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Sat Jan-08-11 05:27 AM
Response to Reply #124 |
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and "right on" is..right! Dems have to stop "falling in love" as the saying goes, and keep their wits and their principles about them.  |
| -Lawrence O'Donnell just pointed out that NEVER BEFORE has a Democratic president |
jenmito |
Jan-06-11 09:05 PM |
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I don't recall people paying as much attention as these days |
eleny |
Jan-06-11 09:08 PM |
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I don't either, |
jenmito |
Jan-06-11 09:13 PM |
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Cable and the net changed our scope |
eleny |
Jan-06-11 09:17 PM |
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You are absolutely right. |
RichGirl |
Jan-07-11 06:18 AM |
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The Clintonistas want someone to keep an eye on Obama |
molly77 |
Jan-08-11 07:15 AM |
#129 |
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We started paying close attention when SCOTUS put Bush in the WH; we paid closer attention |
pacalo |
Jan-06-11 10:16 PM |
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What does that have to do with White House staffers? |
Lord Magus |
Jan-07-11 01:41 AM |
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You're absolutely right, your lordship! My comment was in reply to #1... |
pacalo |
Jan-08-11 01:31 AM |
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In the good old days we did not have Limbaugh, Hannity & Levine |
golfguru |
Jan-06-11 10:21 PM |
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Absolutely |
eleny |
Jan-07-11 08:43 AM |
#76 |
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I'm don't remember any President |
JamesA1102 |
Jan-08-11 08:56 AM |
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One would think President Obama appointed him co-President. |
ProSense |
Jan-06-11 09:09 PM |
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"One" being Adam Green. |
jenmito |
Jan-06-11 09:18 PM |
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+1 |
Phx_Dem |
Jan-07-11 08:17 AM |
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Adam Green can hold his |
Nite Owl |
Jan-06-11 09:10 PM |
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I really don't think that's |
ProSense |
Jan-06-11 09:13 PM |
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Just look at the unrecs on this thread. |
tridim |
Jan-06-11 09:28 PM |
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Are you serious?? |
jenmito |
Jan-06-11 09:17 PM |
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Bill Clinton ran as a new Democrat |
Nite Owl |
Jan-07-11 11:10 AM |
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+10...This prez, IMO, barely deserves the designation "Democrat". n/t |
whathehell |
Jan-06-11 09:19 PM |
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How 'bout Bill Clinton??? |
jenmito |
Jan-06-11 09:23 PM |
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Is he really your baseline? |
Union Scribe |
Jan-07-11 02:13 AM |
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How about Bill Clinton?....I feel the same about him. |
whathehell |
Jan-07-11 08:11 AM |
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Him too. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:22 AM |
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That is truly, truly ridiculous. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-06-11 10:35 PM |
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I'm sorry you feel that way, but clearly many here on DU agree with me. n/t |
whathehell |
Jan-07-11 08:05 AM |
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and that says a lot about the state of DU these days. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-07-11 11:39 AM |
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Again, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I don't share it.n/t |
whathehell |
Jan-07-11 02:01 PM |
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I am a democrat . I still like Obama. |
molly77 |
Jan-08-11 08:05 PM |
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Like me, I agree. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:23 AM |
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We have had Republican Presidents |
Nite Owl |
Jan-07-11 11:13 AM |
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I agree...Thom Hartmann has said he thought Eisenhower was more liberal. |
whathehell |
Jan-07-11 02:58 PM |
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Nixon's domestic policies were more liberal. WE are a fascist country. |
molly77 |
Jan-08-11 08:06 PM |
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Jan-07-11 02:13 PM |
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He doesn't deserve it. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:22 AM |
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I gotcha...and yeah, it is a "stretch" to say the least. n/t |
whathehell |
Jan-08-11 03:12 PM |
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I was going to ask ... |
frazzled |
Jan-07-11 12:14 AM |
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I consider myself part of the base and I cheer the Daley appointment |
quiller4 |
Jan-07-11 02:08 AM |
