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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 09:10 AM
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22. Nonsense, there was a universal health care system to get.
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  -Corporatism, FDR, LBJ, and BHO Recursion  Dec-03-10 09:44 AM   #0 
  - Interesting and enlightening, thank you.  TwilightGardener   Dec-03-10 09:50 AM   #1 
  - Thanks. I think I'm whistling into a hurricane, though.  Recursion   Dec-03-10 10:57 AM   #2 
  - Rec'd. Corporations aren't evil in and of themselves.  treestar   Dec-03-10 10:59 AM   #3 
  - Where do people think the vast military-industrial complex came from? WWII started  Jennicut   Dec-03-10 11:12 AM   #4 
  - I agree on the cyclic nature of it  Recursion   Dec-03-10 11:20 AM   #5 
     - True. The smaller corps that came out of the bigger corps eventually became  Jennicut   Dec-03-10 01:56 PM   #16 
        - And in 10 years we'll probably have 3 or 4 big insurance companies left  Recursion   Dec-03-10 02:18 PM   #17 
  - CEOs and politicians are human beings just like the rest of us.  phleshdef   Dec-03-10 11:34 AM   #6 
  - The stability is key, though we'll lose a lot of smaller insurance companies  Recursion   Dec-03-10 11:52 AM   #7 
  - I'm seeing a lot of defenses of corporatism here lately. Must be the new coordinated talking point.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-03-10 11:58 AM   #8 
  - Yes, I get a memo faxed to me every morning  Recursion   Dec-03-10 12:00 PM   #9 
     - I'm just making an observation. All of a sudden the 'usual suspects' are defending corporations.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-03-10 12:05 PM   #10 
        - Because the consistent and constant attack here against Obama is that he is "corporatist"  Recursion   Dec-03-10 12:08 PM   #11 
           - Strawman.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-03-10 12:32 PM   #12 
              - But why do you insist he hasn't done that?  Recursion   Dec-03-10 12:37 PM   #13 
                 - Taking the public option off the table. And the WH deals with Big Pharma.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-03-10 01:18 PM   #14 
                    - None of his concessions were to Republicans  Recursion   Dec-03-10 01:45 PM   #15 
  - FDR made it very clear that his goal was to save the Capitalist Class from it's own screw-ups.  Odin2005   Dec-03-10 11:06 PM   #18 
  - I can't disagree  Recursion   Dec-04-10 11:24 AM   #24 
  - +1.  boppers   Dec-03-10 11:36 PM   #19 
  - All that's well and good but when LBJ and FDR did it, they got more out of it.  craigmatic   Dec-03-10 11:39 PM   #20 
  - There was more to get  Recursion   Dec-04-10 01:32 AM   #21 
     - Nonsense, there was a universal health care system to get.  craigmatic   Dec-04-10 09:10 AM   #22 
        - The whole world is running out of resources  Recursion   Dec-04-10 03:16 PM   #26 
           - All the more reason not to put a price on health care.  craigmatic   Dec-04-10 08:39 PM   #27 
              - Fair enough  Recursion   Dec-04-10 08:42 PM   #28 
                 - Yeah but in other countries they make it available for everyone and everyone pays into the system.  craigmatic   Dec-04-10 09:55 PM   #29 
  - Social Security and Medicare are funded though payroll taxes  Bluenorthwest   Dec-04-10 09:37 AM   #23 
  - Yes, self-employed people can pay into the system  Recursion   Dec-04-10 11:36 AM   #25 
  - A lot of misinformation and misinterpretation in this post.  AdHocSolver   Dec-05-10 10:18 PM   #30 

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