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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:19 PM
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83. Obama and Hillary are BOTH centrists, but Hillary is slightly to the right of Obama.
The thing that pisses me off about my fellow liberals is that they somehow bought into the false meme that Obama was/is a liberal. He was not! Had they done their homework rather than fall for the okey-doke, they would have known this and not be so angry.

Neither Obama nor Hillary were top on my list, and in fact, it took me a long time to get on board with the Obama train, but the only reason I could never support HIllary is because she is too conservative for me. I don't hate her. I hate her policies. And I'm beginning to really hate Obama's policies as well.
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  -Why do the net root progressives hate President Obama? angee_is_mad  Nov-13-10 05:15 PM   #0 
  - They do not hate Obama. Some are dissappointed but I would  OHdem10   Nov-13-10 05:20 PM   #1 
  - I've seen the word "despise" used here, so don't claim that  CakeGrrl   Nov-13-10 05:24 PM   #4 
  - I would argue that it's not just progressives. I think there are segments of every  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-14-10 03:59 PM   #77 
  - Seriously?  impik   Nov-13-10 05:27 PM   #5 
     - So people "hate" a president.  bigwillq   Nov-13-10 05:36 PM   #15 
        - at least you admit it  angee_is_mad   Nov-13-10 05:45 PM   #16 
           - I don't like him on some issues  bigwillq   Nov-13-10 05:50 PM   #17 
           - boner, palin, cantor agree with you  angee_is_mad   Nov-13-10 06:01 PM   #18 
              - I don't understand why some, like you,  bigwillq   Nov-13-10 06:05 PM   #19 
              - Exactly  ampad   Nov-13-10 08:04 PM   #35 
              - Those who do that  bigwillq   Nov-13-10 08:08 PM   #36 
              - TELL. IT.  Number23   Nov-15-10 03:51 AM   #99 
              - I don't need everyone to approve of President Obama  WonderGrunion   Nov-14-10 01:49 PM   #65 
                 - No.  bigwillq   Nov-14-10 05:38 PM   #87 
              - So...  muffin1   Nov-13-10 09:04 PM   #45 
                 - Good post.  bigwillq   Nov-13-10 09:11 PM   #47 
           - If they hate the president, my follow-up question would be a simple one...  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-14-10 04:01 PM   #78 
              - Obama isn't the only democrat in the country  bigwillq   Nov-14-10 05:30 PM   #85 
                 - Which leads me to another question, then...  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-14-10 08:34 PM   #93 
                    - I do understand.  bigwillq   Nov-14-10 09:44 PM   #94 
  - You're assuming  ProSense   Nov-13-10 05:24 PM   #2 
  - Offline yes  angee_is_mad   Nov-13-10 05:31 PM   #8 
     - Agreed  Top Cat   Nov-13-10 05:32 PM   #9 
     - +1  firedupdem   Nov-14-10 05:35 PM   #86 
  - They were never his supporters. They were in love with whatever  impik   Nov-13-10 05:24 PM   #3 
  - yeah.. and many take their messages as the gospel.  Top Cat   Nov-13-10 05:34 PM   #12 
  - I tend to agree with your assessment.  JoePhilly   Nov-13-10 06:56 PM   #27 
  - I think I heard the gangsta comment on Ed Shultz  ampad   Nov-13-10 08:20 PM   #41 
  - Thank you for saying out loud what a lot of folks are thinking.  political_Dem   Nov-14-10 02:46 AM   #55 
  - I appreciate your sharing those thoughts.  AspenRose   Nov-14-10 03:52 PM   #74 
  - You are very welcome.  political_Dem   Nov-14-10 04:05 PM   #81 
  - I have a question.  quakerboy   Nov-15-10 02:19 AM   #97 
  - I'd say that some have a problem with cultural understanding.  political_Dem   Nov-15-10 05:51 AM   #103 
     - Does that apply to anyone  quakerboy   Nov-16-10 12:58 AM   #110 
        - There are several things to consider when answering your question.  political_Dem   Nov-16-10 12:31 PM   #116 