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+ 1000...n/t |
MissDeeds |
Jan-08-11 08:37 AM |
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His choice on Rahm Emanuel wasn't criticized? |
baldguy |
Jan-06-11 09:13 PM |
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It was-and he was Obama's choice-same president. n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-06-11 09:14 PM |
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He is hyper-criticized for EVERYTHING he says or does. |
tridim |
Jan-06-11 09:29 PM |
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Agree. Its new. And we saw it clearly during DADT. |
JoePhilly |
Jan-07-11 07:00 AM |
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You have absolutely nailed it |
Number23 |
Jan-08-11 06:18 PM |
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Never before has so much been expected from a president. |
nevergiveup |
Jan-06-11 09:19 PM |
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I agree... |
jenmito |
Jan-06-11 09:21 PM |
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Respectfully, I would never have expected a Democratic president to even hint at |
pacalo |
Jan-06-11 10:29 PM |
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"making cuts to Social Security & Medicare " |
ProSense |
Jan-06-11 11:06 PM |
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He himself has hinted at it & so has his appointed catfood commission. |
pacalo |
Jan-06-11 11:31 PM |
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No, that wasn't a hint |
ProSense |
Jan-06-11 11:38 PM |
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I'm anxiously waiting for the SOTU speech on Jan. 27. |
pacalo |
Jan-06-11 11:44 PM |
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He put it on the table when he appointed those two clowns |
jeanpalmer |
Jan-07-11 01:05 AM |
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Obama has not said, "Social Security |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:32 AM |
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Why hasn't the president used your exact words of choice? |
boppers |
Jan-08-11 06:34 PM |
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And how will does the Sec. of Defense think we should cut |
molly77 |
Jan-08-11 08:10 PM |
#142 |
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The F-22 is a healthcare program? |
boppers |
Jan-08-11 08:14 PM |
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If he was on 'our side' his words |
Enthusiast |
Jan-09-11 06:39 AM |
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Obama is going to embrace new trade deals. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:29 AM |
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Let's not forget |
laugle |
Jan-06-11 09:47 PM |
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Obama is the one who raised the expectations level |
Art_from_Ark |
Jan-06-11 09:54 PM |
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So Obama is to blame for people complaining? |
ProSense |
Jan-06-11 10:23 PM |
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If those people are right, then yeah. |
Union Scribe |
Jan-07-11 02:10 AM |
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Exactly how it works. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:33 AM |
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Those are not "unrealistic" expectation levels |
nevergiveup |
Jan-06-11 10:27 PM |
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"We are going to change this country, and change the world." |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-07-11 08:47 AM |
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get a grip |
nevergiveup |
Jan-07-11 09:29 PM |
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Never before has a president asked us to expect so much from him. |
demwing |
Jan-06-11 11:37 PM |
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I agree with you ONE HUNDRED Percent.....He underdelivers and then |
whathehell |
Jan-07-11 02:44 PM |
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Good post. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:35 AM |
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Thank you. |
whathehell |
Jan-08-11 05:27 AM |
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BUT since since the Clintonistas rahm and larry were fired. |
molly77 |
Jan-08-11 08:11 PM |
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You forgot Gibbs...Now that he's gone, we may go to zero. n/t |
whathehell |
Jan-09-11 10:40 AM |
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But you always knew the parameters of power the office of President |
treestar |
Jan-07-11 03:17 PM |
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Really? You never despised Haldeman and Ehrlichman? |
CTyankee |
Jan-07-11 12:23 AM |
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Never before had the country suffered through a stolen election and eight years of hell with two war |
KoKo |
Jan-07-11 07:28 AM |
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I'm with KoKo! |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:42 AM |
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Obama as victim of constituents whom expect him not to appoint JP Morgan Chase Wall St Executives |
lilyrl |
Jan-08-11 11:52 PM |
