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| 127. Writing in candidates names is generally dumb, but exponentially more so in a Presidential contest |
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in the US.
The electoral college system makes it impossible for a third party candidate to win. Even a third party vote is meaningless. Writing in a name is like not voting. You know your vote has zero impact other than the fact that if the worst possible of the two major candidates wins, you could have helped the other one.
It would make much more sense and be much more intellectually honest for those interested in third party and write in votes to spend time working for groups who are trying to eliminate the electoral college system and things like instant runoff voting and forget about voting entirely.
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| -For whom will you vote in the 2012 presidential election: Obama or the Republican Nominee |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 11:23 AM |
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I may not vote at all. Fuck it. |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-03-10 11:31 AM |
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Sorry to hear that. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 11:31 AM |
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Dec-03-10 12:57 PM |
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Don't vote--don't bitch. |
Creative |
Dec-03-10 05:50 PM |
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I may be with you... |
golfguru |
Dec-04-10 07:36 PM |
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False choice. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Dec-03-10 11:32 AM |
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Yes, I know. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 11:35 AM |
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By your methods, you better add Bloomberg. He polled ............ |
Exilednight |
Dec-04-10 06:23 AM |
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It Sure Is |
Dinger |
Dec-03-10 12:38 PM |
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Obama is the guaranteed nominee. |
Aramchek |
Dec-03-10 12:59 PM |
#48 |
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+1 |
swilton |
Dec-04-10 02:02 PM |
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There will be other options available to us. |
obxhead |
Dec-03-10 11:33 AM |
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Ah so the I'm not voting for Obama and will vote 3rd party of write in |
jaxx |
Dec-03-10 11:36 AM |
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I'm really not interested in entertaining the "i'm voting third party" spoilers... |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 11:37 AM |
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Some people never learn, they just gripe. |
jaxx |
Dec-03-10 11:44 AM |
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Agreed. Since several hundred people co-signed to a post saying |
CakeGrrl |
Dec-03-10 11:39 AM |
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+1000000000000 |
MH1 |
Dec-04-10 08:02 AM |
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I'm think I will sign my ballot and let |
Autumn |
Dec-03-10 11:34 AM |
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Neither. |
VMI Dem |
Dec-03-10 11:35 AM |
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I'll vote Obama, I'm a Democrat. |
jaxx |
Dec-03-10 11:36 AM |
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Dec-03-10 11:40 AM |
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Dec-03-10 12:08 PM |
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Your sickening Nazi reference just got deleted... |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 12:13 PM |
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I could never figure out why people used the nazi bit to make their point. |
jaxx |
Dec-03-10 12:25 PM |
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Such a stupid comment |
DFab420 |
Dec-03-10 01:55 PM |
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Dec-03-10 11:40 AM |
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I would vote for Obama with very little hope that he would help us |
ladjf |
Dec-03-10 11:40 AM |
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What a stupid and worthless poll...... |
KansasVoter |
Dec-03-10 11:43 AM |
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I will vote for Obama, regardless of how disillusioned I may be |
Bettie |
Dec-03-10 11:43 AM |
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Amen, Bettie! nt |
tweeternik |
Dec-03-10 12:12 PM |
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Awesome post Bettie... |
tallahasseedem |
Dec-04-10 01:05 PM |
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Obama is winning, but turnout is low |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-03-10 11:46 AM |
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This question is obvious. Does that mean he should not be criticized? |
Mass |
Dec-03-10 11:47 AM |
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Criticism outside the bounds of reason are a waste of time. |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-03-10 11:55 AM |
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Outside of the bounds of reason can vary depending of the person. |
Mass |
Dec-03-10 11:58 AM |
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Enabling Republicans in the general election is outside the bounds of reason for people who claim to |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 02:31 PM |
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No way! |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 12:10 PM |
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If the tax cuts for the wealthy are extended, hopefully there will be |
truckin |
Dec-03-10 11:51 AM |
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Do you expect one to materialize out of thin air? |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-03-10 11:54 AM |
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Chose Obama but |
droidamus2 |
Dec-03-10 11:57 AM |
#23 |
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Points well taken. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 12:05 PM |
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The Democrat - whoever he or she may be. n/t |
Tatiana |
Dec-03-10 12:10 PM |
#27 |
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Other. |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-03-10 12:11 PM |
#29 |
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At present, there are no "other" viable options. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 12:13 PM |
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Dec-03-10 12:33 PM |
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Still not voting for Obama or whatever wacko the GOP puts up. |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-03-10 01:54 PM |
#51 |
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I will do what I did in the last Presidential election. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 12:18 PM |
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Oh, so you really didn't vote. |
