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Sat Dec-18-10 12:38 PM
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| 7. I don't blame Clinton for DADT. It was an incremental step in a long journey. |
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It took the military in the right direction, at the time.
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| -President Obama corrects Bill and Hillary's greatest mistake! |
cottonseed |
Dec-18-10 12:31 PM |
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Hillary? Don't you mean Bill and Newt Gingrich? |
Lyric |
Dec-18-10 12:32 PM |
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Gingrich was House minority whip when DADT was passed. |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-20-10 03:11 PM |
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Hillary's was more of a failure to change health care. |
vaberella |
Dec-18-10 12:33 PM |
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That's a little unfair. Clinton didn't really have much choice. |
TheWraith |
Dec-18-10 12:36 PM |
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Yeah...he was in a bind on that one. It was this or no gays at all. n/t |
vaberella |
Dec-18-10 12:41 PM |
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Hillary? What about Colin Powell, Sam Nunn? |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-18-10 12:37 PM |
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I read the subject and though Obama pulled out of NAFTA |
dbonds |
Dec-18-10 12:38 PM |
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Yet when congress fucks up....its all Obama's fault. |
Lilyeye |
Dec-18-10 05:00 PM |
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You really think that? |
dbonds |
Dec-18-10 05:07 PM |
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Think in steps much? |
jberryhill |
Dec-18-10 12:38 PM |
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And it ignores the giant Elephant in the room |
ProudDad |
Dec-20-10 10:21 PM |
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I don't blame Clinton for DADT. It was an incremental step in a long journey. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-18-10 12:38 PM |
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I think that's exactly right. |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-18-10 01:59 PM |
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it is not repealed "no strings attached" or otherwise yet nt |
msongs |
Dec-18-10 12:40 PM |
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But we leaped abut 20 steps closer. n/t |
vaberella |
Dec-18-10 12:42 PM |
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That would be deregulation and "free" trade as a tie. |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-18-10 12:42 PM |
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It is a good time to note that until DADT was passed being gay sent you to prison. |
Ozymanithrax |
Dec-18-10 12:43 PM |
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Bill Clinton made many mistakes |
tularetom |
Dec-18-10 12:44 PM |
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I thought NAFTA or the WELFARE to Work fiasco was Big Bills greatest mistake/ or Maybe a blue dress |
Vincardog |
Dec-18-10 12:50 PM |
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DADT was progress at the time |
Still a Democrat |
Dec-18-10 01:00 PM |
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Dec-18-10 01:04 PM |
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True, amazing twofer. |
Safetykitten |
Dec-18-10 04:11 PM |
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Fail |
jberryhill |
Dec-18-10 01:04 PM |
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Mistake? At least Clinton had the guts to try and take in on in the first place. 18 years later |
Jennicut |
Dec-18-10 01:08 PM |
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Go away today. We are celebrating, no use for muckrakers!! |
Pisces |
Dec-18-10 01:09 PM |
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IMHO, their greatest mistake was terminating Glass-Stegall and promoting 'free' trade. (nt) |
w4rma |
Dec-18-10 01:40 PM |
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AFAIC, what you are doing is not any different than what Rush Limbaugh does because |
mtnsnake |
Dec-18-10 01:49 PM |
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Well said. Thanks for the post. |
egoclothes |
Dec-18-10 02:04 PM |
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you do the same thing except your target is Obama |
Aramchek |
Dec-18-10 02:44 PM |
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You have been following me from thread to thread lying about me like a useless little twit |
mtnsnake |
Dec-18-10 03:02 PM |
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Geez... |
ProudDad |
Dec-20-10 10:22 PM |
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k&r |
Top Cat |
Dec-18-10 03:01 PM |
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Actually, not acting on Rwanda was in my mind Bill's biggest foreign policy |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-18-10 03:06 PM |
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Hillary? I must have missed her term as President, |
Autumn |
Dec-18-10 04:08 PM |
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K&R... Obama is correcting many of Bubba's worst legislative mistakes. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-18-10 04:13 PM |
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Hillary was not an elected official at the time |
Nite Owl |
Dec-18-10 04:28 PM |
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Repealing Glass - Stegall (sp) |
Dokkie |
Dec-18-10 04:57 PM |
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It's unfair to include Hillary. Her husband was the President, not her. |
Lilyeye |
Dec-18-10 05:02 PM |
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Fair? She at one time claimed her husband's experience as her own. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-18-10 05:23 PM |
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Well, if you're saying that Obama (and his supporters, like Greg Craig) said that she did and then |
StevieM |
Dec-18-10 07:02 PM |
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Greg Craig was an assistant and Special Counsel to President BClinton, n'est-ce pas? |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-18-10 07:15 PM |
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Dec-18-10 07:32 PM |
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Greg Craig was also foreign policy adviser to Ted Kennedy and SOS Madeleine Albright. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-18-10 07:36 PM |
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+1 |
ruggerson |
Dec-18-10 09:52 PM |
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Hmm, not so sure what was so controversial about that post... |
joshcryer |
Dec-19-10 10:01 PM |
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Yes, I do. And I consider that fact completely irrelevant, just like I did when Obama |
StevieM |
Dec-18-10 08:11 PM |
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You have missed the point entirely. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-18-10 08:27 PM |
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So before Clinton gays could serve? I missed that (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Dec-18-10 05:04 PM |
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Obama ended NAFTA? nt |
Petrus Romanus |
Dec-18-10 05:09 PM |
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Still fighting the primaries? After two years? |
former9thward |
Dec-18-10 09:47 PM |
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Why is this still open? |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-18-10 09:50 PM |
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Agreed. Bizarre, inaccurate, provocative. |
JohnnyLib2 |
Dec-18-10 10:03 PM |
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Why is it still open? |
Beacool |
Dec-20-10 11:40 AM |
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It's par for the course, and it's damn sickening |
AndrewP |
Dec-20-10 12:39 PM |
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Most of the critics have little historical perspective. |
Beacool |
Dec-20-10 09:57 PM |
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This is the new DU |
Lisa D |
Dec-20-10 03:11 PM |
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I can see someone doesn't know what they're talking about. |
donheld |
Dec-18-10 10:56 PM |
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Disagree with the premise for several reasons |
OhioBlue |
Dec-18-10 11:27 PM |
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Is there a point to this thread, other than being divisive, that is............. |
Beacool |
Dec-19-10 09:20 PM |
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Dec-20-10 10:59 PM |
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DADT was state of the art at the time |
niceypoo |
Dec-19-10 10:34 PM |
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As many others have written, President Clinton made bigger mistakes than DADT. |
Dr Morbius |
Dec-20-10 06:49 AM |
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DADT wasn't a mistake, it was a step in the right direction |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-20-10 03:08 PM |
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This thread should be about NAFTA |
krawhitham |
Dec-20-10 04:57 PM |
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It wasn't a mistake. It was an advance at that time. It was all that was possible at that time. |
Honeycombe8 |
Dec-20-10 06:59 PM |
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Hillary? |
mitchtv |
Dec-20-10 10:46 PM |
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