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Exactly. Can people even name other COSs? |
treestar |
Jan-07-11 03:15 PM |
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I think he should have his vacations. |
molly77 |
Jan-08-11 08:14 PM |
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"But his appointments are neo con"??? You can't be serious! |
jenmito |
Jan-08-11 08:34 PM |
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That's true. Obama promised a change from the exesses of the Bush presidency |
Canuckistanian |
Jan-09-11 07:18 PM |
#155 |
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HIs last chief of staff was so bad |
tularetom |
Jan-06-11 09:58 PM |
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WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE CHIEF OF STAFF? That's a personal choice... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jan-06-11 09:59 PM |
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Jan-06-11 10:26 PM |
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I completely agree. |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-06-11 10:36 PM |
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Jan-09-11 06:55 AM |
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The chief of staff is as powerful as a president allows him to be. |
pacalo |
Jan-06-11 10:40 PM |
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"as powerful as a president allows him to be" |
ProSense |
Jan-06-11 10:43 PM |
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Wow |
Ramulux |
Jan-06-11 11:22 PM |
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Not really. |
ProSense |
Jan-06-11 11:36 PM |
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And your point is...? I can't think of any way a bunch of nitpicking kibitzers... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jan-07-11 01:02 AM |
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What are you talking about? |
Ramulux |
Jan-07-11 02:17 AM |
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You sound like you would rather just have a King and be done with the whole democracy experiment. |
w4rma |
Jan-07-11 07:57 AM |
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Yep, it's that "just trust 'em" philosophy that lets us get conned over and over. |
Union Scribe |
Jan-07-11 01:58 AM |
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THAT'S O'DONNELL'S POINT! |
jenmito |
Jan-07-11 10:29 AM |
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None of our business? |
Enthusiast |
Jan-08-11 04:44 AM |
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Yes, the reaction here is just about hatred of people who worked |
treestar |
Jan-08-11 07:17 AM |
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just in my own lifetime, ham jordan was criticized by democrats |
unblock |
Jan-06-11 10:31 PM |
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McLarty was a force behind NAFTA and the war on welfare recipients, iirc |
Union Scribe |
Jan-07-11 01:56 AM |
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Many of us held our tongues for too long |
markpkessinger |
Jan-06-11 11:38 PM |
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and many still not long enough |
quaker bill |
Jan-07-11 06:16 AM |
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Very well said, markpkessinger. +1 n/t |
Laelth |
Jan-07-11 07:30 AM |
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Quite frankly I think many had no idea what the fuck a Chief of Staff was before The West Wing |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-06-11 11:49 PM |
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Don't know how old you are...but as a Dem who has been one since JFK |
KoKo |
Jan-07-11 07:22 AM |
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Did you not go to school? I mean, I knew who and what |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-07-11 09:07 AM |
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Maybe because never before has a Democratic President put in such a lousy CoS... just saying. N/T |
rachael7 |
Jan-06-11 11:58 PM |
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Or maybe this is the first Dem President DU has been around for. |
vaberella |
Jan-07-11 02:18 AM |
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Welcome to DU, Rachael7 |
txlibdem |
Jan-07-11 11:08 AM |
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Adam Green is not the brightest bulb on the Progressive tree... |
Clio the Leo |
Jan-07-11 12:42 AM |
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Oh, those libs are such bullies! Poor Obama! |
Union Scribe |
Jan-07-11 01:51 AM |
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Racist fringe. They think they owned him. |
impik |
Jan-07-11 03:40 AM |
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Jan-07-11 07:11 AM |
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Who are you calling |
Nite Owl |
Jan-07-11 11:42 AM |
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Jan-07-11 09:12 PM |
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Oh my those horrible horrible liberals |
Raine |
Jan-07-11 04:15 AM |
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Pelosi told Ed Schultz she trusted the President's judgment of Dailey pick. She also pointed out we |
flpoljunkie |
Jan-07-11 06:04 AM |
