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Sat Dec-11-10 06:02 PM
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| 3. I'd rather support a crazy man who tries than one who doesn't. |
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Maybe he can get them. Ya never know.
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| -Sen. Sanders is living in Fantasyland. |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:00 PM |
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I Respectfully Disagree (nt) |
Dinger |
Dec-11-10 06:01 PM |
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Show me where the votes are in the Senate. Please show me. |
Ikonoklast |
Dec-11-10 09:24 PM |
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Thank you for the reality check. Don't expect a response, though. n/t |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 11:30 PM |
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Bernie (I) is more of a Democrat than Obama will EVER be |
Skittles |
Dec-11-10 06:02 PM |
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Hey I'm sure he is welcome to try rounding up votes on his own. |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 06:03 PM |
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it's not the first speech he has given |
Skittles |
Dec-11-10 06:05 PM |
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The amazing thing is he couldn't get more funds for his health clinic idea. |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 06:13 PM |
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Bernie ie a self-described socialist. n/t |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:13 PM |
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STILL more of a Democrat than Obama |
Skittles |
Dec-11-10 06:29 PM |
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That's lovely. Let's see him rustle up those 60 votes. n/t |
CakeGrrl |
Dec-11-10 06:51 PM |
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Dec-11-10 07:36 PM |
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WTF are you talking about? |
CakeGrrl |
Dec-11-10 08:05 PM |
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Dec-11-10 08:08 PM |
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"WE THE PEOPLE" is a mantra of the teabaggers. So? He still won't get 60 votes. n/t |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 07:08 PM |
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You're ceding "We the people" to the teabaggers? |
Union Scribe |
Dec-11-10 11:36 PM |
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No... |
jenmito |
Dec-12-10 02:28 PM |
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clue for you |
Skittles |
Dec-12-10 07:27 PM |
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Democrats are not socialists. And if you think they are, you should |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-12-10 11:04 AM |
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Right on |
golfguru |
Dec-12-10 07:46 PM |
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No, he's an socialist and a registered Independent. And I'm very happy that Obama is |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-12-10 11:03 AM |
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Dec-12-10 11:32 AM |
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I'd rather support a crazy man who tries than one who doesn't. |
Lucinda |
Dec-11-10 06:02 PM |
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Say it again.. |
4dsc |
Dec-11-10 07:22 PM |
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Bernie Sanders is much more articulate and realistic than what your post gives him credit for. nt |
mtnsnake |
Dec-11-10 06:04 PM |
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I stand by Bernie |
Bryn |
Dec-11-10 06:04 PM |
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have you been living a cave the past few day? |
sasha031 |
Dec-11-10 06:06 PM |
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there are several other Senators that are standing with Bernie |
sasha031 |
Dec-11-10 06:17 PM |
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No. I am well aware of Sanders' non-filibuster. |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:18 PM |
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so he should have gone to the same Parties our commander in chief |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-11-10 07:37 PM |
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Obama is the President. He has MANY things to do... |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 07:57 PM |
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The intended attack dog, David Gergen, failed miserably. Bernie showed him up |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-11-10 06:08 PM |
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Gergen? Is that old vampire still alive? |
Hardrada |
Dec-11-10 06:12 PM |
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Apparently they pulled him out to attempt to shill for the DLC position. |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-11-10 06:19 PM |
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DLC???? REALLY? |
Capn Sunshine |
Dec-11-10 09:29 PM |
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What makes you think Blitzer |
polmaven |
Dec-11-10 08:15 PM |
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Cult status, fundraising effort for Sanders |
sasha031 |
Dec-11-10 06:09 PM |
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Going with Bernie! |
KT2000 |
Dec-11-10 06:10 PM |
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I dunno about that. I lisened to most of his speach yeterday & he made |
napi21 |
Dec-11-10 06:11 PM |
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Well he has 4 Dems to convince first then Lieberman then a couple of Republicans. |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 06:15 PM |
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I bet he knows far more what he's talking about than you do. |
John Q. Citizen |
Dec-11-10 06:14 PM |
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If he gets 60 votes, |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:20 PM |
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Dec-11-10 06:27 PM |
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He got a lot more than 60 votes so you better start chewing. |
John Q. Citizen |
Dec-11-10 06:33 PM |
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So when's the vote happening? |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:44 PM |
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It already happened He was reelected in a landslide, and then there's the |
John Q. Citizen |
Dec-11-10 07:01 PM |
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As you know, I mean 60 votes in the Senate. n/t |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 07:12 PM |
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he doesn't need 60 senate votes to stop this. It can be stopped in the house. |
John Q. Citizen |
Dec-11-10 07:31 PM |
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His claim was the |
polmaven |
Dec-11-10 08:19 PM |
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His claim was if the Repos tried to stand firm, the public would demand |
John Q. Citizen |
Dec-11-10 08:29 PM |
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Based on 800 phone calls |
polmaven |
Dec-11-10 08:46 PM |
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His claim was that he could get 60 votes, which would be including "a handful of Republicans." |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 11:10 PM |
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We're talking Senate votes, not votes at the Ben and Jerry's in Burlington... n/t |
zulchzulu |
