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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 12:42 AM
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24. No, but unlike you I understand it
Something isn't progressive just because you say it is. The word actually means something. When you figure out what it means, you'll have a better perspective on why the Democrats are failing so badly.
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  -What frustrates me so much about some of us, WE WANT TO BE DISAPPOINTED IN OBAMA wndycty  Nov-11-10 12:03 AM   #0 
  - actually, we need this White House to "toughen up." nt  villager   Nov-11-10 12:04 AM   #1 
  - No actually we need to quit micromanaging every comment, every thought, every interview. . .  wndycty   Nov-11-10 12:07 AM   #2 
     - ...or perhaps quit micromanaging the very real anger people feel at being betrayed  villager   Nov-11-10 12:09 AM   #3 
     - The people feel betrayed because they are eager to be disappointed. . .  wndycty   Nov-11-10 12:10 AM   #4 
     - Yes, O Wise One -- keep explaining to the people what it is they really feel...  villager   Nov-11-10 12:12 AM   #5 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 12:13 AM   #7 
     - Make sure to save some hectoring for 2012  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:20 AM   #13 
        - I'm already convinced there are significant number of progressives that we will not get. . .  wndycty   Nov-11-10 12:22 AM   #15 
           - Because the progressives are the ones who abandoned the Democrats this election?  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:30 AM   #19 
           - you do not own the term progressive  dave29   Nov-11-10 12:40 AM   #23 
              - No, but unlike you I understand it  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:42 AM   #24 
                 - Oh please enlighten me then  dave29   Nov-11-10 12:45 AM   #26 
                    - Enlightenment is something you'll have to find for yourself.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:52 AM   #31 
                       - sure,  dave29   Nov-11-10 12:55 AM   #35 
           - I think we're all waiting for the next man-god.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 12:38 AM   #21 
     - There are people trying to find common ground with Palin  ProSense   Nov-11-10 12:13 AM   #8 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-11-10 12:21 AM   #14 
     - You'll make sure to let all the independents and young voters know, won't you?  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:26 AM   #17 
     - You are projecting your own negativity onto the independents and young voters  treestar   Nov-11-10 08:38 AM   #137 
        - No, I'm "projecting" actual poll result from an actual election  jgraz   Nov-11-10 09:28 AM   #149 
     - lolz. at least, DU never fails to dissappoint in the comic relief department.  inna   Nov-11-10 02:30 AM   #107 
     - Do you sterotype often? Your post is filled with ........  Exilednight   Nov-11-10 08:41 AM   #139 
     - The problem is some people rather be angry  JamesA1102   Nov-11-10 08:34 AM   #133 
     - Well said nt  JamesA1102   Nov-11-10 08:34 AM   #132 
  - When our president was elected, I really had tears in my eyes - I was  old mark   Nov-11-10 12:12 AM   #6 
  - Wasted opportunities?  wndycty   Nov-11-10 12:15 AM   #10 
  - In case you haven't been paying attention, we just got our asses kicked.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:39 AM   #22 
  - Actually, the voters are being blamed for NOT noticing.  Lord Magus   Nov-11-10 01:15 AM   #61 
  - and as much as they desperately try to convince you otherwise  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:18 AM   #65 
  - What people don't like is  Life Long Dem   Nov-11-10 01:17 AM   #64 
     - And this helps us win in 2012... how?  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:23 AM   #69 
        - there is no us  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:29 AM   #77 
           - Wait... we just lost the House and you want to blame the voters  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:32 AM   #80 
              - I always know when I've gotten under my wife's skin  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:40 AM   #86 
                 - So how many years has she said nothing but the word "sweetheart"?  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:43 AM   #89 
                    - I just asked her  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:48 AM   #95 
