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Wed Nov-24-10 11:52 PM
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| 110. You are mistaken about some key facts. |
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Obama is decreasing the military budget and has proposed decreasing it even more in the next few years.
Obama has already done more to get us off of fossil fuels than Carter did, and he's fighting for more.
The Carter Doctrine provided the justification for the wars in oil-rich countries like Iraq. Obama is getting us out of Iraq and has a limited timetable for leaving Afghanistan.
Obama is repealing DADT this year, as he pledged to do.
He ordered the closing of Guantanamo.
He ended Bush torture policies and added judicial oversight to extraordinary rendition.
Your cliche talking points are hollow. Obama is increasing government oversight of every sector of the economy. Carter did not do that as successfully as Obama. Here on planet earth, increasing government regulation of corporations does not make one a "right-wing corporatist." Wake up!
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| -The most progressive President in 40 years. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 08:19 PM |
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Rec'd. Good post. I wonder if we're capable of doing |
babylonsister |
Nov-22-10 08:28 PM |
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And since I'm on the topic. Getting me discouraged is the goal. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 08:33 PM |
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I would love to recommend this post. |
blue neen |
Nov-22-10 09:07 PM |
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Well Said, Bud! |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 09:49 AM |
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+10000000. Why won't anyone see this one fact? |
political_Dem |
Nov-27-10 06:53 AM |
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Anyone who doubts Obama's commitment to progressive change |
The_Casual_Observer |
Nov-22-10 08:34 PM |
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He does have a long record. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 08:37 PM |
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It's a solid record. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Nov-22-10 08:43 PM |
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When Obama does something progressive |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:23 PM |
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The "Problem" Is That It's Not IN YOUR FACE EXCITING Change |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 10:06 AM |
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exactly. change is incremental. Social Security wasn't the program it is now |
Windy |
Nov-22-10 08:45 PM |
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The politics of Hope and Change have run into the reality of a government designed for slow change |
mikekohr |
Nov-22-10 10:55 PM |
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"the only way it's been done in America for two-hundred and twenty-one years" |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:38 PM |
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Educate us, please. Just exactly what is happening? |
txlibdem |
Nov-24-10 12:51 AM |
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Try getting health insurance if over 50. Oh, wait until 2014. |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 08:44 PM |
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2014 is better than the never you would have under any other circumstances. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Nov-22-10 08:46 PM |
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Right. Fall down the steps.. |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 08:48 PM |
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The whole system wasn't ever going to change to suit the unisured. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Nov-22-10 08:56 PM |
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Nov-22-10 09:01 PM |
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Sure that happened to a person or two in say 2005 |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:35 AM |
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You ought to be ashamed. |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 09:27 PM |
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why should they be ashamed? |
OhioBlue |
Nov-27-10 12:21 AM |
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Are you covered? |
_ed_ |
Nov-23-10 04:19 PM |
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Because the US Senate sucks. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 08:46 PM |
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Because he said 'hold his feet to the fire' |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 09:18 PM |
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A popular cliche. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 10:06 PM |
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Truman was wrong |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:38 AM |
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And has there ever been such deliberate obstruction? |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:37 AM |
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And even with "coverage" you still may not be able to afford care |
dflprincess |
Nov-22-10 09:57 PM |
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Obama proposed something progressive. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 10:19 PM |
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this type of argument is a deliberate failure to understand how things |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:39 AM |
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Well, tell me how it will work for someone who can only afford |
dflprincess |
Nov-23-10 12:40 PM |
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Try being a slave in say 1834. |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:33 AM |
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Give Me A Break!!! It Was All 24th Dimensional Chess So He Could Convince YOU He WASN'T Really A |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 09:43 AM |
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excellent!!! |
Windy |
Nov-22-10 08:42 PM |
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Oh, we who put him in office are the failures? |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 09:25 PM |
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Politics involves organized action. Our opponents are organized. If we aren't, we lose. |
struggle4progress |
Nov-22-10 09:31 PM |
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+1 |
OhioBlue |
Nov-27-10 12:24 AM |
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+10000000. And there are some forces at play who don't want us to organize. |
political_Dem |
Nov-27-10 07:01 AM |
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K&R |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-10 08:48 PM |
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hah |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 09:08 PM |
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But Krugman said he's a conservative, so i guess it's true |
impik |
Nov-22-10 08:57 PM |
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Unbelievable. |
bigwillq |
Nov-23-10 08:20 AM |
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Thanks for the reminder that HE never said it would be easy! |
MindandSoul |
Nov-22-10 09:21 PM |
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Nobody sat back. |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 09:22 PM |
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Simply beautiful. Thanks, Rad. |
Number23 |
Nov-22-10 09:23 PM |
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"I .. ask you join in the work ... block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand" |
struggle4progress |
Nov-22-10 09:27 PM |
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I love that picture. |
pa28 |
Nov-22-10 09:38 PM |
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The movement can never be |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 10:11 PM |
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K/R. |
proteus_lives |
Nov-22-10 10:32 PM |
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"as if change is something they can watch happen on a screen." |
Clio the Leo |
Nov-22-10 10:43 PM |
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Thanks. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:02 PM |
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Excellent post nt |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-22-10 10:58 PM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Nov-22-10 11:06 PM |
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I'm not surprised you think this president is progressive |
ibegurpard |
Nov-22-10 11:13 PM |
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Of course. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:19 PM |
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that he does |
ibegurpard |
Nov-22-10 11:28 PM |
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I'm not sure when Republicans last favored |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:31 PM |
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Yeah, all the way to Nixon |
