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Scalia, Thomas have attended Koch bros. 'very private', 'secretive' meetings
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Yes, Virginia, There Is a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Today's New York Times has an interesting story about a periodic meeting conservative uber-donor David Koch organizes, where he and other masters of the universe plan how to advance the cause of "freedom," i.e. remove themselves from the burden of paying taxes and obeying regulations on things like the environment and worker safety:


Getting this kind of "rare peek" is always interesting, but there isn't anything particularly sinister about the fact that these people get together to plot strategy. People on the left do it too; for instance, there's a group called the Democracy Alliance, which is a collection of progressive donors. They too occasionally gather in one place, to determine how to best spend their money to advance the causes they believe in. George Soros, the right's bete noir, is even one of the Alliance's members.

But imagine if it were discovered that among the participants at the Democracy Alliance meetings were Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer -- that two sitting Supreme Court justices were getting together with top liberal donors to plot political strategy. To say there would be outrage would be an understatement. Forget about all the fulminating about "activist judges" on Fox News and conservative talk radio that would ensue. Republicans would almost certainly propose impeaching the two justices, arguing, with some justification, that it is grossly improper for members of the Supreme Court to be participating in such plainly political activities.

Keep that in mind as you read this, from lower down in the Times article:

To encourage new participants, Mr. Koch offers to waive the $1,500 registration fee. And he notes that previous guests have included Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court, Gov. Haley Barbour and Gov. Bobby Jindal, Senators Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn, and Representatives Mike Pence, Tom Price and Paul D. Ryan.

Yes, that's right: Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas have attended strategy meetings with the billionaires who fund pretty much every major conservative interest group in the country. I wonder what they talked about?