  - WOW  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 12:44 AM   #25 
  - Tip your waitresses, try the veal.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:48 AM   #28 
  - Yes, wasted opportunities.  cornermouse   Nov-11-10 05:10 AM   #117 
  - Wow, you are quick to disgust  dave29   Nov-11-10 12:17 AM   #11 
     - More like eager to disgust, there is a segment of progressives who celebrate . . .  wndycty   Nov-11-10 12:18 AM   #12 
        - No, we'd like a President who can succeed..  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 12:49 AM   #29 
           - Yeah, if only Obama hadn't sat on his hands this whole time  dave29   Nov-11-10 12:54 AM   #34 
              - Sitting on his hands wasn't the problem.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 12:59 AM   #40 
                 - Ok then.  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:01 AM   #43 
  - I'm glad DU isn't the President.  tridim   Nov-11-10 12:13 AM   #9 
  - He can't even decide if he wants to eat that sandwich from the left or right side.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 12:51 AM   #30 
     - I think he appointed a commission for that.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:53 AM   #32 
        - oh, snap!  dave29   Nov-11-10 12:59 AM   #41 
           - At this point, if I don't laugh I'll cry.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:07 AM   #47 
              - you seem very emotional  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:09 AM   #51 
  - Not only have I had a bellyful of Obama, I've had a bellyful of those who still stooge for him.  Jim Sagle   Nov-11-10 12:23 AM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 12:35 AM   #20 
  - Riiiight. So why am I getting my butt kicked student teaching again?  Jennicut   Nov-11-10 12:56 AM   #37 
  - Who would pay for such shoddy work? n/t  QC   Nov-11-10 01:11 AM   #55 
  - Too fucking bad!  FrenchieCat   Nov-11-10 12:56 AM   #38 
  - Even on DU, there are WAY more of us than there are of you.  Jim Sagle   Nov-11-10 01:05 AM   #45 
  - Divisive, much  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:06 AM   #46 
     - The coalition of the wide awake.  Jim Sagle   Nov-11-10 01:38 AM   #84 
        - does that include Palau?  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:44 AM   #90 
           - As is Obama. w would've endorsed him if only he'd been asked.  Jim Sagle   Nov-11-10 02:17 AM   #103 
              - One of the many differences  dave29   Nov-11-10 02:22 AM   #105 
              - One of the many cultural differences, yes. Policy differences, not so much.  Jim Sagle   Nov-11-10 02:36 AM   #108 
                 - One trait I admire:  dave29   Nov-11-10 02:43 AM   #110 
                    - So when did Obama end Bush's spying on Americans,  cornermouse   Nov-11-10 05:54 AM   #119 
                       - By being honest with myself about it  dave29   Nov-11-10 07:41 AM   #126 
                          - Upthread you asked me to define "progressive" for you  jgraz   Nov-11-10 09:14 AM   #145 
                             - good morning to you too.  dave29   Nov-11-10 09:24 AM   #148 
                                - Sorry, I had to go find a bigger irony knife.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 09:45 AM   #151 
                                   - I was describing "a" reaction  dave29   Nov-11-10 09:53 AM   #154 
                                      - OK, here's a simple definition of a progressive  jgraz   Nov-11-10 10:23 AM   #164 
                                         - we're not talking about me any more  dave29   Nov-11-10 10:26 AM   #165 
                                            - I defined it clearly, you just don't like the answer.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 10:30 AM   #166 
                                            - Seriously,  dave29   Nov-11-10 10:32 AM   #167 
              - That ones be debunked already.  Swede   Nov-11-10 09:49 AM   #152 
  - "Our" lockstep?  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:11 AM   #54 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 01:12 AM   #57 
     - Are you going to be at the Improv too?  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:28 AM   #75 
  - You first dear.  pecwae   Nov-11-10 08:02 AM   #127 
  - Call me, one who exercises legitimate concerns over Obama, a lock-stepping, like ...................  Exilednight   Nov-11-10 09:01 AM   #142 
  - ha ha ha ha  bigwillq   Nov-11-10 10:59 AM   #169 
