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Sun Jan-02-11 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
| -Obama & Torture |
mix |
Dec-31-10 02:02 PM |
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I voted other because I DO NOT know. |
jwirr |
Dec-31-10 02:52 PM |
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Hell No!!!!!!!!!! Yes they torture. |
ej510 |
Dec-31-10 02:59 PM |
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Bagram, renditions, Bradley Manning's detention, the Army Field Manual’s Appendix M... |
mix |
Dec-31-10 03:31 PM |
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Well maybe someone leaking classified material should be free to do as he pleases. |
LeftyAndProud60 |
Dec-31-10 04:01 PM |
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Not yours. |
mix |
Dec-31-10 04:08 PM |
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Torture is never OK |
lunatica |
Jan-02-11 02:54 PM |
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obligation to prosecute |
guyton |
Jan-02-11 02:14 PM |
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+1 nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 02:18 PM |
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I don't get this poll. Are you implying that Obama supports torture? |
mtnsnake |
Dec-31-10 04:39 PM |
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Manning's detention is legally defined as torture. |
mix |
Dec-31-10 04:47 PM |
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"Yes, the Obama administration supports torture." |
ProSense |
Dec-31-10 05:06 PM |
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The U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture has started a probe. |
mix |
Dec-31-10 05:17 PM |
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A probe based on a request |
ProSense |
Dec-31-10 05:21 PM |
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so basically, you have a series of false assertions |
mkultra |
Jan-02-11 08:28 AM |
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I disagree. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 09:03 AM |
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actually, my definition is the strictly legal one |
mkultra |
Jan-02-11 09:25 AM |
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more partisan spin nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 09:29 AM |
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You seem to think that calling something a thing makes it a thing |
mkultra |
Jan-02-11 09:51 AM |
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23 hour detention has been condemned as inhumane treatment worldwide. |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-02-11 02:12 PM |
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great find nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 02:27 PM |
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Red Cross confirms 'second jail' at Bagram, Afghanistan |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 12:18 AM |
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From the ICRC September 2010 |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 10:47 AM |
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That's not really responsive, is it? To be fair, McChrystal had a history |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 02:35 PM |
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There isn't a single |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 02:48 PM |
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Worthington's articles are rigorously sourced as anyone who reads them can see. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 03:01 PM |
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Yes, here is one of |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 03:10 PM |
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he hasn't held bush accountable |
Skittles |
Jan-01-11 06:29 PM |
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I think Obama has been keeping his pledge quite well |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Jan-01-11 06:46 PM |
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I think it's fair to say that some people consider any imprisonment torture. |
boppers |
Jan-01-11 11:59 PM |
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but in this case "torture" is defined by teh geneva convention |
mkultra |
Jan-02-11 08:29 AM |
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Anyone who voted "yes" does not know the facts. Amnesty International released |
Exilednight |
Jan-02-11 07:39 AM |
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Apparently you don't know the facts either |
Azathoth |
Jan-02-11 07:58 AM |
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Transferring prisoners to the Iraqis is torture by proxy. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 09:26 AM |
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Thank you for pointing that out. Maybe the above poster did not finish reading |
Exilednight |
Jan-02-11 09:49 AM |
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Absurd |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 10:15 AM |
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spin |
mix |
Jan-02-11 10:27 AM |
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Hmmmm? |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 10:29 AM |
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There are several in this thread, which you have already dismissed. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 10:34 AM |
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There are no links |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 10:49 AM |
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In addition to the link re the ICRC's confirmation of a black site at Bagram, |
mix |
Jan-02-11 11:33 AM |
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Not only did you provide links to pieces related to the first 100 days |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 11:46 AM |
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Your posts are a blizzard of irrelevance, intended to obfuscate not inform. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 11:50 AM |
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No, they are intended to provide facts in the face of baseless accusations. n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 11:52 AM |
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You can dismiss me, but not the testimony and evidence of victims and human rights activists. nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 11:56 AM |
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"Your posts are a blizzard of irrelevance, intended to obfuscate not inform." |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 12:01 PM |
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Jan-02-11 12:36 PM |
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Let me repost: |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 12:52 PM |
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pure politics and spin nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 12:53 PM |
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In post #33, How do either the AI or ICRC links exonerate the Obama administration? |
mix |
Jan-02-11 02:05 PM |
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Oh facts, facts, facts! |
polmaven |
Jan-02-11 12:18 PM |
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Show me some and we'll talk. nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 12:22 PM |
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You apparently don't recognize them |
polmaven |
Jan-02-11 06:10 PM |
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"Them"? Could you be more specific? |
mix |
Jan-02-11 06:23 PM |
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Just look at the posts |
polmaven |
Jan-02-11 07:39 PM |
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I read them close, as should you. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 07:50 PM |
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Other: The workings of these agencies are not transparent enough to determine what is happening. |
JVS |
Jan-02-11 10:58 AM |
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That has always been true, even during Abu Ghraib. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 02:48 PM |
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Actually, |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 02:56 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Jan-02-11 02:59 PM |
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So let's agree to disagree on this one. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 03:27 PM |
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No...and... |
WiffenPoof |
Jan-02-11 03:16 PM |
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