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Tue Nov-23-10 10:06 AM
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| 75. The "Problem" Is That It's Not IN YOUR FACE EXCITING Change |
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It's systemic and important, but Kathleen Sebelius' and Elizabeth Warren's authoring of OMB Circulars doesn't really capture MOST people's imagination or attention.
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| -The most progressive President in 40 years. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 08:19 PM |
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Rec'd. Good post. I wonder if we're capable of doing |
babylonsister |
Nov-22-10 08:28 PM |
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And since I'm on the topic. Getting me discouraged is the goal. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 08:33 PM |
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I would love to recommend this post. |
blue neen |
Nov-22-10 09:07 PM |
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Well Said, Bud! |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 09:49 AM |
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+10000000. Why won't anyone see this one fact? |
political_Dem |
Nov-27-10 06:53 AM |
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Anyone who doubts Obama's commitment to progressive change |
The_Casual_Observer |
Nov-22-10 08:34 PM |
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He does have a long record. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 08:37 PM |
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It's a solid record. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Nov-22-10 08:43 PM |
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When Obama does something progressive |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:23 PM |
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The "Problem" Is That It's Not IN YOUR FACE EXCITING Change |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 10:06 AM |
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exactly. change is incremental. Social Security wasn't the program it is now |
Windy |
Nov-22-10 08:45 PM |
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The politics of Hope and Change have run into the reality of a government designed for slow change |
mikekohr |
Nov-22-10 10:55 PM |
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"the only way it's been done in America for two-hundred and twenty-one years" |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:38 PM |
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Educate us, please. Just exactly what is happening? |
txlibdem |
Nov-24-10 12:51 AM |
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Try getting health insurance if over 50. Oh, wait until 2014. |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 08:44 PM |
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2014 is better than the never you would have under any other circumstances. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Nov-22-10 08:46 PM |
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Right. Fall down the steps.. |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 08:48 PM |
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The whole system wasn't ever going to change to suit the unisured. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Nov-22-10 08:56 PM |
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Nov-22-10 09:01 PM |
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Sure that happened to a person or two in say 2005 |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:35 AM |
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You ought to be ashamed. |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 09:27 PM |
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why should they be ashamed? |
OhioBlue |
Nov-27-10 12:21 AM |
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Are you covered? |
_ed_ |
Nov-23-10 04:19 PM |
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Because the US Senate sucks. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 08:46 PM |
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Because he said 'hold his feet to the fire' |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 09:18 PM |
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A popular cliche. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 10:06 PM |
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Truman was wrong |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:38 AM |
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And has there ever been such deliberate obstruction? |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:37 AM |
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And even with "coverage" you still may not be able to afford care |
dflprincess |
Nov-22-10 09:57 PM |
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Obama proposed something progressive. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 10:19 PM |
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this type of argument is a deliberate failure to understand how things |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:39 AM |
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Well, tell me how it will work for someone who can only afford |
dflprincess |
Nov-23-10 12:40 PM |
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Try being a slave in say 1834. |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:33 AM |
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Give Me A Break!!! It Was All 24th Dimensional Chess So He Could Convince YOU He WASN'T Really A |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 09:43 AM |
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excellent!!! |
Windy |
Nov-22-10 08:42 PM |
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Oh, we who put him in office are the failures? |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 09:25 PM |
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Politics involves organized action. Our opponents are organized. If we aren't, we lose. |
struggle4progress |
Nov-22-10 09:31 PM |
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+1 |
OhioBlue |
Nov-27-10 12:24 AM |
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+10000000. And there are some forces at play who don't want us to organize. |
political_Dem |
Nov-27-10 07:01 AM |
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K&R |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-22-10 08:48 PM |
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hah |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 09:08 PM |
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But Krugman said he's a conservative, so i guess it's true |
impik |
Nov-22-10 08:57 PM |
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Unbelievable. |
bigwillq |
Nov-23-10 08:20 AM |
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Thanks for the reminder that HE never said it would be easy! |
MindandSoul |
Nov-22-10 09:21 PM |
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Nobody sat back. |
Mimosa |
Nov-22-10 09:22 PM |
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Simply beautiful. Thanks, Rad. |
Number23 |
Nov-22-10 09:23 PM |
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"I .. ask you join in the work ... block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand" |
struggle4progress |
Nov-22-10 09:27 PM |
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I love that picture. |
pa28 |
Nov-22-10 09:38 PM |
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The movement can never be |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 10:11 PM |
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K/R. |
proteus_lives |
Nov-22-10 10:32 PM |
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"as if change is something they can watch happen on a screen." |
Clio the Leo |
Nov-22-10 10:43 PM |
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Thanks. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:02 PM |
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Excellent post nt |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-22-10 10:58 PM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Nov-22-10 11:06 PM |
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I'm not surprised you think this president is progressive |
ibegurpard |
Nov-22-10 11:13 PM |
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Of course. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:19 PM |
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that he does |
ibegurpard |
Nov-22-10 11:28 PM |
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I'm not sure when Republicans last favored |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:31 PM |
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Yeah, all the way to Nixon |
Hawkowl |
Nov-23-10 12:44 AM |
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Things forced on him by a Democratic Congress when he was politically weak |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 12:47 AM |