           - I appreciate you continuing to discuss this with me.  quakerboy   Nov-16-10 08:42 PM   #117 
              - You are quite welcome. This is a fascinating discussion. :)  political_Dem   Nov-17-10 08:02 PM   #118 
  - I see that sentiment every damn day on this web site.  Number23   Nov-15-10 04:02 AM   #100 
     - The constant reference to Mr. Obama as an "experiment" and "employee" frustrated me to no end.  political_Dem   Nov-15-10 05:41 AM   #102 
        - Beautiful post. There are many who would accuse you of using the dreaded "race card"  Number23   Nov-15-10 03:31 PM   #104 
           - Thank you. Your post is just as spectacularly and very intelligently stated.  political_Dem   Nov-15-10 07:09 PM   #109 
  - I'm a black woman and I've caught myself exclaiming that Nancy Pelosi is "gangsta."  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-14-10 04:08 PM   #82 
  - He was a compromise candidate for many of them, simply put.  Jennicut   Nov-14-10 12:15 PM   #63 
  - The disrespect is amazing! I've never seen anything like it.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-14-10 04:04 PM   #80 
  - We seem to have an excess of hate in our country ..  spin   Nov-13-10 05:29 PM   #6 
  - I'm also confused it feels like freeperville sometimes on DU lately.  Top Cat   Nov-13-10 05:31 PM   #7 
  - can't blame it all on the freepers  angee_is_mad   Nov-13-10 05:33 PM   #10 
  - Progressives and liberals do not hate Obama. We just believe that he ..............  Exilednight   Nov-13-10 05:33 PM   #11 
  - Bloggers and messageboard posters are self-appointed  CJCRANE   Nov-13-10 05:34 PM   #13 
  - No complaints from me!  MrsCorleone   Nov-13-10 05:35 PM   #14 
  - Everyone I know loves Obama, too. We're a small 40-person progressive group  BlueCaliDem   Nov-13-10 06:06 PM   #20 
  - I'm not discounting race as an issue but it is important to note that Dems never win the white vote.  Pirate Smile   Nov-13-10 06:16 PM   #21 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-13-10 06:21 PM   #23 
  - that is actually untrue  dsc   Nov-13-10 08:14 PM   #38 
  - a big UNREC for implying YET AGAIN that DU critics are racist.  jonnyblitz   Nov-13-10 06:19 PM   #22 
  - Or that anyone critical of Obama is racist.  WorseBeforeBetter   Nov-13-10 07:20 PM   #30 
     - Yes, you half-racist MOFO!  bigwillq   Nov-13-10 07:56 PM   #34 
  - You are right- the rest of the voting public whole heartedly supports our centrist polices.  Dr Fate   Nov-13-10 06:23 PM   #24 
  - At first I thought you forgot the sarcasm tag  OnyxCollie   Nov-14-10 10:13 PM   #95 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-13-10 06:47 PM   #25 
  - A black thing?  Milo_Bloom   Nov-13-10 06:51 PM   #26 
  - Agreed. Progressives are racists? And he's half white.  sally cat   Nov-14-10 03:19 PM   #70 
     - I think it is the white half I don't like.  Milo_Bloom   Nov-14-10 03:29 PM   #72 
        - Funny.  sally cat   Nov-14-10 03:32 PM   #73 
  - 86% of liberal democrats support him  CTLawGuy   Nov-13-10 07:06 PM   #28 
  - Because they, like most right-wingers, believed he was a crypto-socialist  Azathoth   Nov-13-10 07:12 PM   #29 
  - So which is it ...........  Exilednight   Nov-13-10 07:34 PM   #31 
  - I say you exaggerate  Pamelita   Nov-13-10 07:39 PM   #32 
  - Haters. If memory serves, tossing out the accusation "haters" was a tactic of the right  Luminous Animal   Nov-13-10 07:50 PM   #33 
  - Hello.  bigwillq   Nov-13-10 08:09 PM   #37 
  - Absolutely. It isn't *hate*.  muffin1   Nov-13-10 09:08 PM   #46 
  - CORRECT  Skittles   Nov-14-10 05:10 AM   #58 
     - It's interesting that you bring up his SCOTUS picks ...........  Exilednight   Nov-14-10 09:08 AM   #62 
        - tell me more, please  Skittles   Nov-14-10 02:29 PM   #66 
           - Off the top of my head ........  Exilednight   Nov-14-10 07:36 PM   #89 
              - er..........WTF  Skittles   Nov-14-10 07:43 PM   #90 
                 - I went to c-span to look for the audio, but ..........  Exilednight   Nov-14-10 07:57 PM   #92 
