #35 
                                   - Is it not linkable in this thread?  SunsetDreams   Jan-25-11 11:11 PM   #38 
              - "There's no accidents in Obama's speeches"  obxhead   Jan-25-11 11:33 PM   #41 
              - "but he should have said without snipping benefits"  Teaser   Jan-26-11 06:02 PM   #65 
        - It's not, somehow "without slashing" has now became WILL cut  SunsetDreams   Jan-25-11 10:31 PM   #13 
        - Please be specific.  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:39 PM   #19 
           - No...why wouldn't he us it when this is what is in the news and blogsphere noise for 4 weeks.  vaberella   Jan-25-11 10:43 PM   #24 
  - No grass growing under your feet, Manny.  babylonsister   Jan-25-11 10:23 PM   #4 
  - What translation generator did you run that through?  frazzled   Jan-25-11 10:23 PM   #5 
  - So how did you read it?  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:27 PM   #8 
  - He used clear English. No translator was needed. n/t  pnwmom   Jan-25-11 10:44 PM   #25 
  - Bourbon and Vicodin.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-26-11 06:54 PM   #67 
  - Your errr umm translation needs ALOT of work  SunsetDreams   Jan-25-11 10:24 PM   #6 
  - They have to raise the cap.  Skink   Jan-25-11 10:28 PM   #9 
  - Actually, fewer workers was planned for in 1983  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:29 PM   #11 
     - I agree with that but did they plan for massive outsourcing of good paying jobs.  Skink   Jan-25-11 10:33 PM   #15 
        - Sort of  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:37 PM   #16 
  - It's hard to read between the lines.... Mainstreet faces challenges.....  midnight   Jan-25-11 10:31 PM   #14 
  - "We must prepare. We must fight."  namahage   Jan-25-11 10:39 PM   #18 
  - I wish the DUZY's were still around for posts like this...  msanthrope   Jan-26-11 08:53 AM   #53 
  - Never stopped preparing. Never stopped fighting. Rec'd n/t  Catherina   Jan-25-11 10:39 PM   #20 
  - Thanks! We need to fight back.  MannyGoldstein   Jan-25-11 10:40 PM   #22 
  - Prepare for WHAT?  Proud Liberal Dem   Jan-25-11 11:09 PM   #36 
  - I never would have thought...when I heard Obama Speak...that  KoKo   Jan-25-11 11:09 PM   #37 
  - Bipartisan solutions are always oddly stilted toward the Republican agenda.  peopleb4money   Jan-25-11 11:12 PM   #39 
  - I think he may have just telling Republicans to work together with them  peopleb4money   Jan-25-11 11:16 PM   #40 
  - Jesus, what tinfoilhat decoder wheel are you using?  thelordofhell   Jan-25-11 11:47 PM   #42 
  - I took his speech to mean that (1) SS taxes will increase, and (2) retirement age will increase.  Honeycombe8   Jan-26-11 12:31 AM   #44 
  - Glad others caught the "not SLASHING" remark, O'Donnell  Raine   Jan-26-11 03:45 AM   #45 
  - +1 nt  woo me with science   Jan-26-11 06:26 AM   #46 
  - I guess that O'Donnell and I are both crazy far-left haters  MannyGoldstein   Jan-26-11 06:44 AM   #47 
  - What the hell? Seriously? You really believe  Arkana   Jan-26-11 02:04 PM   #58 
     - Yes, I do ..."Words Do Matter"  Raine   Jan-26-11 05:28 PM   #61 
  - The former predictions that he would ANNOUNCE CUTs now turn into coded messages.  JoePhilly   Jan-26-11 06:55 AM   #48 
  - Find that prediction and win $5  MannyGoldstein   Jan-26-11 07:27 AM   #49 
  - Here's one ...  JoePhilly   Jan-26-11 11:31 AM   #54 
     - Kuttner should have known better  MannyGoldstein   Jan-26-11 01:07 PM   #55 
        - Pick one for abused kids. As for Obama's intentions regadring SS ...  JoePhilly   Jan-26-11 01:15 PM   #56 
  - Gotta keep the angry furnaces burning, ya know.  Arkana   Jan-26-11 02:05 PM   #59 
  - Your translationomometer is broken...nt  SidDithers   Jan-26-11 07:31 AM   #50 
  - Hopefully we still have a reporter who will ask if not slashing means not cutting or trimming, etc.  grahamhgreen   Jan-26-11 07:48 AM   #51 
  - I tend to agree with Josh Marshall here. Obama's line on Social Security was 'somewhat ambiguous.'  flpoljunkie   Jan-26-11 07:48 AM   #52 
  - What the fuck is this?  Arkana   Jan-26-11 02:02 PM   #57 
  - lolz  JNelson6563   Jan-26-11 05:32 PM   #62 
  - bless your little heart for trying so hard. god bless.  dionysus   Jan-26-11 06:02 PM   #64 
  - I hope you are wrong, but I fear you are right  Vattel   Jan-26-11 07:30 PM   #68 
  - Can I Just Ask A Simple Question?  WiffenPoof   Jan-27-11 12:37 PM   #70 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-27-11 12:56 PM   #71 

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