Dec-11-10 11:11 PM |
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So how is Fantasyland? |
catgirl |
Dec-12-10 04:52 PM |
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Not sure the Senate Dems even TRIED to get 60 votes. |
AllyCat |
Dec-11-10 06:18 PM |
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The Senate failed to pass two such plans last Saturday. |
ProSense |
Dec-11-10 06:18 PM |
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I know... |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:26 PM |
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And what would it hurt to try? |
Laelth |
Dec-11-10 06:20 PM |
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Amen |
sasha031 |
Dec-11-10 06:22 PM |
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It WOULDN'T hurt if they didn't care about passing the DADT repeal, etc. n/t |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:28 PM |
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Well said. And I agree. nt |
gateley |
Dec-11-10 06:52 PM |
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Excellent.\nt |
Mass |
Dec-11-10 07:52 PM |
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They ALREADY TRIED! |
polmaven |
Dec-11-10 08:23 PM |
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A little too late don't ya think? |
catgirl |
Dec-12-10 04:59 PM |
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Bernie would be on my top 5 list of favorite U.S. Senators |
nevergiveup |
Dec-11-10 06:25 PM |
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What I care about is that Bernie Sanders ALWAYS stands for |
democrank |
Dec-11-10 06:25 PM |
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The concept of having a black president was Fantasyland too. |
avaistheone1 |
Dec-11-10 06:28 PM |
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He ran and people voted and he won. The Senators spoke and gave speeches on not voting |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:33 PM |
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But (and I admit I'm looking for the glass half full) that was before |
gateley |
Dec-11-10 06:54 PM |
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He has dared to "dream". I doubt that he really believes that he |
ladjf |
Dec-11-10 06:39 PM |
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Well, he has the luxury to give 8 hour speeches. Obama is the President and has a lot of things |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:50 PM |
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yeah -- that party he blew out of the presser was so very much more important to do |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-11-10 07:39 PM |
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Personally, I haven't seen very much success from whatever he |
ladjf |
Dec-11-10 07:44 PM |
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Then you're not looking. He has accomplished many landmark achievements |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 07:59 PM |
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Yes, I've been "looking". I had high hopes for Obama. But, as |
ladjf |
Dec-11-10 08:09 PM |
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Yeah, like Co-President Clinton to speak for him. |
golddigger |
Dec-11-10 08:16 PM |
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That was a brilliant move. If Bill Clinton endorses OBAMA'S tax deal, that shows |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 11:22 PM |
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do you think obama enjoyed those holiday parties? |
frylock |
Dec-11-10 08:57 PM |
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I'm sure he did. If you're comparing Obama's schedule to Bush's, you're not |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 11:28 PM |
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We'll see. I wouldn't be surprised either way - I've never seen so |
gateley |
Dec-11-10 06:49 PM |
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If the Dems. who voted no even on the bill raising the cut-off on the tax cuts to $1 million |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 06:56 PM |
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I pray he can! |
Hardrada |
Dec-11-10 08:01 PM |
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I'm thinking maybe increased input from constituents, but I think conventional |
gateley |
Dec-11-10 11:56 PM |
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Keep up the fight, Sen. Sanders! |
tekisui |
Dec-11-10 06:52 PM |
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+10000000 |
polichick |
Dec-11-10 08:29 PM |
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Fighting 'til the bitter end |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Dec-11-10 07:35 PM |
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I have to agree |
Dokkie |
Dec-11-10 07:46 PM |
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Got to love how the MSM is so true when you agree and so sold to the GOP when you disagree |
Mass |
Dec-11-10 07:54 PM |
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The Senate votes aren't a fiction of the MSM. |
CakeGrrl |
Dec-11-10 08:11 PM |
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Some people speak about poverty. Generally, those are those who oppose the deal. |
Mass |
Dec-11-10 08:18 PM |
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Sanders speech may have changed the political landscape... |
philly_bob |
Dec-11-10 09:18 PM |
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You are not dreaming. It is a big deal. |
harun |
Dec-12-10 11:19 AM |
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Dec-11-10 10:18 PM |
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Wrong. |
budkin |
Dec-11-10 10:20 PM |
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Thanks for the intelligent response. |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 11:32 PM |
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Ben Nelson would never vote for that shit |
Thrill |
Dec-11-10 10:41 PM |
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Not only would Ben Nelson vote for it, |
jenmito |
Dec-11-10 11:34 PM |
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I love Bernie, but where has he been in the last couple years? |
zulchzulu |
Dec-11-10 11:09 PM |
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I don't think he has the votes. |
bigwillq |
Dec-11-10 11:43 PM |
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He certainly is consider the Senate voted NO on middle-class |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-12-10 11:02 AM |
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And anyone who agrees with him is in fantasyland too. He and they should no better. |
RBInMaine |
Dec-12-10 11:33 AM |
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So why the hell didn't he then? |
catgirl |
Dec-12-10 01:04 PM |
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Very good question... |
jenmito |
Dec-12-10 01:39 PM |
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I was confused as to what significance he thought the "600 phone calls" were to getting Senate votes |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-12-10 02:12 PM |
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Thank you! |
jenmito |
Dec-12-10 02:23 PM |
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I guarantee the 600 calls weren't all from Vermont |
catgirl |
Dec-12-10 04:48 PM |
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Because Bernie's done such a good job getting 60+ Senate votes before |
thelordofhell |
Dec-12-10 02:16 PM |
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Exactly... |
jenmito |
Dec-12-10 02:37 PM |
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