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Fri Dec-31-10 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 9. The U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture has started a probe. |
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Edited on Fri Dec-31-10 05:25 PM by mix
Prolonged isolation and sleep deprivation are torture and are the basis of Manning's detention.
At the very least, they constitute "cruel and unusual punishment."
Regarding your last claim, renditions continue and Bagram remains open, which as one human rights lawyer has said, has always been a "torture chamber."
And why does Appendix M remain on the books?
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| -Obama & Torture |
mix |
Dec-31-10 02:02 PM |
#0 |
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I voted other because I DO NOT know. |
jwirr |
Dec-31-10 02:52 PM |
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Hell No!!!!!!!!!! Yes they torture. |
ej510 |
Dec-31-10 02:59 PM |
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Bagram, renditions, Bradley Manning's detention, the Army Field Manual’s Appendix M... |
mix |
Dec-31-10 03:31 PM |
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Well maybe someone leaking classified material should be free to do as he pleases. |
LeftyAndProud60 |
Dec-31-10 04:01 PM |
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Not yours. |
mix |
Dec-31-10 04:08 PM |
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Torture is never OK |
lunatica |
Jan-02-11 02:54 PM |
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obligation to prosecute |
guyton |
Jan-02-11 02:14 PM |
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+1 nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 02:18 PM |
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I don't get this poll. Are you implying that Obama supports torture? |
mtnsnake |
Dec-31-10 04:39 PM |
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Manning's detention is legally defined as torture. |
mix |
Dec-31-10 04:47 PM |
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"Yes, the Obama administration supports torture." |
ProSense |
Dec-31-10 05:06 PM |
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The U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture has started a probe. |
mix |
Dec-31-10 05:17 PM |
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A probe based on a request |
ProSense |
Dec-31-10 05:21 PM |
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so basically, you have a series of false assertions |
mkultra |
Jan-02-11 08:28 AM |
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I disagree. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 09:03 AM |
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actually, my definition is the strictly legal one |
mkultra |
Jan-02-11 09:25 AM |
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more partisan spin nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 09:29 AM |
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You seem to think that calling something a thing makes it a thing |
mkultra |
Jan-02-11 09:51 AM |
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23 hour detention has been condemned as inhumane treatment worldwide. |
Luminous Animal |
Jan-02-11 02:12 PM |
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great find nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 02:27 PM |
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Red Cross confirms 'second jail' at Bagram, Afghanistan |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 12:18 AM |
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From the ICRC September 2010 |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 10:47 AM |
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That's not really responsive, is it? To be fair, McChrystal had a history |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 02:35 PM |
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There isn't a single |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 02:48 PM |
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Worthington's articles are rigorously sourced as anyone who reads them can see. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 03:01 PM |
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Yes, here is one of |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 03:10 PM |
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he hasn't held bush accountable |
Skittles |
Jan-01-11 06:29 PM |
#11 |
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I think Obama has been keeping his pledge quite well |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Jan-01-11 06:46 PM |
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I think it's fair to say that some people consider any imprisonment torture. |
boppers |
Jan-01-11 11:59 PM |
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but in this case "torture" is defined by teh geneva convention |
mkultra |
Jan-02-11 08:29 AM |
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Anyone who voted "yes" does not know the facts. Amnesty International released |
Exilednight |
Jan-02-11 07:39 AM |
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Apparently you don't know the facts either |
Azathoth |
Jan-02-11 07:58 AM |
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Transferring prisoners to the Iraqis is torture by proxy. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 09:26 AM |
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Thank you for pointing that out. Maybe the above poster did not finish reading |
Exilednight |
Jan-02-11 09:49 AM |
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Absurd |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 10:15 AM |
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spin |
mix |
Jan-02-11 10:27 AM |
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Hmmmm? |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 10:29 AM |
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There are several in this thread, which you have already dismissed. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 10:34 AM |
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There are no links |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 10:49 AM |
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In addition to the link re the ICRC's confirmation of a black site at Bagram, |
mix |
Jan-02-11 11:33 AM |
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Not only did you provide links to pieces related to the first 100 days |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 11:46 AM |
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Your posts are a blizzard of irrelevance, intended to obfuscate not inform. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 11:50 AM |
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No, they are intended to provide facts in the face of baseless accusations. n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 11:52 AM |
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You can dismiss me, but not the testimony and evidence of victims and human rights activists. nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 11:56 AM |
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"Your posts are a blizzard of irrelevance, intended to obfuscate not inform." |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 12:01 PM |
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Jan-02-11 12:36 PM |
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Let me repost: |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 12:52 PM |
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pure politics and spin nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 12:53 PM |
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In post #33, How do either the AI or ICRC links exonerate the Obama administration? |
mix |
Jan-02-11 02:05 PM |
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Oh facts, facts, facts! |
polmaven |
Jan-02-11 12:18 PM |
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Show me some and we'll talk. nt |
mix |
Jan-02-11 12:22 PM |
#39 |
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You apparently don't recognize them |
polmaven |
Jan-02-11 06:10 PM |
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"Them"? Could you be more specific? |
mix |
Jan-02-11 06:23 PM |
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Just look at the posts |
polmaven |
Jan-02-11 07:39 PM |
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I read them close, as should you. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 07:50 PM |
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Other: The workings of these agencies are not transparent enough to determine what is happening. |
JVS |
Jan-02-11 10:58 AM |
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That has always been true, even during Abu Ghraib. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 02:48 PM |
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Actually, |
ProSense |
Jan-02-11 02:56 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Jan-02-11 02:59 PM |
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So let's agree to disagree on this one. |
mix |
Jan-02-11 03:27 PM |
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No...and... |
WiffenPoof |
Jan-02-11 03:16 PM |
#56 |
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