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Mon Nov-15-10 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
| 42. What part of "We did not/do not/will not have the votes" dont you understand? |
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Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 03:30 PM by Dr Fate
Obama is only the presdient- all he can do is COUNT the votes to see if they are there.
They were not/are not/will not be there.
Obama can do math- he COUNTED the votes, then he counted them again, but the far left just kept on complaining and trying to make him do really, really hard stuff.
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| -John Harwood just set the record straight to Cenk Uygur. |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:21 PM |
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No, the best he can get is NO TAX CUT EXTENSION for the rich. |
damntexdem |
Nov-15-10 02:24 PM |
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What happens to the top 2% is more important then what happens to the bottom 98%? |
Pirate Smile |
Nov-15-10 02:26 PM |
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Seems to me that taking 700 billion out of the pockets of the bottom |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 02:32 PM |
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Letting the 2% keep the tax break or let taxes go up for borderline poor people. |
phleshdef |
Nov-15-10 02:41 PM |
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Then let them all expire. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 03:21 PM |
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Poor people don't have to pay Income taxes... |
ProudDad |
Nov-15-10 04:32 PM |
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So, because of the conservadems, you're no longer going to support the Dem. Party? |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:28 PM |
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One can support individual candidates without supporting the Party apparatus |
saracat |
Nov-15-10 02:32 PM |
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The poster didn't mince words: |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:39 PM |
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Still, my point is , support of the Democratic Party isn't the same as support of its principles |
saracat |
Nov-15-10 02:48 PM |
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He said what HE said-not what YOU said. n/t |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:51 PM |
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Well, all I am saying is that what I said is one "interpetation" of what he said. |
saracat |
Nov-15-10 03:13 PM |
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Democratic Underground supports Dems. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 05:28 PM |
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The poster said: |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 09:10 PM |
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Oh stop it with your little witch hunt. Think you're Stalin or something? |
martymar64 |
Nov-16-10 06:26 PM |
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It's not like a penis extension. An entirely new bill is required to "extend" anything. eom |
Billy Burnett |
Nov-15-10 02:32 PM |
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actually, presidents have the power to pound senators and congressweenies |
roguevalley |
Nov-15-10 04:41 PM |
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That's fucking pathetic |
Jackpine Radical |
Nov-15-10 02:24 PM |
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If by "pathetic" you mean "par for the course." |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-15-10 02:25 PM |
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A tax cut for the first $200 K is a tax cut for EVERYONE making anything. The RICH WANT MORE |
Vincardog |
Nov-15-10 02:27 PM |
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That is absolutely true, and overlooked. |
Jackpine Radical |
Nov-15-10 02:53 PM |
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A tax cut at every level except their own. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-15-10 02:55 PM |
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heck, they were already bringing most of the rich along for the ride |
hfojvt |
Nov-15-10 02:35 PM |
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The received wisdom is that the poor don't vote. |
Jackpine Radical |
Nov-15-10 02:55 PM |
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as long as the voters are motivated by self interest as well |
hfojvt |
Nov-15-10 05:11 PM |
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The anti Obama DUers.... |
dennis4868 |
Nov-15-10 02:26 PM |
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Yup... |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:29 PM |
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Exactly....nonsense worse works for them. n/t |
vaberella |
Nov-16-10 12:14 PM |
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Whatever he gets, if it includes tax cuts for the fat cats he needs to |
Vinca |
Nov-15-10 02:31 PM |
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He has to acknowledge the reality of the situation... |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:33 PM |
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He's going to have to do the same for the Democrats. |
vaberella |
Nov-16-10 12:14 PM |
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but as party leader with record majorities, |
veganlush |
Nov-15-10 02:31 PM |
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He didn't/doesn't because the conservadems care more about themselves than |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:34 PM |
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"31 of the 39 House Dems who voted against the health care bill....." |
Clio the Leo |
Nov-15-10 02:54 PM |
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Yep. |
dreamnightwind |
Nov-15-10 05:42 PM |
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What part of "We did not/do not/will not have the votes" dont you understand? |
Dr Fate |
Nov-15-10 03:21 PM |
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What part of "bully pulpit" do you need explained...? |
ProudDad |
Nov-15-10 04:36 PM |
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Some DUers have this fantasy that the "bully pulpit" |
treestar |
Nov-15-10 04:46 PM |
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Then you're saying that Obama did NOT want to do anything really Progressive |
ProudDad |
Nov-15-10 06:19 PM |
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Er, what? |
treestar |
Nov-16-10 09:33 PM |
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He hasn't because he has been to cowardly to use his power... |
ProudDad |
Nov-15-10 04:35 PM |
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Way overbroad and it has been explained many times that |
treestar |
Nov-15-10 04:47 PM |
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I guess you just don't understand "Hardball" politics... |
ProudDad |
