alcibiades_mystery
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Wed Nov-03-10 09:45 PM
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| 50. Is that your method for passing bills w/o GOP votes |
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I'm glad you've planned this out so carefully.
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| -It Begins-- Reid: 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal depends on GOP cooperation |
playstation |
Nov-03-10 05:50 PM |
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gee-what a surprise |
davidinalameda |
Nov-03-10 05:52 PM |
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Yay, for Bipartisanship! |
Ian David |
Nov-03-10 05:52 PM |
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Well doesn't it? |
emulatorloo |
Nov-03-10 05:53 PM |
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Does he still need 60? |
KansDem |
Nov-03-10 05:54 PM |
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60 for cloture, then a simple majority to pass. |
emulatorloo |
Nov-03-10 05:58 PM |
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Most likely, |
ProSense |
Nov-03-10 05:59 PM |
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No...the Senate rules magically disappeared in the last two weeks |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-03-10 06:50 PM |
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Actually, I was being somewhat sarcastic... |
KansDem |
Nov-03-10 07:04 PM |
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Reconciliation only works on things related to the budget. |
TheWraith |
Nov-03-10 08:47 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification! |
KansDem |
Nov-04-10 09:31 AM |
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I can't say for sure, but probably not. |
TheWraith |
Nov-04-10 12:17 PM |
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The Vietnam War was not defunded before the troops were withdrawn |
karynnj |
Nov-04-10 12:45 PM |
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I was thinking along the lines of defunding whatever monies are necessary |
KansDem |
Nov-04-10 01:47 PM |
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Yes, you need 60 votes to do almost everything in the senate |
ShadowLiberal |
Nov-03-10 07:27 PM |
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You'd think political wonks would know this? |
HughMoran |
Nov-03-10 07:57 PM |
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They had their chance, didn't they? |
cigsandcoffee |
Nov-03-10 05:55 PM |
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House hearings on baseball steroid use |
Kolesar |
Nov-03-10 05:57 PM |
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the house passed the repeal. reid needs republican votes for cloture. |
emulatorloo |
Nov-03-10 05:58 PM |
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Acknowledged! eom |
Kolesar |
Nov-04-10 01:19 PM |
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We never actually had a supermajority. |
TheWraith |
Nov-03-10 05:58 PM |
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actually on that bill Lieberman is a force for good |
dsc |
Nov-03-10 06:41 PM |
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Yeah, but with 4-5 "leaners" on "our side," any issue was a craps shoot. |
TheWraith |
Nov-03-10 08:46 PM |
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"could possibly be squeezed into" |
Prism |
Nov-03-10 05:55 PM |
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See jenmito's post right below yours |
emulatorloo |
Nov-03-10 06:01 PM |
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It is highly, highly contingent |
Prism |
Nov-03-10 06:21 PM |
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It DOES! Dems. only have 59 in the lame duck, but there are Repubs. that are |
jenmito |
Nov-03-10 05:56 PM |
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You can bet your ass that the phonelines to Maine are humming right now. nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-03-10 05:59 PM |
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Only 58 I think. I believe Kirk replaces Burrus immediately. |
bornskeptic |
Nov-03-10 06:04 PM |
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Yeah if anybody is represented by Collins and Snowe, please CALL THEM. |
emulatorloo |
Nov-03-10 06:14 PM |
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Why on Earth would they? (NT) |
Tesha |
Nov-03-10 06:15 PM |
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Snowe, Collins, and a couple others said they'd vote to repeal it after the |
jenmito |
Nov-03-10 06:24 PM |
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Scott Brown who said he was waiting for the report coul be a possibility too |
karynnj |
Nov-04-10 12:39 PM |
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Only 58 - Kirk will immediately replace Burris because it was a special election |
karynnj |
Nov-04-10 12:38 PM |
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True and true... |
jenmito |
Nov-04-10 01:30 PM |
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I'm stunned! |
QC |
Nov-03-10 06:16 PM |
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And you shouldn't be stunned if you know basic math. n/t |
jenmito |
Nov-03-10 06:28 PM |
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And you would know what was going on here if you had ever watched Charlie Brown. |
QC |
Nov-03-10 06:37 PM |
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This has been the plan for several months. It WILL be repealed before the next Congress starts. n/t |
jenmito |