-- Paul Waldman
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  -Scalia, Thomas have attended Koch bros. 'very private', 'secretive' meetings babylonsister  Oct-20-10 10:18 AM   #0 
  - my outrage grows daily  bluerum   Oct-20-10 10:21 AM   #1 
  - indeed  The Hitman   Oct-20-10 07:47 PM   #56 
  - Corporate scum  Rosa Luxemburg   Oct-20-10 09:23 PM   #63 
  - Sotamayor meets with Soros ...  Cosmocat   Oct-21-10 05:58 AM   #77 
     - Progressives are not represented on the SC  molly77   Oct-21-10 08:36 AM   #83 
     - it would not be applauded, or defended  fascisthunter   Oct-21-10 09:37 AM   #87 
        - They would have the judge hung by their toes ...  Cosmocat   Oct-21-10 03:36 PM   #93 
  - Geez...  Spazito   Oct-20-10 10:27 AM   #2 
  - Same thoughts....same reaction.  Hepburn   Oct-20-10 10:42 AM   #5 
     - You know something just as disgusting is...  PinkFloyd   Oct-20-10 09:01 PM   #59 
        - Exactly.  Enthusiast   Oct-21-10 04:02 AM   #72 
           - Damn skippy and you notice something else about the teabaggers...  PinkFloyd   Oct-22-10 02:53 PM   #94 
  - This is incredible, and yet we will not  disillusioned73   Oct-20-10 10:31 AM   #3 
  - This is so wrong on so many levels.  young but wise   Oct-20-10 10:34 AM   #4 
  - Sure would be nice to impeach Tony  struggle4progress   Oct-20-10 10:43 AM   #6 
  - Can someone explain to me why this is not an impeachable offense?  crazylikafox   Oct-20-10 01:16 PM   #25 
  - Because investigating corruption would make DEMS look "far left."  Dr Fate   Oct-20-10 04:07 PM   #30 
     - No, because impeachment would go nowhere  Chulanowa   Oct-21-10 05:12 AM   #76 
  - Indeed.  mzmolly   Oct-20-10 09:14 PM   #60 
  - I blame the DOJ and Holder because he does nothing  Bitwit1234   Oct-20-10 10:53 AM   #7 
  - This appeared in the NYT TODAY. nt  babylonsister   Oct-20-10 10:56 AM   #9 
  - And you think it was news to the insiders in Washington? n/t  dflprincess   Oct-20-10 09:20 PM   #62 
  - He may not be able to avoid doing something now. nt  polichick   Oct-20-10 12:04 PM   #19 
  - He is not the only Obama appointee that is AWOL  vssmith   Oct-20-10 02:01 PM   #26 
  - I concur  bc3000   Oct-20-10 05:03 PM   #42 
  - Too busy upholding DADT and getting ready to fight CA's Prop 19?  Retrograde   Oct-20-10 05:26 PM   #44 
  - Gee, and who voted to strike down campaign finance reform as violating corporate free speech?  progressoid   Oct-20-10 10:55 AM   #8 
  - The men and women in black are...deciding their second national election in just the first decade...  babylonsister   Oct-20-10 10:59 AM   #10 
  - We need another deep throat and someone in the M$M with the guts to tell the truth.  progressoid   Oct-20-10 11:05 AM   #11 
     - I imagine this will show up on Maddow and Lawrence's show soon. Not sure if either will be enough  Parker CA   Oct-20-10 11:58 AM   #17 
     - Corruption at the very top - thank goodness for Rachel & Lawrence...  polichick   Oct-20-10 12:07 PM   #20 
        - Definitely thank goodness for the two of them. Hoping to see this in the next few days, as it may  Parker CA   Oct-20-10 12:09 PM   #21 
           - I'll be sure to watch this week! nt  polichick   Oct-20-10 12:22 PM   #22 
     - Who would listen?  Enthusiast   Oct-21-10 04:13 AM   #73 
  - Exactly. They have sure gotten their money's worth from Roberts, Alito, Scalia & Thomas in Citizens  Pirate Smile   Oct-20-10 04:38 PM   #36 
  - If God cared, he would remove those two from office a long time ago. nt  thereismore   Oct-20-10 11:09 AM   #12 
  - They do this because Democrats are such cowards  Democat   Oct-20-10 11:09 AM   #13 
  - The best justice money can buy  Blue Owl   Oct-20-10 11:17 AM   #14 
  - Face Time with the Bosses  Yavin4   Oct-20-10 11:45 AM   #15 
  - I have to say it's no shock to find out Scalia and Thomas are Teabagging Nutjobs.  beac   Oct-20-10 11:56 AM   #16 
  - That's nice.  Phx_Dem   Oct-20-10 12:01 PM   #18 
  - K&R  Vinnie From Indy   Oct-20-10 12:47 PM   #23 
  - Think Progress  ProSense   Oct-20-10 01:11 PM   #24 
  - Money and Power behind the scenes to influence the Federal Bench...surely the ABA would protest.  Supersedeas   Oct-20-10 03:02 PM   #27 
  - Screwing animals and children...  femrap   Oct-20-10 03:14 PM   #28 
  - Impeach them. It can be done.  elehhhhna   Oct-20-10 03:46 PM   #29 
