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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 08:20 AM
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68. Founding fathers had this odd idea that Legislative and Executive branches were co-equal..
... I TRIED to convince them they should make it so the Executive branch had more power when Dems were in control, but they wouldn't list to me.
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  -This is very hard for me but Obama is now dead to me (metaphorically) Botany  Dec-02-10 08:24 PM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-02-10 08:27 PM   #1 
  - I had thought he was only engaging in --  Hell Hath No Fury   Dec-02-10 08:28 PM   #2 
  - Obama thinks that just because his body has warmth he can .....  Botany   Dec-02-10 08:30 PM   #6 
     - If he hsn't learned after the last two years --  Hell Hath No Fury   Dec-02-10 08:35 PM   #12 
     - Is it cluelessness or collusion? Is he utterly clueless and naive or have his  snagglepuss   Dec-02-10 08:55 PM   #23 
        - He's weak. And he's complicit. n/t  truth2power   Dec-02-10 10:48 PM   #37 
        - I think that no matter how things come out, we need to rethink the  karynnj   Dec-03-10 07:19 AM   #66 
           - Obama fucking LIED. He made PROMISES that he promptly broke, once elected.  chimpymustgo   Dec-03-10 09:02 AM   #70 
  - they do this in our name  eleny   Dec-02-10 08:29 PM   #3 
  - Yes they do  pscot   Dec-02-10 09:08 PM   #25 
  - pfffft...nt  SidDithers   Dec-02-10 08:29 PM   #4 
  - That's the sound from the Hope and Change balloon nt  MannyGoldstein   Dec-02-10 08:31 PM   #8 
     - OMG!  pecwae   Dec-03-10 01:23 PM   #78 
  - Amazing isn't it. Just amazing. I feel bad for all of us.  MannyGoldstein   Dec-02-10 08:30 PM   #5 
  - I gave time and shoe leather. But FWIW Obama doesn't own Hope and Change.  glitch   Dec-02-10 08:32 PM   # 
  - Nice Freudian slip  XemaSab   Dec-02-10 08:36 PM   #14 
     - Excuse my ignorance, but how is that a Freudian slip?  MannyGoldstein   Dec-02-10 08:38 PM   #15 
     - waived =/= waved  XemaSab   Dec-02-10 08:40 PM   #17 
        - Holy $%^&, do I need a nap  MannyGoldstein   Dec-02-10 09:09 PM   #26 
        - Nice catch. Its funny, because it's true...  demwing   Dec-03-10 10:02 AM   #73 
     - That is quite a slip. Kudos for being so attentive. nt  snagglepuss   Dec-02-10 08:58 PM   #24 
  - I would be careful with that verbiage. nt  Dreamer Tatum   Dec-02-10 08:30 PM   #7 
  - Why? Because the Alien and Sedition Acts are coming back?  MannyGoldstein   Dec-02-10 08:32 PM   #9 
  - The death of net neutrality? n/t  Liberal_Stalwart71   Dec-02-10 08:36 PM   #13 
  - I changed the title  Botany   Dec-02-10 08:33 PM   #10 
  - Edit: because I didn't see the original title. nt  glitch   Dec-02-10 08:34 PM   #11 
  - He'll try and get over it. The fact that he wouldn't know you if he tripped over you ...  11 Bravo   Dec-02-10 08:39 PM   #16 
  - Has there EVER been a President who did everything we wanted?  LawnLover   Dec-02-10 08:40 PM   #18 
  - They also caused the economic woes  Bluenorthwest   Dec-02-10 08:50 PM   #22 
  - Thank you..that put's it in realistic perspective..this threads serve little purpose  HipChick   Dec-03-10 07:13 AM   #65 
     - For whom do they serve 'little purpose'?  sabrina 1   Dec-03-10 07:23 PM   #83 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-02-10 08:45 PM   #19 
  - Write when you find the perfect President.  TreasonousBastard   Dec-02-10 08:49 PM   #20 
  - Good point.  MannyGoldstein   Dec-02-10 09:14 PM   #27 
  - Yeah, so you're ok with the Pres giving a pass on war crimes. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-02-10 09:23 PM   #28 
  - Some Semblence of a Democrat Would Be Fine With Most of Us  we can do it   Dec-03-10 07:02 AM   #63 
  - Why is Obama the ONLY one who's supposed to have a spine?  Clio the Leo   Dec-02-10 08:49 PM   #21 
  - Because he's SUPPOSEDLY the leader of the free world?  sudopod   Dec-03-10 01:52 AM   #44 
     - Please read the Constitution  treestar   Dec-03-10 07:39 AM   #67 
     - Founding fathers had this odd idea that Legislative and Executive branches were co-equal..  Clio the Leo   Dec-03-10 08:20 AM   #68 
        - Which part of the Constitution says  sudopod   Dec-04-10 11:05 PM   #89 
  - Mourn all you want, but we need folks to work for Dem candidates to win back the House.  political_Dem   Dec-02-10 09:27 PM   #29 
  - "Is beating up on Mr. Obama the only thing some folks care about?"  jefferson_dem   Dec-02-10 09:30 PM   #30 
     - Exactly. Practicality is in short supply these days. This is why.  political_Dem   Dec-02-10 09:34 PM   #31 