Nov-03-10 06:41 PM |
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I don't think the Dems wanted to repeal it anyway. It's all lip service. That's my conclusion. |
Metric System |
Nov-03-10 06:17 PM |
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They DO want to and WILL repeal it in the lame duck session with the help of |
jenmito |
Nov-03-10 06:26 PM |
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I think many of the anti-equality Democrats are thirlled with |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-03-10 06:35 PM |
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It will be repealed in the lame duck session! Obama said as much today. |
jenmito |
Nov-03-10 06:38 PM |
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Do you have suggestions on how to pass a bill into law without that right now |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-03-10 06:33 PM |
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There will be no cooperation from the republicans |
niceypoo |
Nov-03-10 06:45 PM |
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Then the bill won't get passed |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-03-10 06:48 PM |
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The problem with Reid's statement is its context, not its content. |
Unvanguard |
Nov-03-10 07:25 PM |
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The GOP wont cooperate with Obama |
niceypoo |
Nov-03-10 07:57 PM |
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Who's saying they will |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-03-10 08:22 PM |
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Obama needs to play hardball with the republicans |
niceypoo |
Nov-03-10 08:39 PM |
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Is that your method for passing bills w/o GOP votes |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-03-10 09:45 PM |
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What is the alternative to hardball? |
niceypoo |
Nov-03-10 11:57 PM |
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So, you're saying that the Congress needs Republican votes to pass bills |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-04-10 01:13 AM |
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You obviously cannot see the forest for the trees |
niceypoo |
Nov-04-10 01:16 AM |
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So you say |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-04-10 01:22 AM |
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It is down to the votes unfortunately |
zulchzulu |
Nov-03-10 06:51 PM |
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It did not need the GOP cooperation before yesterday and nothing was done |
thewiseguy |
Nov-03-10 06:58 PM |
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Yes it did! We did NOT have 60 Dems. in favor of repealing DADT. n/t |
jenmito |
Nov-04-10 01:25 PM |
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wow. |
Kltpzyxm |
Nov-03-10 07:07 PM |
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Get this coward out of "leadership", for Dad's sake!! |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Nov-03-10 07:30 PM |
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I won't be holding my breath. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-03-10 07:55 PM |
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Didn't they actually HAVE 60 votes for a little while? |
hughee99 |
Nov-03-10 08:10 PM |
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Yeah - except for a gap in that time after Tedy died before MA |
karynnj |
Nov-04-10 12:47 PM |
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For some of that time, |
hughee99 |
Nov-04-10 01:36 PM |
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True, I stated it completley incorrectly |
karynnj |
Nov-04-10 02:18 PM |
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Not 60 votes in favor of repealing DADT. n/t |
jenmito |
Nov-04-10 01:01 PM |
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And this is the big issue. |
hughee99 |
Nov-04-10 01:30 PM |
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Right. But the "review" some of those "no" votes were waiting for will be out Dec. 1st, |
jenmito |
Nov-04-10 01:40 PM |
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It would have needed their cooperation anyway. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-03-10 08:35 PM |
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if this |
besdayz |
Nov-03-10 08:53 PM |
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It's the base that says they were not fired up and didn't contribute, etc. |
treestar |
Nov-03-10 09:53 PM |
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+1 |
firedupdem |
Nov-03-10 09:59 PM |
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we knew those consequences |
mitchtv |
Nov-03-10 11:04 PM |
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Except that's total crap |
jgraz |
Nov-04-10 12:15 AM |
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Yup. Adam Green from the PCCC was all over TV saying progressives didn't go out and vote |
jenmito |
Nov-04-10 01:35 PM |
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If anything, he is predictable. |
Safetykitten |
Nov-04-10 12:17 AM |
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Great news! |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-04-10 09:43 AM |
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So how do you suggest it gets passed? |
WI_DEM |
Nov-04-10 01:22 PM |
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