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Sun Nov-28-10 05:36 AM
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at least intended purpose to it and I don't think it's what the word "groping" usually brings to mind. To me, it seems we should be asking the questions - Do these enhanced measures achieve the purpose they are meant to achieve or not? And if not, what would be better? If they do, are they so invasive that we'd rather deal with the increased risk of not using them? Or are they so invasive that we need to come up with something better anyway? The problem, of course, is that these questions are hard to answer. The only way to answer them is for there to be an attack on a plane. If there were an attack on a plane in spite of them, we'd know they don't work. If there were an attack on a plane and we had stopped using them,we still wouldn't be sure the methods would have thwarted the attack but I bet all those people on the plane and their families would be wishing the government had done something more to have protected them even if it involved what you choose to call "groping".
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| -What the TSA controversy is all about-Another attack on the left |
Politics_Guy25 |
Nov-27-10 04:14 PM |
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You're right -- that's why Faux, Limbaugh, and the Drudge Report |
pnwmom |
Nov-27-10 04:36 PM |
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DrToast |
Nov-27-10 04:38 PM |
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Next question, why is the left buying into it? |
jaxx |
Nov-27-10 04:42 PM |
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Because although they think they are the progressive left ... |
frazzled |
Nov-27-10 11:12 PM |
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Seems to me the "right wing fear talk" is saying we need to submit |
Union Scribe |
Nov-28-10 06:20 AM |
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"indecencies" |
boppers |
Nov-28-10 06:53 AM |
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I literally have no idea what you're talking about. |
Union Scribe |
Nov-28-10 08:24 AM |
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Let's focus on one aspect. Ankles. |
boppers |
Nov-28-10 08:56 AM |
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If a Republican says something true, I'm not going to say it's false because he has ulterior motives |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-27-10 05:01 PM |
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wrong |
frylock |
Nov-27-10 08:13 PM |
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A lot of progressives don't want to live in a police state |
LittleBlue |
Nov-27-10 08:38 PM |
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I think most progressives are all about a police state, |
Phx_Dem |
Nov-27-10 09:10 PM |
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+1 million |
treestar |
Nov-27-10 10:19 PM |
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So, you were for these anti-constitutional abuses when Bush |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-28-10 05:54 PM |
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Wow. |
Union Scribe |
Nov-27-10 10:52 PM |
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This is the view of a supposed Democrat??? |
NorthCarolina |
Nov-28-10 04:55 PM |
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+100000000000 |
woo me with science |
Nov-27-10 09:32 PM |
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I'm wondering where this "police state" is that you speak of. |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-27-10 11:03 PM |
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I tend to agree with you... |
Fruittree |
Nov-27-10 09:12 PM |
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So true if only it could be discussed rationally. |
treestar |
Nov-27-10 10:17 PM |
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Exactly - it seems to happen with every issue where |
Fruittree |
Nov-28-10 05:36 AM |
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If anybody else decided to pat down your crotch |
LisaL |
Nov-27-10 10:21 PM |
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But this isn't just anybody else - there's a purpose or |
Fruittree |
Nov-28-10 05:36 AM |
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I am pretty sure that terrorists among us are rare and far between. |
LisaL |
Nov-28-10 12:33 PM |
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I agree with you as to the number of terrorists and that's why I said |
Fruittree |
Nov-28-10 01:16 PM |
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If the TSA stops doing what it's doing |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Nov-27-10 10:33 PM |
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And if it doesn't stop what it's doing and we get hit, what then? |
LisaL |
Nov-27-10 10:39 PM |
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Probably not |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Nov-27-10 10:58 PM |
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I am all for safety but I personally find methods TSA has started |
LisaL |
Nov-27-10 11:01 PM |
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Is it your view that (say) only folk between the ages of 15 and 55 should be screened? |
struggle4progress |
Nov-28-10 11:32 AM |
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I keep reading this and it's absurd |
Union Scribe |
Nov-27-10 10:55 PM |
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Sorry, that's not what the poster is saying ... at all. |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-27-10 10:58 PM |
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Truth. |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-27-10 10:54 PM |
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Is there any theoretical TSA rule which would be too far? |
Eric J in MN |
Nov-28-10 03:22 PM |
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Thanks Jefferson-dem |
Politics_Guy25 |
Nov-28-10 04:20 PM |
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take it up with the aclu |
frylock |
Nov-28-10 12:13 PM |
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My problem with TSA is they are always behind the curve & |
golfguru |
Nov-28-10 01:23 PM |
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We know exactly what the story is about |
pmorlan1 |
Nov-28-10 02:25 PM |
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So this BS is OK as long as our side does it. Gotcha! |
Odin2005 |
Nov-28-10 03:16 PM |
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Maybe airlines are a luxury we can no longer afford |
saras |
Nov-28-10 04:11 PM |
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When did Democrats jump ship on this issue? When did 'we' decide |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-28-10 04:16 PM |
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Man you just exposed all hypocrites /nt |
golfguru |
Nov-28-10 05:10 PM |
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all pretty obvious |
Skittles |
Nov-28-10 11:37 PM |
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The TSA under Bush was throwing out your Dr. Pepper, not finger-banging your kids. |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Nov-29-10 12:22 AM |
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You're right. |
Union Scribe |
Nov-29-10 04:22 AM |
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I truely believe... |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Nov-29-10 09:45 AM |
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Remember when Obama started warrantless wiretaps? Oh, wait. That was Bush. n/t |
Beartracks |
Nov-29-10 01:16 AM |
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