Nov-15-10 06:22 PM |
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That's because there was a real filibuster in those days |
treestar |
Nov-16-10 09:31 PM |
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People would rather thaink Obama is a Republican than consider... |
Ozymanithrax |
Nov-15-10 02:31 PM |
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exactly nt |
Clio the Leo |
Nov-15-10 02:52 PM |
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he doesn't have votes because he doesn't try |
veganlush |
Nov-15-10 02:34 PM |
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Did you not see ANY of his MANY speeches where he |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:36 PM |
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After he started off caving to the blue dogs over HCR, what credible |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 02:41 PM |
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You obviously don't consider yourself an Obama supporter. |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:45 PM |
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He caved. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 03:08 PM |
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He spoke out against tax cut extensions for the rich for months. |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 03:15 PM |
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Nov-15-10 03:32 PM |
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Who said he can do no wrong? |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 03:42 PM |
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OK, tell me what YOU think he's done wrong. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 05:26 PM |
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Every time someone challenges me to tell them what I think he's done wrong, I tell them. |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 05:54 PM |
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How about this? |
ProudDad |
Nov-15-10 04:38 PM |
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So you say. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 05:25 PM |
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So I KNOW. |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 06:06 PM |
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I didn't say 'you' - I said 'anybody'. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-16-10 09:25 AM |
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Fighting and losing might do good for your ego but |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-15-10 04:49 PM |
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yes, but the electorate |
veganlush |
Nov-15-10 04:26 PM |
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What is - |
treestar |
Nov-15-10 04:45 PM |
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Well said nt |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-15-10 04:52 PM |
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he's the party leader. he could insist |
veganlush |
Nov-15-10 05:00 PM |
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Hahahaha. |
vaberella |
Nov-16-10 12:20 PM |
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Ignorance is bliss |
treestar |
Nov-16-10 09:35 PM |
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"Twisting Arms"? |
bvar22 |
Nov-16-10 10:07 AM |
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sounds like the mob |
treestar |
Nov-16-10 09:34 PM |
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NO... |
bvar22 |
Nov-17-10 10:00 AM |
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Where the do you get your information? Seriously. n/t |
vaberella |
Nov-16-10 12:15 PM |
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OK, which makes Obama look weaker? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 02:38 PM |
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Cenk doesn't have to be correct, he just has to be LOUD... |
Clio the Leo |
Nov-15-10 02:50 PM |
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Exactly. And it's much easier to complain loudly than to govern. n/t |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:52 PM |
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Just like it's easier to complain on a message board... |
Clio the Leo |
Nov-15-10 02:55 PM |
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Yup... |
jenmito |
Nov-15-10 02:59 PM |
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Cenk is an asshat. n/t |
Phx_Dem |
Nov-15-10 02:58 PM |
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. |
JTFrog |
Nov-16-10 04:40 AM |
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THANK YOU. It is Obama's job to COUNT the votes, not to fight for them. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-15-10 03:18 PM |
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What part of "bully pulpit" do you need explained...? |
ProudDad |
Nov-15-10 04:29 PM |
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That you would even say, let alone believe, that just shows how bankrupt the 'centrist' |
Greyhound |
Nov-16-10 03:39 AM |
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The numbers: $48 for low income, $880 for middle class and $363,000 for top earners. |
stopbush |
Nov-15-10 03:38 PM |
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Now that's a patriotic statement... |
ProudDad |
Nov-15-10 04:42 PM |
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Thank you for the clarity. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-15-10 05:19 PM |
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The problem is there are very few places in the media |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-15-10 04:54 PM |
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The middle class will scream if you let their taxes go up. Period. |
JoePhilly |
Nov-16-10 10:42 AM |
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Then let them keep theirs. Problem solved, unless we have an excuse. I'll bet we do. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-16-10 11:46 AM |
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Blue Dogs are working with the GOP on this ... scare rhe middle class ... |
JoePhilly |
Nov-17-10 02:28 PM |
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K&R! |
JTFrog |
Nov-16-10 04:35 AM |
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jenmito...Have you ever done a "Google" of John Harwood? |
KoKo |
Nov-16-10 06:52 PM |
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When he's right he's right: |
jenmito |
Nov-16-10 07:02 PM |
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Do the GOOGLE! |
KoKo |
Nov-16-10 07:09 PM |
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YOU do it! And show me what you want to show me. n/t |
jenmito |
Nov-16-10 07:19 PM |
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How about this...NO TAX CUTS FOR ANYONE |
Timmy5835 |
Nov-17-10 12:26 PM |
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Cenk of the "Obama is more conservative than Reagan" comment has zero credibility. |
jefferson_dem |
Nov-17-10 12:42 PM |
#94 |
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