  - Unrec.  VMI Dem   Nov-13-10 08:15 PM   #39 
  - Unrec...n/t  demmiblue   Nov-13-10 08:18 PM   #40 
  - Hi angee. What's the take in African-American communities on Obama at this point, generally?  pinto   Nov-13-10 08:42 PM   #42 
  - I Could Not Be A Bigger Critic...  Steely_Dan   Nov-13-10 08:48 PM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-13-10 08:50 PM   #44 
  - Of course there are some race issues but seeing the people that ran from Hillary  TheKentuckian   Nov-13-10 09:40 PM   #48 
  - yup...i was one of the "run from Hillary" voters  ibegurpard   Nov-14-10 12:05 AM   #52 
  - cough (bullshit) cough nt.  Warren Stupidity   Nov-13-10 09:57 PM   #49 
  - Religion, Wars, Nuclear Power, Coal, Wall Street Complicity, Health Care Mess, Serial Conciliation  PurityOfEssence   Nov-13-10 10:20 PM   #50 
  - If you are civics-challenged, you're bound not to really understand how politics works  zulchzulu   Nov-13-10 10:38 PM   #51 
  - Yup  jberryhill   Nov-14-10 01:39 AM   #54 
  - Most Progressives are not surprised...  ProudDad   Nov-14-10 02:40 PM   #68 
  - The answers have been SCREAMED IN YOUR FACE for months now  ibegurpard   Nov-14-10 12:20 AM   #53 
  - K and R. Thank you, Angee for asking the question.  political_Dem   Nov-14-10 03:04 AM   #56 
  - So, the ONLY problems people have with this man stem from race, privilege and power?  PurityOfEssence   Nov-14-10 01:43 PM   #64 
  - Yes. A lot of it does stem from race, privilege and power.  political_Dem   Nov-14-10 04:01 PM   #79 
  - Civility on this contenent was lost  ProudDad   Nov-14-10 02:41 PM   #69 
  - It's not a black thing. They hated Hillary. Then candidate Obama benefited from it at the time.  Metric System   Nov-14-10 03:50 AM   #57 
  - That is how it happened. I was here too.  jesus_of_suburbia   Nov-14-10 03:58 PM   #76 
     - Obama and Hillary are BOTH centrists, but Hillary is slightly to the right of Obama.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-14-10 04:19 PM   #83 
        - Good post.  bigwillq   Nov-14-10 07:47 PM   #91 
  - Good showing here...  zenprole   Nov-14-10 05:35 AM   #59 
  - Bogus claim - people who use the word "hate" are lamely trying to deflect...  polichick   Nov-14-10 08:35 AM   #60 
  - Dont know, but I dont understand either why you hate anybody who disagrees with Obama on anything.  Mass   Nov-14-10 08:39 AM   #61 
  - Flame bait...  ProudDad   Nov-14-10 02:36 PM   #67 
  - You seem mad about something.  sally cat   Nov-14-10 03:22 PM   #71 
  - The other day, Mike Papantonio suggested Hillary. I don't get it.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-14-10 03:57 PM   #75 
  - That has been baffling me as well  quakerboy   Nov-15-10 02:26 AM   #98 
  - They don't. They oppose his "post partisan" neoliberal policies.  LWolf   Nov-14-10 04:43 PM   #84 
  - You so funny.  Jakes Progress   Nov-14-10 05:47 PM   #88 
  - It took me a long time to realize this, but I think I know.  LoZoccolo   Nov-14-10 10:57 PM   #96 
  - Angee, you need to bookmark this thread  Number23   Nov-15-10 04:10 AM   #101 
  - "Hell, maybe it's a black thing"  niceypoo   Nov-15-10 06:17 PM   #105 
     - Is your name "angee?" No? Then why are you responding to me?  Number23   Nov-15-10 06:46 PM   #106 
        - Hey Numbers 23  angee_is_mad   Nov-15-10 07:05 PM   #108 
  - Have you stopped beating your wife yet? n/t  ljm2002   Nov-15-10 07:00 PM   #107 
  - I don't hate Obama. I voted for him, but I didn't support him during the primaries.  krabigirl   Nov-16-10 01:13 AM   #111 
  - What, the net roots are unhappy with Obama?  Beacool   Nov-16-10 02:42 AM   #112 
  - I think there are very few who "hate" him though there are many who are disappointed  seaglass   Nov-16-10 06:46 AM   #113 
  - I don't think anyone "hates" the POTUS.  Vinca   Nov-16-10 07:01 AM   #114 
  - "Hate"? "it's a black thing"? Epic Fail and a big unrec. nt  NorthCarolina   Nov-16-10 07:24 AM   #115 

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