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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 05:17 PM
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9. The U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture has started a probe.
Edited on Fri Dec-31-10 05:25 PM by mix
Prolonged isolation and sleep deprivation are torture and are the basis of Manning's detention.

At the very least, they constitute "cruel and unusual punishment."

Regarding your last claim, renditions continue and Bagram remains open, which as one human rights lawyer has said, has always been a "torture chamber."

And why does Appendix M remain on the books?

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  -Obama & Torture mix  Dec-31-10 02:02 PM   #0 
  - I voted other because I DO NOT know.  jwirr   Dec-31-10 02:52 PM   #1 
  - Hell No!!!!!!!!!! Yes they torture.  ej510   Dec-31-10 02:59 PM   #2 
  - Bagram, renditions, Bradley Manning's detention, the Army Field Manuals Appendix M...  mix   Dec-31-10 03:31 PM   #3 
     - Well maybe someone leaking classified material should be free to do as he pleases.  LeftyAndProud60   Dec-31-10 04:01 PM   #4 
        - Not yours.  mix   Dec-31-10 04:08 PM   #5 
        - Torture is never OK  lunatica   Jan-02-11 02:54 PM   #51 
  - obligation to prosecute  guyton   Jan-02-11 02:14 PM   #45 
     - +1 nt  mix   Jan-02-11 02:18 PM   #46 
  - I don't get this poll. Are you implying that Obama supports torture?  mtnsnake   Dec-31-10 04:39 PM   #6 
  - Manning's detention is legally defined as torture.  mix   Dec-31-10 04:47 PM   #7 
  - "Yes, the Obama administration supports torture."  ProSense   Dec-31-10 05:06 PM   #8 
     - The U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture has started a probe.  mix   Dec-31-10 05:17 PM   #9 
     - A probe based on a request  ProSense   Dec-31-10 05:21 PM   #10 
     - so basically, you have a series of false assertions  mkultra   Jan-02-11 08:28 AM   #17 
        - I disagree.  mix   Jan-02-11 09:03 AM   #19 
           - actually, my definition is the strictly legal one  mkultra   Jan-02-11 09:25 AM   #20 
              - more partisan spin nt  mix   Jan-02-11 09:29 AM   #22 
              - You seem to think that calling something a thing makes it a thing  mkultra   Jan-02-11 09:51 AM   #24 
              - 23 hour detention has been condemned as inhumane treatment worldwide.  Luminous Animal   Jan-02-11 02:12 PM   #44 
                 - great find nt  mix   Jan-02-11 02:27 PM   #47 
     - Red Cross confirms 'second jail' at Bagram, Afghanistan  EFerrari   Jan-02-11 12:18 AM   #14 
        - From the ICRC September 2010  ProSense   Jan-02-11 10:47 AM   #29 
           - That's not really responsive, is it? To be fair, McChrystal had a history  EFerrari   Jan-02-11 02:35 PM   #48 
              - There isn't a single  ProSense   Jan-02-11 02:48 PM   #50 
                 - Worthington's articles are rigorously sourced as anyone who reads them can see. n/t  EFerrari   Jan-02-11 03:01 PM   #54 
                    - Yes, here is one of  ProSense   Jan-02-11 03:10 PM   #55 
  - he hasn't held bush accountable  Skittles   Jan-01-11 06:29 PM   #11 
  - I think Obama has been keeping his pledge quite well  Bodhi BloodWave   Jan-01-11 06:46 PM   #12 
  - I think it's fair to say that some people consider any imprisonment torture.  boppers   Jan-01-11 11:59 PM   #13 
     - but in this case "torture" is defined by teh geneva convention  mkultra   Jan-02-11 08:29 AM   #18 
  - Anyone who voted "yes" does not know the facts. Amnesty International released  Exilednight   Jan-02-11 07:39 AM   #15 
  - Apparently you don't know the facts either  Azathoth   Jan-02-11 07:58 AM   #16 
     - Transferring prisoners to the Iraqis is torture by proxy.  mix   Jan-02-11 09:26 AM   #21 
        - Thank you for pointing that out. Maybe the above poster did not finish reading  Exilednight   Jan-02-11 09:49 AM   #23 
        - Absurd  ProSense   Jan-02-11 10:15 AM   #25 
           - spin  mix   Jan-02-11 10:27 AM   #26 
              - Hmmmm?  ProSense   Jan-02-11 10:29 AM   #27 
                 - There are several in this thread, which you have already dismissed.  mix   Jan-02-11 10:34 AM   #28 
                    - There are no links  ProSense   Jan-02-11 10:49 AM   #30 
                       - In addition to the link re the ICRC's confirmation of a black site at Bagram,  mix   Jan-02-11 11:33 AM   #32 
                          - Not only did you provide links to pieces related to the first 100 days  ProSense   Jan-02-11 11:46 AM   #33 
                             - Your posts are a blizzard of irrelevance, intended to obfuscate not inform.  mix   Jan-02-11 11:50 AM   #34 
                                - No, they are intended to provide facts in the face of baseless accusations. n/t  ProSense   Jan-02-11 11:52 AM   #35 
                                   - You can dismiss me, but not the testimony and evidence of victims and human rights activists. nt  mix   Jan-02-11 11:56 AM   #36 
                                   - "Your posts are a blizzard of irrelevance, intended to obfuscate not inform."  ProSense   Jan-02-11 12:01 PM   #37 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-11 12:36 PM   #40 
                                         - Let me repost:  ProSense   Jan-02-11 12:52 PM   #41 
                                            - pure politics and spin nt  mix   Jan-02-11 12:53 PM   #42 
                                            - In post #33, How do either the AI or ICRC links exonerate the Obama administration?  mix   Jan-02-11 02:05 PM   #43 
                                   - Oh facts, facts, facts!  polmaven   Jan-02-11 12:18 PM   #38 
                                      - Show me some and we'll talk. nt  mix   Jan-02-11 12:22 PM   #39 
                                         - You apparently don't recognize them  polmaven   Jan-02-11 06:10 PM   #58 
                                            - "Them"? Could you be more specific?  mix   Jan-02-11 06:23 PM   #59 
                                               - Just look at the posts  polmaven   Jan-02-11 07:39 PM   #60 
                                                  - I read them close, as should you.  mix   Jan-02-11 07:50 PM   #61 
  - Other: The workings of these agencies are not transparent enough to determine what is happening.  JVS   Jan-02-11 10:58 AM   #31 
  - That has always been true, even during Abu Ghraib.  mix   Jan-02-11 02:48 PM   #49 
     - Actually,  ProSense   Jan-02-11 02:56 PM   #52 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-02-11 02:59 PM   #53 
        - So let's agree to disagree on this one.  mix   Jan-02-11 03:27 PM   #57 
  - No...and...  WiffenPoof   Jan-02-11 03:16 PM   #56 

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