  - +1,000,000  muffin1   Nov-11-10 08:38 AM   #138 
  - K&R...nt  SidDithers   Nov-11-10 12:29 AM   #18 
  - I'm realizing now, after 10 years of intense involvement in politics  FrenchieCat   Nov-11-10 12:48 AM   #27 
  - How intense has your involvement been?  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 12:57 AM   #39 
     - As intense as yours......at the very least.....  FrenchieCat   Nov-11-10 01:08 AM   #48 
        - An additional 32 million by 2019??  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:10 AM   #52 
        - So why don't you work at changing things for even the better  FrenchieCat   Nov-11-10 01:16 AM   #62 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 01:21 AM   #68 
              - no, actually you are typing into the wind  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:25 AM   #73 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 01:27 AM   #74 
                    - I was working with the time I had to get Bill White  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:37 AM   #83 
        - In case I didn't notice, it WILL go down?  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:14 AM   #59 
        - Do you really hope it does?  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:19 AM   #66 
           - Duh! No, I was just pointing out the fact, that if it happens in the future,  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:32 AM   # 
        - Of course it will go down. It's mandated, after all. n/t  dgibby   Nov-11-10 07:28 AM   #123 
  - Some of us just want to keep our social security, our medicare, have a fair system where everyone  jillan   Nov-11-10 12:53 AM   #33 
  - Whiner.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 12:55 AM   #36 
  - No thanks, I prefer catfood casserole.  jillan   Nov-11-10 01:03 AM   #44 
     - Which do you prefer? 9 lives or Tasty Vittles?  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:08 AM   #50 
        - You know, I hear that with a little hot sauce, it's really not so bad. n/t  QC   Nov-11-10 01:13 AM   #58 
           - Well, we're all gonna have a chance to see if you're right  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:34 AM   #82 
           - I grow some splendid habanero's and jalapeno's in the back yard.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:45 AM   #92 
           - Try a little Old Bay seasoning and some tarter sauce on the fish. Nom, nom, nom!  dgibby   Nov-11-10 07:31 AM   #124 
  - Why do you hate America?  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:00 AM   #42 
  - I think that is a fair question......  FrenchieCat   Nov-11-10 01:10 AM   #53 
  - It's too bad all of those things are gone now  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:08 AM   #49 
     - I don't think many really give a fuck.  FrenchieCat   Nov-11-10 01:11 AM   #56 
     - Lemme tell you something about misery.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:24 AM   #71 
     - That's not even close to misery,  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:51 AM   #98 
        - No it's not.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 02:06 AM   #100 
           - With all due respect  dave29   Nov-11-10 02:10 AM   #102 
              - See resume above.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 02:17 AM   #104 
                 - excellent.  dave29   Nov-11-10 02:27 AM   #106 
                    - Then, let's be nice.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 02:55 AM   #112 
     - I'm glad someone here still subscribes to Reader's Digest!  Hardrada   Nov-11-10 01:25 AM   #72 
     - He's only had 18 months!!111!!!!!  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:15 AM   #60 
        - Time to do what  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:16 AM   #63 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 01:19 AM   #67 
        - Sorry, was that the day Rick Warren was praying for us?  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:24 AM   #70 
        - So it's true? n/t  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:28 AM   #76 
        - Yes, it's true. Obama actually asked that homophobe to pray at the inauguration.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:29 AM   #78 
           - Was that the day you gave up on Obama's Presidency? n/t  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:32 AM   #79 
           - No, but I think that was the day he did.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:33 AM   #81 
