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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 01:55 AM
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6. I don't agree that electing Obama was more historic than electing a woman.
AA acquired the right to vote many years before women did. I guess that race will trump gender every time, regardless of the qualifications and levels of experience of the candidates. What's going on in Chicago right now reminds me of 2008. Both Danny Davis and Moseley Braun warned Bill Clinton not to campaign for Emmanuel because he risked alienating the AA community by not endorsing the AA candidate. Imagine if a white politician had made similar comments, but about not endorsing the white candidate? The media and the establishment would have torn a vocal cord in expressing their outrage.

Here are Davis and Braun's comments:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/12/bill_clinton_to...

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Moseley-Braun...

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  -Please tell me I did not just see a Hillary 2012 ad on CNN Uzybone  Jan-20-11 01:17 PM   #0 
  - A dentist. Seriously.  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-20-11 01:29 PM   #1 
  - People are getting fed up. They cant afford food and Michelle is spending all our money,  LeftyAndProud60   Jan-20-11 01:35 PM   #2 
     - most pumas are.  mkultra   Jan-20-11 03:52 PM   #3 
     - Yeah, because I guess electing a woman was somehow less historic.  Beacool   Jan-21-11 12:12 AM   #4 
     - Historically, blacks have been more oppressed than white women in the US  Cali_Democrat   Jan-21-11 01:06 AM   #5 
     - I don't agree that electing Obama was more historic than electing a woman.  Beacool   Jan-21-11 01:55 AM   #6 
     - Wrong. African Americans were denied the right to vote many years after women got to vote.  Alexander   Jan-21-11 08:26 AM   #13 
     - Wow, I had no idea 1965 happened before 1920!  name not needed   Jan-21-11 04:36 PM   #36 
        - Give me a break!!!  Beacool   Jan-21-11 08:48 PM   #44 
           - And what region of the country has the highest percentage of African Americans?  Alexander   Jan-23-11 11:10 PM   #60 
              - Nope  Beacool   Jan-24-11 12:05 AM   #64 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-24-11 07:07 AM   #67 
     - American blacks are probably the most affluent in the world  golfguru   Jan-21-11 02:04 AM   #7 
     - Opressed no longer MY ASS!  FrenchieCat   Jan-21-11 02:08 AM   #8 
     - +1  onpatrol98   Jan-21-11 09:47 PM   #45 
     - Did you actually think before you posted this?  Fruittree   Jan-21-11 05:11 AM   #9 
     - Well actually yes  golfguru   Jan-21-11 03:17 PM   #28 
     - Just because African-Americans may have more money in the US  justiceischeap   Jan-21-11 06:20 AM   #10 
     - Economic oppression is of the worst kind  golfguru   Jan-21-11 03:20 PM   #29 
     - You may ave forgotten to post the  BlueMTexpat   Jan-21-11 06:40 AM   #11 
     - Can you show me how LEGAL oppression of blacks still exists?  golfguru   Jan-21-11 03:28 PM   #30 
        - OK - you've changed your terms of reference now.  BlueMTexpat   Jan-21-11 04:23 PM   #33 
           - Only "legal" oppression is what counts in my book  golfguru   Jan-21-11 06:37 PM   #38 
              - Does this count:  ProSense   Jan-21-11 07:32 PM   #41 
              - I don't think they can do that legally  golfguru   Jan-21-11 08:40 PM   #43 
              - That article states they're "locked out" because they can't meet the admissions standards.  Honeycombe8   Jan-22-11 03:19 AM   #52 
                 - Actually,  ProSense   Jan-23-11 11:44 PM   #62 
              - I'm glad that injustice and oppression are so easily resolved for  BlueMTexpat   Jan-22-11 07:48 AM   #57 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-23-11 12:21 PM   #58 
     - Sounds like a quote from Rush Limbaugh.  DCBob   Jan-21-11 07:12 AM   #12 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 08:27 AM   #14 
     - It's NOT "may be" it ISN'T!!! Blacks are oppressed everywhere.  vaberella   Jan-21-11 08:41 AM   #16 
     - Blacks are no longer oppressed in the countries in Africa, I believe.  Honeycombe8   Jan-22-11 03:26 AM   #54 
     - Obama didn't win because the party leadership carried him over their shoulders  Cali_Democrat   Jan-21-11 11:12 AM   #17 
     - Some people will never get over the 2008 primaries  Alexander   Jan-21-11 11:30 AM   #19 
     - The disenfranchising caucuses.  Beacool   Jan-21-11 11:47 AM   #21 
     - Bullshit.  TheWraith   Jan-21-11 12:06 PM   #23 
     - you are missing the point  paulk   Jan-25-11 10:04 AM   #83 
     - The caucuses didn't disenfranchise.  Arkana   Jan-21-11 01:33 PM   #24 