  - Cant be done. Too far left.  Dr Fate   Oct-20-10 04:24 PM   #33 
     - However, if Sotomayor or Kagan even got within a whiff  NewJeffCT   Oct-20-10 06:32 PM   #49 
  - so now it is acceptable for Supreme COurt Judges to Collude with Business Interests  fascisthunter   Oct-20-10 04:22 PM   #31 
  - K&R  pleah   Oct-20-10 04:24 PM   #32 
  - I'm open to impeaching them. Its apparent that their political leanings..  Historic NY   Oct-20-10 04:34 PM   #34 
  - I'm open to just having a house hold name, elected DEM simply uttering the word....  Dr Fate   Oct-20-10 04:47 PM   #38 
  - This is disturbing on so many levels.  timefortherevolution   Oct-20-10 04:36 PM   #35 
  - their extracurricular activity is grounds for impeachment in my view  BREMPRO   Oct-20-10 04:46 PM   #37 
  - Add to this, Thomas' wife's tea party activism.  Waiting For Everyman   Oct-20-10 04:50 PM   #39 
  - If the democrats truly want to stop this - they need to go after them balls out  beforeyoureyes   Oct-20-10 04:51 PM   #40 
  - You forgot to put a sarcasm icon or a rolly laughy guy in your post. n/t  Dr Fate   Oct-20-10 04:51 PM   #41 
  - K&R. nt  OnyxCollie   Oct-20-10 05:14 PM   #43 
  - recommended!  JohnWxy   Oct-20-10 05:29 PM   #45 
  - Omfg  bpositive   Oct-20-10 05:32 PM   #46 
  - These judges have been coopted. If they respected the positions  MadMaddie   Oct-20-10 05:38 PM   #47 
  - I knew that the SCOTUS verdict in Citizens United was coordinated with the right wing.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-20-10 06:05 PM   #48 
  - Secretive so the cash can change hands  Scruffy1   Oct-20-10 06:33 PM   #50 
  - well, at least i get a confirmation of what i already knew...  Blue_Tires   Oct-20-10 07:14 PM   #51 
  - I certainly would like to know what they discussed.  KansDem   Oct-20-10 07:22 PM   #52 
  - The Iraqi constitution (that the U.S. help draft) outlaws Judges from being members  harun   Oct-20-10 07:24 PM   #53 
  - Scalia went duck hunting with Dickie, while Dick's case was pending  muntrv   Oct-20-10 07:35 PM   #54 
  - +1!  KoKo   Oct-21-10 08:46 AM   #84 
  - OMG! SCOTUS justices are supposed to remain unconnected to partisan polics. n/t  Mimosa   Oct-20-10 07:38 PM   #55 
  - Impeach, indict, execute  Doctor_J   Oct-20-10 07:50 PM   #57 
  - IMPEACH THE FUCKERS !  ElsewheresDaughter   Oct-20-10 08:00 PM   #58 
  - DEFINITELY grounds for impeachment (n/t)  ProudDad   Oct-20-10 09:20 PM   #61 
  - Forget Koch events, these freakin' worth-lezz magots appointed GW Bush to become prez  ElsewheresDaughter   Oct-20-10 10:46 PM   #64 
  - Hmm  guitar man   Oct-20-10 10:47 PM   #65 
  - And nothing will happen.  Jakes Progress   Oct-20-10 10:49 PM   #66 
  - this is shameless Fascism...  sam sarrha   Oct-20-10 11:02 PM   #67 
  - K&R n.t  myrna minx   Oct-20-10 11:52 PM   #68 
  - Re Cheney/Energy Meetings: Scalia should have been hung up by his toes until the ducks  defendandprotect   Oct-20-10 11:55 PM   #69 
  - Of course there is a  Enthusiast   Oct-21-10 03:55 AM   #70 
  - K&R  Enthusiast   Oct-21-10 03:58 AM   #71 
  - I could support impeachment  tavalon   Oct-21-10 04:52 AM   #74 
  - Those Kotch suckers can't get enough of that funky stuff...  Hubert Flottz   Oct-21-10 05:04 AM   #75 
  - IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS!!!!!  TwentyFive   Oct-21-10 06:52 AM   #78 
  - Think Progress:  ProSense   Oct-21-10 07:00 AM   #79 
  - Two words: CITIZENS UNITED  Roland99   Oct-21-10 07:20 AM   #80 
  - Plotting the Coup . . . Again nt  TomClash   Oct-21-10 08:03 AM   #81 
  - Disgusting! eom  southern_belle   Oct-21-10 08:06 AM   #82 
  - Don't look now the Democrats are scattering..........  BlueJac   Oct-21-10 09:22 AM   #85 
  - Ginsburg& Breyer would be facing impeachment IF.  cyclezealot   Oct-21-10 09:30 AM   #86 
  - ps.  cyclezealot   Oct-21-10 10:08 AM   #88 
  - Just wondering  jbeing   Oct-21-10 10:20 AM   #89 
  - We are deluded to believe government will investigate itself  felix_numinous   Oct-21-10 10:21 AM   #90 
  - These guys need to be thrown off the bench  budkin   Oct-21-10 01:18 PM   #91 
  - If the atended these meetings PRIOR to their Citizens United ruling  rocktivity   Oct-21-10 01:24 PM   #92 
  - IMPEACH! IMPEACH!!!  Odin2005   Oct-22-10 03:16 PM   #95 
  - HOLY FUCK!!!  Odin2005   Oct-22-10 03:20 PM   #96 

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