              - It's OK you are amongst friends  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:38 AM   #85 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 01:42 AM   #87 
                 - maybe we can talk through sarcasm together  dave29   Nov-11-10 01:46 AM   #93 
              - Wishful thinking again? n/t  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:47 AM   #94 
           - You know, being a straight guy, I didn't really understand.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:42 AM   #88 
              - It's not about straight vs gay  jgraz   Nov-11-10 01:44 AM   #91 
                 - Right.  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:51 AM   #96 
                 - That's what I understood.  Dr.Phool   Nov-11-10 01:51 AM   #97 
        - + everything on earth  muffin1   Nov-11-10 09:10 AM   #143 
           - I haven't seen ANY "compromise" since Day One.  bvar22   Nov-11-10 11:09 AM   #171 
        - If criticism = hate, then what does opposition to equal rights = ?  Bluenorthwest   Nov-11-10 08:35 AM   #134 
        - I thought it was 3D chess. n/t  Exilednight   Nov-11-10 09:52 AM   #153 
  - K&R me too, wndycty. thank you for posting this. nt  nofurylike   Nov-11-10 02:04 AM   #99 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 02:09 AM   #101 
     - self-delete  nofurylike   Nov-11-10 02:39 AM   #109 
  - Nope not at all  CreekDog   Nov-11-10 02:51 AM   #111 
  - K and R. Thank you for saying what needs to be said.  political_Dem   Nov-11-10 03:17 AM   #113 
  - The President is a "servant". He is the servant of the people and he is our  saracat   Nov-11-10 09:44 AM   #150 
     - really not a good idea to call the first African American President a "servant"  dave29   Nov-11-10 10:54 AM   #168 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 04:03 AM   #114 
  - I was so elated to be so disappointed when he sent 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan.  rug   Nov-11-10 04:46 AM   #115 
  - Afghanistan, tax cuts for the wealthy, DADT, Guantanamo ....  Onlooker   Nov-11-10 04:48 AM   #116 
  - uh right.. i drank like 100 gallons of koolaid myself  meow mix   Nov-11-10 05:20 AM   #118 
  - Because Obama is sooo much more important than the "people" or the issues?  saracat   Nov-11-10 06:25 AM   #120 
  - No political leader is as important as the welfare of the nation as a whole  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-11-10 08:30 AM   #130 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 08:42 AM   #140 
     - But the drama of the endless victimization of the President seems acceptable to some.  saracat   Nov-11-10 09:11 AM   #144 
  - Yeah, that's what it's all about.  donco6   Nov-11-10 06:38 AM   #121 
  - yeah that's it. In some massive passive aggressive telepathic woo-woo event  Warren Stupidity   Nov-11-10 07:23 AM   #122 
  - Unrec for divisive flamebait,  dgibby   Nov-11-10 07:40 AM   #125 
  - Why do you want to be disappointed in Pres. Obama?  pecwae   Nov-11-10 08:07 AM   #128 
  - I don't want to be nor am I disappointed in Obama, I used "we" because I didn't want to. . .  wndycty   Nov-11-10 08:21 AM   #129 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 10:00 AM   #159 
  - So true.  JamesA1102   Nov-11-10 08:33 AM   #131 
  - Rec'd  treestar   Nov-11-10 08:36 AM   #135 
  - Join the club.  GoCubsGo   Nov-11-10 08:36 AM   #136 
  - Wants and expectations are two different things.  Umbral   Nov-11-10 08:47 AM   #141 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 09:16 AM   #146 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-11-10 10:03 AM   #161 
  - This is a political forum  hollowdweller   Nov-11-10 09:20 AM   #147 
  - don't you love posts castigating people for engaging in democracy and debate? nt  mix   Nov-11-10 10:03 AM   #162 
     - BWAHAHAHA  dave29   Nov-11-10 11:17 AM   #172 
  - Obama folded like a cheap lawn chair. Move on. nt  mix   Nov-11-10 09:55 AM   #155 
  - Now that is just unfair.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 09:57 AM   #156 
     - you got me there  mix   Nov-11-10 09:58 AM   #157 
     - No cup holder option?  Exilednight   Nov-11-10 09:59 AM   #158 
        - That might inhibit folding velocity.  jgraz   Nov-11-10 10:00 AM   #160 
  - Exactly!  savalez   Nov-11-10 10:21 AM   #163 
  - You realize it is not specific to Obama, DU loves trusting anything to attack a Dem they dont like,  Mass   Nov-11-10 11:07 AM   #170 
  - Locking  Tindalos   Nov-11-10 11:23 AM   #173 
 

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