young but wise |
Dec-03-10 12:22 PM |
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I voted. Thats the good thing about our system. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 12:29 PM |
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The bad thing about our system is that it lets easily manipulated people think they're voting when |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 02:32 PM |
#57 |
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No matter how you try to make a play on words. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 02:43 PM |
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Of course you can enable Republicans as much as you please. |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 02:49 PM |
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Thanks for trying to use a meme that does't fly it's getting really old. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 02:52 PM |
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It's not really a meme. If you have a choice of the R-D margin being X or X-1, and you choose X, |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 02:53 PM |
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So the republicans who vote libertarian are enabling democrats? |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-03-10 04:07 PM |
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Absolutely. n/t |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 10:45 PM |
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Dec-04-10 12:00 AM |
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There are other reasons to vote 3rd party. |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-04-10 06:01 PM |
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Writing in candidates names is generally dumb, but exponentially more so in a Presidential contest |
stevenleser |
Dec-04-10 04:58 PM |
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You mean a Democrat didn't vote for the Democratic nominee? |
jaxx |
Dec-03-10 12:28 PM |
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WOW! |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 12:31 PM |
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Well seeing how this is the Democratic Underground and all....... |
jaxx |
Dec-03-10 12:34 PM |
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As if you would care, the person I voted for was a Democrat. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 12:37 PM |
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If he was the Democratic nominee his name would have been |
jaxx |
Dec-03-10 12:49 PM |
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Appearently you need a civics lesson on how we vote in America. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 02:24 PM |
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Says the person who doesn't actually understand why we have elections. |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 02:34 PM |
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If you don't like how I voted then change the laws for voting. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 02:38 PM |
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Oh the laws are luckily moving in the right direction. Starting in 2012, the only people on |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 02:43 PM |
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You show a remarkable lack of understanding of prop 14. |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-04-10 01:20 AM |
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Dec-03-10 12:43 PM |
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Dec-03-10 12:34 PM |
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Hey William! |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 03:05 PM |
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Thanks. Good to see you too. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 03:11 PM |
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You don't know that voters will have only two viable options... |
polichick |
Dec-03-10 12:31 PM |
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Dec-03-10 01:02 PM |
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I will vote for the Democratic candidate. |
Vinca |
Dec-03-10 01:52 PM |
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At least One Person should have a tombstone on their way |
MadBadger |
Dec-03-10 01:56 PM |
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I won't check the box next to Obama's name ... |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Dec-03-10 02:05 PM |
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What's the difference between checking "Palin/Beck" and enabling Palin/Beck by not checking the D? |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 02:35 PM |
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Theres that meme again. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 03:13 PM |
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Sometimes the truth hurts. |
stevenleser |
Dec-04-10 05:02 PM |
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I don't vote for Republicans or Republican abettors. That may preclude voting. |
rug |
Dec-03-10 02:45 PM |
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Not voting Democratic by definition makes one a Republican abettor. |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 02:52 PM |
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Edited. |
William769 |
Dec-03-10 03:14 PM |
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Not sure, though if you think something you say is going to get me to stop posting the truth |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 03:15 PM |
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I'm more interested in abetting repubblicans while in office. |
rug |
Dec-03-10 04:59 PM |
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We may just get a repeal of DADT in the next few weeks, thanks to Obama and the Dem Congress. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 03:04 PM |
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Get back to me on January 3rd. |
rug |
Dec-03-10 05:01 PM |
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I will be voting for Obama and talking about it in a loud voice. Proud Obama voter. |
Pisces |
Dec-03-10 02:45 PM |
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+100 |
JoePhilly |
Dec-03-10 03:01 PM |
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Boo-yah! |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 03:03 PM |
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+100000! |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-04-10 08:09 AM |
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I'm voting for Mr. Obama as a loyal Democrat. |
political_Dem |
Dec-03-10 02:48 PM |
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Other: |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Dec-03-10 02:57 PM |
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Then you will be sitting out every Presidential election for the rest fo your life. |
JoePhilly |
Dec-03-10 03:02 PM |
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+1. |
BzaDem |
Dec-03-10 03:16 PM |