     - I guess torture IS practical.  sudopod   Dec-03-10 02:01 AM   #49 
        - With thread after thread of pearl clutching and Obama bashing?  political_Dem   Dec-03-10 02:13 AM   #50 
           - I believe that if we're going to complain about a Democratic President  sudopod   Dec-03-10 02:14 AM   #51 
              - What good reason? Whenever the same tearing at widow weeds happens, it's not substantive.  political_Dem   Dec-03-10 02:20 AM   #53 
                 - Well, let me put the same question to you that was put to someone else below.  sudopod   Dec-03-10 02:30 AM   #55 
                    - Idealism is lovely. But this is a time of political realities.  political_Dem   Dec-03-10 06:30 AM   #61 
                       - First against the wall are not the lawyers, but the kibitzers...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-03-10 10:13 AM   #74 
     - I suspect they are some hard right haters here helping to stir the pot.  Pisces   Dec-02-10 09:40 PM   #33 
  - Sorry, Bot, but I cannot climb on this band wagon  SeattleGirl   Dec-02-10 09:35 PM   #32 
  - Did I ever tell you that you are my Fave?  Botany   Dec-03-10 12:39 AM   #40 
  - Yes, I agree.  cyr330   Dec-02-10 09:45 PM   #34 
  - But not to 81% of liberal Democrats  UrbScotty   Dec-02-10 10:13 PM   #35 
  - and you'll discard the polls the second they don't back your premise  sudopod   Dec-03-10 01:49 AM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-02-10 10:13 PM   #36 
  - Good job. So who should replace him?  babylonsister   Dec-02-10 11:22 PM   #38 
  - Wow...I never thought I'd see the day on a thread like this on DU  HipChick   Dec-03-10 12:36 AM   #39 
  - A thread?  JTFrog   Dec-03-10 05:35 AM   #59 
     - I was about to say  ampad   Dec-03-10 06:38 AM   #62 
        - I did not post in an attempt to be outrageous and although ...  Botany   Dec-03-10 08:44 AM   #69 
        - The only thing that united DU was 8 years of Shrub, and...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-03-10 09:55 AM   #71 
        - Divide and conquer meme has run amok  HipChick   Dec-03-10 08:45 PM   #87 
        - Take every word from this post and make it an OP  Number23   Dec-03-10 06:23 PM   #81 
  - That's fine, as long as you are prepared to also totally write off FDR's presidency for  TwilightGardener   Dec-03-10 01:41 AM   #41 
  - Others did it  sudopod   Dec-03-10 01:50 AM   #43 
  - IT's not OK and neither is the OPs perspective, we can work with Obama and that has been proven over  uponit7771   Dec-03-10 01:53 AM   #45 
  - Sure he's not a dictator.  sudopod   Dec-03-10 01:55 AM   #46 
  - OP used the phrase "dead to me", as in "nothing else Obama did or does will matter."  TwilightGardener   Dec-03-10 01:55 AM   #47 
     - From what perspective should we see that it's ok?  sudopod   Dec-03-10 01:58 AM   #48 
        - What's OK--telling Spain we're not going to be eager to go along with  TwilightGardener   Dec-03-10 02:18 AM   #52 
           - It isn't like he ruined thanksgiving by talking about politics though.  sudopod   Dec-03-10 02:21 AM   #54 
           - That was only one of the cases they tried to kill.  EFerrari   Dec-03-10 04:01 AM   #57 
  - You mean the guy whose critics said he sent socialism out the door on a stretcher?  JTFrog   Dec-03-10 05:37 AM   #60 
  - Behold, I am the theadkiller!  sudopod   Dec-03-10 02:43 AM   #56 
  - No, you are the prince. I am the king of thread-killers.  Safetykitten   Dec-03-10 09:57 AM   #72 
  - "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged"  Vicar In A Tutu   Dec-03-10 05:12 AM   #58 
  - I Did the Same. I Was To Tired To Even Stay Up for the Victory Speech  we can do it   Dec-03-10 07:08 AM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-03-10 12:54 PM   #76 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-03-10 12:53 PM   #75 
  - Okay.  AtomicKitten   Dec-03-10 12:54 PM   #77 
  - I agree with you Botany. Being a constitutional lawyer, Obama should hang his head in shame.  mod mom   Dec-03-10 04:40 PM   #79 
  - Cool Story Bro  Cali_Democrat   Dec-03-10 04:52 PM   #80 
  - Anymore I expect NOTHING from Obama  Raine   Dec-03-10 07:23 PM   #82 
  - K&+R  Senator   Dec-03-10 07:37 PM   #84 
  - Unfortunately, some people will not let the facts to get in the way ideologue  mrdmk   Dec-03-10 08:13 PM   #85 
  - Why we let Bush go free is beyond me...  Mike Nelson   Dec-03-10 08:28 PM   #86 
  - You have the gubmint you have collectively so richly earned.  Karenina   Dec-04-10 04:33 PM   #88 
 

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