     - Did you oppose the Democratic primary process before 2008?  Cali_Democrat   Jan-21-11 03:06 PM   #26 
     - I have never liked the caucuses, regardless of who were the candidates.  Beacool   Jan-21-11 08:22 PM   #42 
     - The caucus's were invented to help establishment candidates  Moral_Imagination   Jan-25-11 01:54 AM   #78 
        - that's simply not true  paulk   Jan-25-11 09:39 AM   #81 
     - And the caucuses. It wasn't all primaries.  LisaM   Jan-25-11 08:10 PM   #87 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 11:58 AM   #22 
     - Oh, please. The media was all about Hillary vs Guiliani and you know it.  CakeGrrl   Jan-21-11 04:29 PM   #35 
     - Hillary lost because she had a piss poor campaign.  Whisp   Jan-23-11 11:01 PM   #59 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-24-11 12:07 AM   #65 
     - So Obama won because he is black eh?  mkultra   Jan-24-11 08:17 AM   #71 
     - You're not Black are you?! In South America-it isn't a good thing to be Black, I'll have you know.  vaberella   Jan-21-11 08:37 AM   #15 
     - Ridiculous  ProSense   Jan-21-11 11:23 AM   #18 
     - What the hell? Seriously?  Arugula Latte   Jan-21-11 01:35 PM   #25 
     - Happy, happy, land!  onpatrol98   Jan-21-11 10:03 PM   #46 
     - Holding a Four-Year College Degree Brings Blacks Close to Economic Parity With Whites  golfguru   Jan-21-11 03:07 PM   #27 
     - Which has nothing to do with your claim  BklnDem75   Jan-21-11 03:40 PM   #32 
     - What exactly is that supposed to prove in relation to your claim?  ProSense   Jan-21-11 04:38 PM   #37 
     - To compare with other countries is to compare apples to oranges.  Honeycombe8   Jan-22-11 03:22 AM   #53 
     - .  fishwax   Jan-25-11 12:20 AM   #76 
     - Oh, plez. Are you guys REALLY going to have an "I'm more oppressed than you" argument?  Honeycombe8   Jan-22-11 03:13 AM   #51 
     - You're making WAY too much sense here.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jan-22-11 06:02 AM   #56 
     - Your personal bias is just so strong as to render all else you say irrelevant.  Forkboy   Jan-21-11 10:35 PM   #47 
     - The left deserved what they got by siding with Obama.  Beacool   Jan-24-11 12:15 AM   #66 
        - Guess what - it's not 2008 any more. Hillary lost. Get over it!  Alexander   Jan-24-11 07:08 AM   #68 
        - Why don't you go pester someone else?  Beacool   Jan-24-11 08:11 AM   #70 
           - Why don't you go to another board if you prefer Hillary over Obama so much?  Alexander   Jan-24-11 09:51 PM   #74 
              - Because the name of the board is "Democratic Underground",  Beacool   Jan-24-11 10:38 PM   #75 
              - Yes, a board for Democrats.  Alexander   Jan-25-11 07:36 PM   #84 
              - Excuse me, I was never tombstoned  juajen   Jan-25-11 03:45 AM   #79 
                 - You're excused.  Alexander   Jan-25-11 07:42 PM   #85 
        - "The left deserved what they got by siding with Obama."  TheBigotBasher   Jan-24-11 08:56 AM   #72 
     - I don't recall BLACK people ever owning WHITE people, man or woman. White women used to order  jenmito   Jan-25-11 09:59 AM   #82 
     - What's a puma? nt  Honeycombe8   Jan-22-11 03:03 AM   #50 
        - Party Unity My Ass  Whisp   Jan-23-11 11:53 PM   #63 
        - Thankfully most of them are no longer on this board  Alexander   Jan-24-11 07:14 AM   #69 
        - Losers and more often than not  TheBigotBasher   Jan-24-11 08:58 AM   #73 
        - This poster seems to know. Why don't you ask her?  namahage   Jan-25-11 12:49 AM   #77 
     - Morons look like geniuses compared to this dimwit.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Jan-22-11 06:00 AM   #55 
  - PUMAs still fighting the primary...nt  SidDithers   Jan-21-11 11:36 AM   #20 
  - Yup  wndycty   Jan-21-11 03:35 PM   #31 
  - No doubt! Oy.  CakeGrrl   Jan-21-11 04:25 PM   #34 
  - Yep  NYC Liberal   Jan-21-11 07:21 PM   #39 
  - IF she runs - which I doubt - I'll vote for her.  Bake   Jan-21-11 07:21 PM   #40 
  - Ditto(!?) that  comsymp   Jan-22-11 01:33 AM   #48 
  - The PUMA's strike again  davidpdx   Jan-22-11 02:32 AM   #49 
  - Yep, they're all over this thread right now.  Alexander   Jan-23-11 11:11 PM   #61 
     - naw, they're just people wanting a real Democrat as president  Skittles   Jan-25-11 05:33 AM   #80 
        - Well since Hillary supported Barry Goldwater, I wonder who they'd prefer.  Alexander   Jan-25-11 07:55 PM   #86 
           - Obama governing to the right of both of them  Skittles   Jan-25-11 09:50 PM   #88 
              - You think the person who threatened to nuke Iran would be any different?  Alexander   Jan-25-11 10:21 PM   #89 
  - Locking  NRaleighLiberal   Jan-25-11 11:08 PM   #90 
 

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