Reply #78: I have seen the hate talk too, and the utterly unrealistic expectations and I'm over it too.

[bettyellen]

you see more and more RW talking points echoed here, and a lot of good people have disappeared from this site because of it. some really great progressive ativists who still do what they do but stay away from here now. There;s a lot of defeatism, and a lot of childish and angry talk coupled with much less evidence of any progressive activisim. maybe it's Obamas fault that all these youngsters thought a turn around would be quick and effortless. but most more mature dems I know, who have been politically active for years maybe disappointed but they are not stupid enough to think there's no difference between the two parties. and that kind of crazy talk is all over here, all the time now,