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So faced with a Republican House, |
quaker bill |
Jan-07-11 06:25 AM |
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If the object is to just get re-elected...then Daley is a good pick. |
KoKo |
Jan-07-11 07:18 AM |
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You imagine a reality that does not exist |
quaker bill |
Jan-08-11 06:16 AM |
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Interesting what you say...don't agree with all...but it's an interesting read. |
KoKo |
Jan-08-11 07:20 PM |
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I work directly with politicians |
quaker bill |
Jan-08-11 10:34 PM |
#148 |
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I think Democrats are paying attention since the last Chief of Staff |
Vinca |
Jan-07-11 06:49 AM |
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I blame it on West Wing. Before that show, no one knew what a Chief of Staff did |
sybylla |
Jan-07-11 07:10 AM |
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That's because they chose wisely |
harun |
Jan-07-11 07:50 AM |
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My husband and I were saying the same thing before O'Donnell's show! |
Phx_Dem |
Jan-07-11 08:15 AM |
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Tell that to Hamilton Jordan. He got a job for Monica as I recall |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-07-11 08:54 AM |
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and he earned it fair and square. |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Jan-07-11 10:41 AM |
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There's a first for everything. |
GeorgeGist |
Jan-07-11 12:02 PM |
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"Deal with it"? |
jenmito |
Jan-07-11 12:27 PM |
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It has been pointed out that this IS NOT the first CoS appointment to be criticized, yet you go on. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-07-11 12:36 PM |
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Tell Lawrence O'Donnell to "deal with it." I don't recall Dems. going on TV and slamming a Dem. |
jenmito |
Jan-07-11 01:10 PM |
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Adam Green is Not Easily Destroyed |
otohara |
Jan-07-11 01:22 PM |
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Yes he is. |
jenmito |
Jan-07-11 01:28 PM |
#93 |
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Obama's Message |
otohara |
Jan-07-11 02:43 PM |
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Bull! |
jenmito |
Jan-07-11 02:46 PM |
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ROFLMAO... Really? Then what does your post #98 mean? |
ClassWarrior |
Jan-07-11 07:32 PM |
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ROFLMAO at YOU!!! |
jenmito |
Jan-07-11 08:28 PM |
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No one cared who the unelected CoS was in the days before the Internet. |
Arkana |
Jan-07-11 01:45 PM |
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Honestly this guy is going to be no worse than Rahm. |
craigmatic |
Jan-07-11 01:57 PM |
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Dem Presidents HAVE INDEED been criticised by fellow Dems in the Party! |
Mimosa |
Jan-07-11 03:08 PM |
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Yup... |
whathehell |
Jan-07-11 03:23 PM |
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"...for his choice of Chief of Staff..." n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-07-11 03:24 PM |
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True but for policy disagreements |
JamesA1102 |
Jan-07-11 06:10 PM |
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We have the internet now. Back in the day practically no one |
Raine |
Jan-07-11 07:18 PM |
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Bull! |
JamesA1102 |
Jan-07-11 07:25 PM |
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President Obama could appoint the ghost of Thomas Jefferson as CoS, and |
Ikonoklast |
Jan-07-11 04:19 PM |
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Gergen and Morris |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-07-11 09:02 PM |
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False premise Lawrence. I've been highly critical of all manners of appointments |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-08-11 09:19 AM |
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Obama won the primary because he was the "non-DLC" candidate. |
PassingFair |
Jan-08-11 11:36 AM |
#134 |
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The internet was never a factor before. MSNBC was not a player either in the 1990's |
LiberalFighter |
Jan-08-11 08:08 PM |
#141 |
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You don't have to find it on the internet. Dem. critics of Obama and his choice of CoS are all over |
jenmito |
Jan-08-11 08:30 PM |
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The internet makes it easier to spread it around. |
LiberalFighter |
Jan-09-11 05:29 PM |
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During last democratic president, there was |
golfguru |
Jan-08-11 11:04 PM |
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LOL |
Skittles |
Jan-09-11 09:35 PM |
#156 |
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