Hawkowl |
Nov-23-10 12:44 AM |
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Things forced on him by a Democratic Congress when he was politically weak |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 12:47 AM |
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He could have vetoed |
Hawkowl |
Nov-23-10 12:54 AM |
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Obama already did more for the environment than Nixon. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 01:06 AM |
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Fake legislation |
Hawkowl |
Nov-23-10 01:52 AM |
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EPA regulation of CO2, |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 02:00 AM |
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Hey, this thread already got 45 recs. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:43 PM |
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Nov-23-10 12:12 AM |
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Thanks. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 12:36 AM |
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Yummy! This beer is the tastiest thing I've drank in the last 5 minutes. nt |
Umbral |
Nov-23-10 02:08 AM |
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What kind? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 02:16 AM |
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K (& already, earlier, R)! thank you for this beautiful and moving |
nofurylike |
Nov-23-10 02:27 AM |
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Who promised change? |
jeanpalmer |
Nov-23-10 03:14 AM |
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Then one shouldn't delude oneself into thinking he's "completely failed to do his job". |
JTFrog |
Nov-23-10 07:03 AM |
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Do you support his wars? |
jeanpalmer |
Nov-23-10 07:45 PM |
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He didn't start either war. |
JTFrog |
Nov-24-10 07:08 AM |
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Nov-24-10 07:40 PM |
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Sounds very passive |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:51 AM |
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When he escalated the war |
jeanpalmer |
Nov-23-10 07:44 PM |
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First, Obama said constantly during the election |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 11:07 AM |
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Nov-23-10 07:41 PM |
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No, he didn't do it alone. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:50 AM |
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Nov-24-10 07:45 PM |
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What exactly do you dispute? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 11:46 PM |
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You don't understand the necessity to delude oneself |
OhioBlue |
Nov-27-10 12:30 AM |
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Big K&R ..... the insight to what is really happening is worth the read. |
jaxx |
Nov-23-10 05:57 AM |
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I thought that Obama said change would come quickly and easily |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-23-10 06:51 AM |
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You weren't the only one. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 01:25 PM |
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K&R! |
JTFrog |
Nov-23-10 06:57 AM |
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Whew. |
dbmk |
Nov-23-10 07:43 AM |
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Well, |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 11:18 AM |
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Rec'd. Love that photo! |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:30 AM |
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Oh Please, Everyone Knows His Whole Activist Past Was Part Of Some Giant 24th Dimensional Chess |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 09:41 AM |
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And he has been working on his evil plan since birth! |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:49 AM |
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You Know What's Sad? |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 09:51 AM |
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Just goes to show you that foreigners can still come to America |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-23-10 10:19 AM |
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Yeah he was but other progressive presidents were persuasive or had a huge coalition |
craigmatic |
Nov-23-10 10:04 AM |
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It's a shame, but |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 11:21 AM |
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It's partly his own fault. He needs to have his own spokespeople out there more or use the cabinet. |
craigmatic |
Nov-23-10 03:22 PM |
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this stuff only hurts the president |
Enrique |
Nov-23-10 10:24 AM |
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Interesting approach. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 10:51 AM |
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I'll say again what I said during the primaries... |
Enrique |
Nov-23-10 11:22 AM |
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Obama is as far left |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 11:34 AM |
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omg, what laughable bullshit. |
inna |
Nov-24-10 01:44 AM |
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Work on your reading comprehension. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:19 PM |
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Another "Blame the soldiers for the Failures of Leadership" thread? |
bvar22 |
Nov-23-10 04:14 PM |
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Swing voters should not have to do reasearch in order to determine that Govt. is working for them. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-23-10 04:28 PM |
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Of course this post is aimed at DU. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:45 AM |
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Soldiers? Do you see yourself as a foot soldier? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 01:48 PM |
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In other news, "Radical Activist" is indeed, the most radical activist we've seen in 40 years. n/t |
Dr Fate |
Nov-23-10 04:21 PM |
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Thank you. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:46 AM |
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That post is a riot! After the first sentence, I couldn't stop laughing... |
DutchLiberal |
Nov-23-10 07:27 PM |
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Can you name which President in 40 years was more progressive? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:42 AM |
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Jimmy Carter... |
DutchLiberal |
Nov-24-10 08:14 PM |
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You are mistaken about some key facts. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 11:52 PM |
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Not true on all points... |
DutchLiberal |
Nov-25-10 06:41 PM |
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You're deluding youself |
Radical Activist |
Nov-26-10 12:51 AM |
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Nov-26-10 06:10 PM |
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yeah, pretty funny shit. |
inna |
Nov-24-10 01:38 AM |
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Why? |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-26-10 06:46 PM |
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K&R |
Phx_Dem |
Nov-24-10 08:36 AM |
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Great thread, K + R nt |
flamingdem |
Nov-25-10 12:32 AM |
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There's no denying it he is the most forward thinking Pres. in 40 years. Might not be as forward as |
DemocraticPilgrim |
Nov-25-10 01:42 AM |
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What if you believe the efforts aren't in good faith? |
Milo_Bloom |
Nov-25-10 07:37 PM |
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I'd say Jimmy Carter was more progressive |
brownsugar |
Nov-26-10 07:26 AM |
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OP: You are probably right, and that is a real fucking shame...nt |
old mark |
Nov-26-10 04:11 PM |
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This is so sad to see. "Most Progressive President in 40 years." |
KoKo |
Nov-26-10 06:45 PM |
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sheesh, that's what you consider "the most progressive"?? |
ima_sinnic |
Nov-26-10 07:00 PM |
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Is this supposed to convince progressives or bash them? |
Union Scribe |
Nov-27-10 04:38 AM |
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Progressive as in progressively dragging us to the right? n/t |
cornermouse |
Nov-27-10 05:46 AM |
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