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He could have vetoed |
Hawkowl |
Nov-23-10 12:54 AM |
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Obama already did more for the environment than Nixon. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 01:06 AM |
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Fake legislation |
Hawkowl |
Nov-23-10 01:52 AM |
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EPA regulation of CO2, |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 02:00 AM |
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Hey, this thread already got 45 recs. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:43 PM |
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Nov-23-10 12:12 AM |
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Thanks. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 12:36 AM |
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Yummy! This beer is the tastiest thing I've drank in the last 5 minutes. nt |
Umbral |
Nov-23-10 02:08 AM |
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What kind? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 02:16 AM |
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K (& already, earlier, R)! thank you for this beautiful and moving |
nofurylike |
Nov-23-10 02:27 AM |
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Who promised change? |
jeanpalmer |
Nov-23-10 03:14 AM |
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Then one shouldn't delude oneself into thinking he's "completely failed to do his job". |
JTFrog |
Nov-23-10 07:03 AM |
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Do you support his wars? |
jeanpalmer |
Nov-23-10 07:45 PM |
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He didn't start either war. |
JTFrog |
Nov-24-10 07:08 AM |
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Nov-24-10 07:40 PM |
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Sounds very passive |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:51 AM |
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When he escalated the war |
jeanpalmer |
Nov-23-10 07:44 PM |
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First, Obama said constantly during the election |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 11:07 AM |
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Nov-23-10 07:41 PM |
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No, he didn't do it alone. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:50 AM |
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Nov-24-10 07:45 PM |
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What exactly do you dispute? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 11:46 PM |
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You don't understand the necessity to delude oneself |
OhioBlue |
Nov-27-10 12:30 AM |
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Big K&R ..... the insight to what is really happening is worth the read. |
jaxx |
Nov-23-10 05:57 AM |
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I thought that Obama said change would come quickly and easily |
CTLawGuy |
Nov-23-10 06:51 AM |
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You weren't the only one. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 01:25 PM |
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K&R! |
JTFrog |
Nov-23-10 06:57 AM |
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Whew. |
dbmk |
Nov-23-10 07:43 AM |
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Well, |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 11:18 AM |
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Rec'd. Love that photo! |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:30 AM |
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Oh Please, Everyone Knows His Whole Activist Past Was Part Of Some Giant 24th Dimensional Chess |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 09:41 AM |
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And he has been working on his evil plan since birth! |
treestar |
Nov-23-10 09:49 AM |
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You Know What's Sad? |
Beetwasher |
Nov-23-10 09:51 AM |
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Just goes to show you that foreigners can still come to America |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-23-10 10:19 AM |
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Yeah he was but other progressive presidents were persuasive or had a huge coalition |
craigmatic |
Nov-23-10 10:04 AM |
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It's a shame, but |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 11:21 AM |
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It's partly his own fault. He needs to have his own spokespeople out there more or use the cabinet. |
craigmatic |
Nov-23-10 03:22 PM |
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this stuff only hurts the president |
Enrique |
Nov-23-10 10:24 AM |
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Interesting approach. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 10:51 AM |
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I'll say again what I said during the primaries... |
Enrique |
Nov-23-10 11:22 AM |
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Obama is as far left |
Radical Activist |
Nov-23-10 11:34 AM |
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omg, what laughable bullshit. |
inna |
Nov-24-10 01:44 AM |
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Work on your reading comprehension. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:19 PM |
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Another "Blame the soldiers for the Failures of Leadership" thread? |
bvar22 |
Nov-23-10 04:14 PM |
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Swing voters should not have to do reasearch in order to determine that Govt. is working for them. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-23-10 04:28 PM |
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Of course this post is aimed at DU. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:45 AM |
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Soldiers? Do you see yourself as a foot soldier? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 01:48 PM |
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In other news, "Radical Activist" is indeed, the most radical activist we've seen in 40 years. n/t |
Dr Fate |
Nov-23-10 04:21 PM |
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Thank you. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:46 AM |
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That post is a riot! After the first sentence, I couldn't stop laughing... |
DutchLiberal |
Nov-23-10 07:27 PM |
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Can you name which President in 40 years was more progressive? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 12:42 AM |
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Jimmy Carter... |
DutchLiberal |
Nov-24-10 08:14 PM |
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You are mistaken about some key facts. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-24-10 11:52 PM |
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Not true on all points... |
DutchLiberal |
Nov-25-10 06:41 PM |
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You're deluding youself |
Radical Activist |
Nov-26-10 12:51 AM |
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Nov-26-10 06:10 PM |
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yeah, pretty funny shit. |
inna |
Nov-24-10 01:38 AM |
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Why? |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-26-10 06:46 PM |
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K&R |
Phx_Dem |
Nov-24-10 08:36 AM |
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Great thread, K + R nt |
flamingdem |
Nov-25-10 12:32 AM |
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There's no denying it he is the most forward thinking Pres. in 40 years. Might not be as forward as |
DemocraticPilgrim |
Nov-25-10 01:42 AM |
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What if you believe the efforts aren't in good faith? |
Milo_Bloom |
Nov-25-10 07:37 PM |
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I'd say Jimmy Carter was more progressive |
brownsugar |
Nov-26-10 07:26 AM |
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OP: You are probably right, and that is a real fucking shame...nt |
old mark |
Nov-26-10 04:11 PM |
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This is so sad to see. "Most Progressive President in 40 years." |
KoKo |
Nov-26-10 06:45 PM |
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sheesh, that's what you consider "the most progressive"?? |
ima_sinnic |
Nov-26-10 07:00 PM |
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Is this supposed to convince progressives or bash them? |
Union Scribe |
Nov-27-10 04:38 AM |
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Progressive as in progressively dragging us to the right? n/t |
cornermouse |
Nov-27-10 05:46 AM |
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