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There are other candidates - |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Dec-03-10 04:38 PM |
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Name one. |
JoePhilly |
Dec-04-10 08:58 PM |
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Well, that won't be Obama... |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 03:02 PM |
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Ask me in 2012. |
subterranean |
Dec-03-10 02:59 PM |
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Depends... |
saras |
Dec-03-10 03:15 PM |
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Since when does "viable" mean anything? |
last_texas_dem |
Dec-03-10 03:20 PM |
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I will vote for the Democratic nominee. And if that turns out to be someone other than Obama, that's |
totodeinhere |
Dec-03-10 03:28 PM |
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I'm sorry but I really don't see the sense in this thread. |
downeyr |
Dec-03-10 04:46 PM |
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In terms of policy making, negotiation, etc, there may be areas of gray. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 05:21 PM |
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I won't be voting Republican. Ever. |
BlueIris |
Dec-03-10 04:50 PM |
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No flames... |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-03-10 05:15 PM |
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Not sure why you see a difference between voting for a Republican and enabling a Republican victory. |
BzaDem |
Dec-04-10 07:05 AM |
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Right now |
bigwillq |
Dec-03-10 05:21 PM |
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nice push poll |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-03-10 05:26 PM |
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No kidding - you have to break DU rules to go with the other guy. nt |
polichick |
Dec-03-10 07:35 PM |
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That is not a push poll. I suggest you look up the meaning of the term. n/t |
stevenleser |
Dec-04-10 05:02 PM |
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Nader. |
dorkulon |
Dec-03-10 05:56 PM |
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I'm not too pleased with the choices. |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-03-10 06:21 PM |
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This is DU |
mstinamotorcity |
Dec-03-10 07:15 PM |
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Ha! Epic poll. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-03-10 07:57 PM |
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The lesser of two evils |
louslobbs |
Dec-03-10 08:40 PM |
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I will vote for the evil of two lessers... |
Joe Bacon |
Dec-04-10 12:32 AM |
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It is a false choice. Primary challenger could emerge. Third Party |
beforeyoureyes |
Dec-04-10 12:49 AM |
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They just enable the Republican victory. You may as well vote "Republican" in the poll. n/t |
BzaDem |
Dec-04-10 01:28 AM |
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crazy question |
marlakay |
Dec-04-10 01:06 AM |
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I'll vote for him, but volunteer? Hard to say. |
jillan |
Dec-04-10 02:03 AM |
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Presented with these options... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-04-10 02:06 AM |
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Good post. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-04-10 06:28 AM |
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Neither. |
Luciferous |
Dec-04-10 07:55 AM |
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So I have to ask . . . why are the 5 Republican voters posting on DU? |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-04-10 08:08 AM |
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I'll vote Republican. I want the country to burn to the ground. |
Sirveri |
Dec-04-10 08:10 AM |
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Why don't you think that the country won't move even FURTHER right after your mythical "crash?" |
BzaDem |
Dec-04-10 05:05 PM |
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The last big crash was the great depression. So no. |
Sirveri |
Dec-04-10 09:39 PM |
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NEITHER! |
ProudDad |
Dec-04-10 12:47 PM |
#120 |
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"There ARE usually other candidates on the ballot!" |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-04-10 06:15 PM |
#134 |
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what a depressing choice |
mitchtv |
Dec-04-10 01:28 PM |
#122 |
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If this keeps up, I'll be supporting, spending money on, and campaigning |
ScreamingMeemie |
Dec-04-10 01:45 PM |
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I'll vote for Obama in 2012, but unlikely I'll donate to his campaign unless |
Hawaii Hiker |
Dec-04-10 01:47 PM |
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Those are the only two choices? |
Beacool |
Dec-04-10 01:56 PM |
#125 |
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Yes. Only two candidates in any Presidential election who might actually become President. n/t |
BzaDem |
Dec-04-10 05:04 PM |
#130 |
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Well thank goodness we had this poll and needn't bother with an election season. |
Union Scribe |
Dec-04-10 06:08 PM |
#133 |
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Election season is for picking between the two parties. Not for imagining a fantasy world in which |
BzaDem |
Dec-04-10 06:44 PM |
#136 |
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Yes, we must accept and obey. See you in line. |
Union Scribe |
Dec-04-10 06:46 PM |
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You act as if the obvious truth somehow becomes not true just because you don't "accept it." n/t |
BzaDem |
Dec-04-10 07:13 PM |
#138 |
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Please follow the corporate line and obey! |
AndrewP |
Dec-04-10 08:10 PM |
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other |
libmom74 |
Dec-04-10 06:40 PM |
#135 |
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In your poll |
Caretha |
Dec-04-10 07:55 PM |
#140 |
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That'll show him!!! |
JoePhilly |
Dec-04-10 09:03 PM |
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None of the above |
Raine |
Dec-04-10 08:23 PM |
#142 |
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I may not vote. n/t |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-04-10 09:21 PM |
#145 |
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There will be more than 2 bubbles I can fill |
quakerboy |
Dec-04-10 09:26 PM |
#146 |
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. |
Zenlitened |
Dec-04-10 09:41 PM |
#148 |
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