Tom Rinaldo
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Tue Dec-15-09 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #18 |
| 21. They had all the money needed to bribe lawmakers now |
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Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 08:38 AM by Tom Rinaldo
They didn't skimp, they were willing to spend whatever was needed, and that could buy them enough votes to keep us from having a dependable super majority but not enough to stop us from going the Reconciliation route. Democrats lack the nerve, not the resources, to get real reform through Congress. Reagan and Bush accomplished much more of their core agendas by playing hard ball in Congress, sometimes without even holding simple majorities there. When Democrats can't win primaries inside their own party without strongly backing expanding Medicare, they will find the resolve to get this done. Industry money can't help them win general elections if they can't get past the primaries.
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| -"If health care reform does not pass this Congress...it will be kicked back for a generation" |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-15-09 07:06 AM |
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And what they have now isn't reform at all, so the country is screwed for another generation. |
begin_within |
Dec-15-09 07:08 AM |
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That's the point, I guess. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-15-09 07:17 AM |
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NOT TRUE |
Inuca |
Dec-15-09 10:13 AM |
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Mandate everyone buy insurance with no real competition? Sounds awesome for the insurance industry! |
GarbagemanLB |
Dec-15-09 07:11 AM |
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This bill must die. |
MNDemNY |
Dec-15-09 07:13 AM |
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Assface McConnell Hearts You... |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-15-09 07:19 AM |
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The Insurance industry blows you kisses!! |
MNDemNY |
Dec-15-09 07:35 AM |
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Nope. But your cross is. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-15-09 07:37 AM |
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No thanks my stomach for your corporatist mentality is weak. |
MNDemNY |
Dec-15-09 07:40 AM |
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"corporatist mentality"..."corporate masters"... |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-15-09 07:46 AM |
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Wow so you ARE a corporatist |
Bullet1987 |
Dec-15-09 08:32 AM |
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And the sun revolves around the earth! |
MNDemNY |
Dec-15-09 09:33 AM |
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you have become a cartoon. a really angry, jaded cartoon. |
dionysus |
Dec-15-09 09:58 AM |
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No, that would be your "clownish" stance. |
MNDemNY |
Dec-15-09 10:56 AM |
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Mandate everyone to buy insurance BUT WITH |
Inuca |
Dec-15-09 10:20 AM |
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Teddy would be ashamed of your "bend-over-and -take-it" post. |
MNDemNY |
Dec-15-09 10:58 AM |
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Doubt it |
Inuca |
Dec-15-09 01:27 PM |
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too bad. |
MNDemNY |
Dec-15-09 04:04 PM |
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They wont let it die... |
DCBob |
Dec-15-09 07:17 AM |
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But Joe, The Senate just kicked it down to very little. |
maryinthemorn |
Dec-15-09 07:18 AM |
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Been there and done that |
Joe Bacon |
Dec-15-09 07:32 AM |
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And WHY is that so? If a huge mobs of pissed off voters who VOTED for reform |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Dec-15-09 07:38 AM |
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Because that's the way it's always been. So where's the CHANGE? |
jtrockville |
Dec-15-09 10:13 AM |
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"Laugh about it, talk about it, when you've got to choose.... |
freddie mertz |
Dec-15-09 07:46 AM |
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I don't think so. It's a big problem that only grows worse. |
rug |
Dec-15-09 07:57 AM |
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That's OK, that's plenty of time to eliminate the middle class |
tularetom |
Dec-15-09 07:59 AM |
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That depends on Democrats |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-15-09 08:10 AM |
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Do you really think anything's going to change after |
cornermouse |
Dec-15-09 08:28 AM |
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They had all the money needed to bribe lawmakers now |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-15-09 08:37 AM |
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That attitude is why Democrats are the Loser Party |
Armstead |
Dec-15-09 08:35 AM |
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And he's absolutely right. |
backscatter712 |
Dec-15-09 09:42 AM |
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10000000% agree |
Inuca |
Dec-15-09 10:22 AM |
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I'd like to think I've observed this game long enough to know how the bastards in DC operate. |
backscatter712 |
Dec-15-09 04:43 PM |
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"The man glows!" |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-15-09 09:53 AM |
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"glows"???? |
Inuca |
Dec-15-09 10:23 AM |
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lol, that's what either Joe Scar or Mike Barnacle... |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-15-09 10:25 AM |
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I've heard that one before |
treestar |
Dec-15-09 10:26 AM |
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well that is better than the shit they are putting forward! Which is nothing but bought POLITICANS |
flyarm |
Dec-15-09 10:33 AM |
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If this bill passes... |
bvar22 |
Dec-15-09 11:06 AM |
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This bill is so bad, that we'd be better off letting the system collapse |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-15-09 01:31 PM |
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Why don't you volunteer to get it started by dropping your insurance? |
Jersey Devil |
Dec-15-09 01:37 PM |
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Don't accuse me of hypocrisy--I'm almost there |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-15-09 02:37 PM |
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They said the same thing in 1993... and we made it back here again |
budkin |
Dec-15-09 01:56 PM |
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Great! That means we only have to wait until 2025 |
Jersey Devil |
Dec-15-09 03:03 PM |
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This is not health care reform. |
asdjrocky |
Dec-15-09 03:04 PM |
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