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Thu Oct-28-10 10:23 PM
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| -Did Obama blatantly lie on Jon Stewart last night? (Attack on Social Security) |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 09:51 PM |
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wow |
qazplm |
Oct-28-10 09:58 PM |
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He appointed a commission designed to recommend that it be slashed, |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 10:01 PM |
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Right, because these claims have always been right in the past. |
TheWraith |
Oct-28-10 10:13 PM |
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So: why were Simpson and Bowles picked to lead the commission? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 10:20 PM |
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A seat belt is required reading this OP. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-28-10 10:15 PM |
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.... |
SeattleGirl |
Oct-28-10 10:28 PM |
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I bet you still think he's going to deliver on the Public Option, too |
jgraz |
Oct-29-10 12:14 AM |
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Bullshit. |
TheWraith |
Oct-28-10 10:00 PM |
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You're calling me a Republican shill? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 10:03 PM |
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I'm saying that you're parroting a Republican attack on Obama. |
TheWraith |
Oct-28-10 10:09 PM |
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No, and no. |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 10:17 PM |
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What's your point? |
dennis4868 |
Oct-28-10 10:01 PM |
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Let's impeach him NOW!!!! This is HUGH!!!! nt. |
jezebel |
Oct-28-10 10:02 PM |
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Was this our model? |
xloadiex |
Oct-28-10 10:10 PM |
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That would still be wrong, even if that's what he meant |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 10:14 PM |
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This has been in the works and he will do it - |
TBF |
Oct-28-10 10:21 PM |
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ty |
emilyg |
Oct-29-10 12:44 AM |
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Universal savings accounts. |
cornermouse |
Oct-29-10 07:02 AM |
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BULLSHIT!! n/t |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Oct-28-10 10:23 PM |
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the oft-cited precursor of Social Security was the Civil War Pension program |
onenote |
Oct-28-10 10:30 PM |
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oft-cited? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 10:33 PM |
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Here. Be sure not to skip the last one. |
onenote |
Oct-28-10 11:14 PM |
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Good finds. Well done. |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 11:46 PM |
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Actually, yes. |
boppers |
Oct-29-10 02:05 AM |
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An example of a right wing talking point |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Oct-28-10 10:39 PM |
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wanna bet 10 dollars? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 10:41 PM |
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And you know this how? n/t |
SeattleGirl |
Oct-28-10 10:43 PM |
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Unlike public opt.,wire taps, oil drilling, forclosure moratoreum, and torture - OFA and DLC really |
scentopine |
Oct-28-10 10:52 PM |
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For some reason, nobody ever takes me up on these bets |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 11:03 PM |
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The initial passing of Social Security was for widows and orphans |
zulchzulu |
Oct-28-10 10:45 PM |
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Link please |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 10:56 PM |
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Social Security was passed as an "old age" retirement program in 1935 |
dflprincess |
Oct-28-10 11:18 PM |
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Why focus on the point of the statement? That's not what's going on here |
mikekohr |
Oct-29-10 12:07 AM |
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I Respectfully Call Bullshit |
mikekohr |
Oct-28-10 11:10 PM |
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Why? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 11:18 PM |
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I live in the country and I recognise bullshit when I see it |
mikekohr |
Oct-28-10 11:37 PM |
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So you just kind of know it in your gut? nt |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 11:39 PM |
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And every bit as logically reasoned as your post nt |
mikekohr |
Oct-29-10 12:01 AM |
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K&R |
Jakes Progress |
Oct-28-10 11:14 PM |
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From your second link: |
ProSense |
Oct-28-10 11:22 PM |
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"as far as anything I've read" |
boppers |
Oct-28-10 11:23 PM |
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Neither of your references refers to Social Security. |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 11:38 PM |
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When, in 50 years, US healthcare has another name than "Affordable Care Act"... |
boppers |
Oct-29-10 12:12 AM |
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I wonder how many times you have to be right about things... |
Milo_Bloom |
Oct-28-10 11:27 PM |
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Hmmmm? |
ProSense |
Oct-28-10 11:29 PM |
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The reality is that actual progress doesn't happen. |
Milo_Bloom |
Oct-29-10 01:40 AM |
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Thanks for the support |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-28-10 11:42 PM |
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Maybe you should get some information before agreeing off the cuff with someone who doesn't know. nt |
vaberella |
Oct-29-10 01:56 AM |
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Look more like a poor choice of analogy than any dishonesty on Obama's part |
depakid |
Oct-29-10 12:43 AM |
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Why blame Obama for planning to slash social security when |
golfguru |
Oct-29-10 12:58 AM |
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A simple plan: |
boppers |
Oct-29-10 01:39 AM |
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There are not enough million$ earners to pay for all the |
golfguru |
Oct-29-10 02:49 AM |
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SSTF |
boppers |
Oct-29-10 05:22 AM |
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k&(invisible)r |
inna |
Oct-29-10 01:43 AM |
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I thought the Widows and Orphans act was the percursor to SS-- |
vaberella |
Oct-29-10 01:59 AM |
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As a wikipedia editor of 7 years, 9 months, and 5 days: |
boppers |
Oct-29-10 02:12 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-29-10 04:35 AM |
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I'm convinced he's going to cut social security too. |
cornermouse |
Oct-29-10 05:44 AM |
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Congress would have to cut Social Security. |
great white snark |
Oct-29-10 06:31 AM |
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Yes, I do. |
cornermouse |
Oct-29-10 07:00 AM |
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You are right - see my post #14 - he's been talking about it |
TBF |
Oct-29-10 06:37 AM |
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Did you start yet another anti-Obama BS thread? |
catgirl |
Oct-29-10 06:48 AM |
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The OP has hated Obama from the beginning. nt |
elizm |
Oct-29-10 06:48 AM |
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Not true. Archives indicate the OP was a supporter early on... |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-29-10 06:51 AM |
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locking |
mopinko |
Oct-29-10 07:40 AM |
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