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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 03:52 PM
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36. There's a LOT of ignorance about the process, some intentional, some because there's a bunch of
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  -Why doesn't Obama stand up to Republicans instead of being so weak and bipartisan? Radical Activist  Aug-17-10 02:13 PM   #0 
  - Why the left ever believes the media is beyond me but  CBR   Aug-17-10 02:16 PM   #1 
  - It keeps happening.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:23 PM   #3 
  - You've yet to show that happened.  EFerrari   Aug-17-10 02:41 PM   #13 
     - What do you believe didn't happen?  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 03:07 PM   #22 
  - funny how that works. During the Bush regime the media was attacked  Whisp   Aug-17-10 03:06 PM   #20 
     - I've noticed that too.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 03:09 PM   #24 
  - I'm convinced we aren't hearing everything...  JuniperLea   Aug-17-10 02:20 PM   #2 
  - Yes.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:24 PM   #5 
  - We need to be ever vigilent...  JuniperLea   Aug-17-10 02:33 PM   #10 
  - HALLO!  Karenina   Aug-17-10 02:28 PM   #7 
  - Yes my first would be Fox News  Rosa Luxemburg   Aug-17-10 02:53 PM   #16 
  - If the left believed the corporate media, there would be no left leaning outlets.  EFerrari   Aug-17-10 02:23 PM   #4 
  - The issue is not the speeches....  vi5   Aug-17-10 02:28 PM   #6 
  - It's not really bi-partisanship if you don't stand up for your own position.n/t  EFerrari   Aug-17-10 02:32 PM   #8 
  - GOOD point! But the problem is that he has no backing on "the Left". They're all show and no go,  patrice   Aug-17-10 03:05 PM   #19 
  - I was expecting this dodge.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 03:04 PM   #18 
     - O.K. I'd like some of those examples....  vi5   Aug-17-10 07:11 PM   #53 
        - This is another example of how progressives are being manipulated by the press.  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 08:58 PM   #86 
           - I appreciate the response.  vi5   Aug-19-10 05:32 AM   #93 
  - Interesting observation. However:  snot   Aug-17-10 02:32 PM   #9 
  - Obama did something about it. He went on Fox and told them  EFerrari   Aug-17-10 02:46 PM   #15 
     - I Agree...  Steely_Dan   Aug-18-10 11:44 PM   #91 
  - Because the margins are narrow and there's a bunch on the "Left" who, like the Right, are never  patrice   Aug-17-10 02:35 PM   #11 
  - You get it.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 03:14 PM   #26 
     - We are at one HELL of a crossroads here, so it is necessary for all of us to be honest  patrice   Aug-17-10 03:29 PM   #28 
  - Rec'd, thanks. Yes, the info is out there, it's just not being covered,  babylonsister   Aug-17-10 02:36 PM   #12 
  - But what do you think of the job  cilla4progress   Aug-18-10 10:24 AM   #71 
  - W0W!!!1 real strong meat there..  frylock   Aug-17-10 02:44 PM   #14 
  - Where did he stick it to Republicans in that statement? He used the straw man term "folks."  katandmoon   Aug-17-10 02:54 PM   #17 
  - I don't know which is funnier, the fact that you obviously don't know what "straw man" means...  phleshdef   Aug-17-10 03:07 PM   #23 
  - !  patrice   Aug-17-10 03:13 PM   #25 
  - hahaha! perfect.  Whisp   Aug-17-10 04:02 PM   #37 
  - I know exactly what straw man means. It was a form of argument Bush used a lot too.  katandmoon   Aug-17-10 04:58 PM   #44 
  - LOL "Yuh huh, I know whut it means, its that, um, thing, that um, Bush did"  phleshdef   Aug-17-10 05:01 PM   #46 
  - It sounds like YOU are the one who doesn't know what it is.  katandmoon   Aug-17-10 07:56 PM   #55 
     - I definately know what it means which is why I'm appalled at the horrendous misuse of it.  phleshdef   Aug-18-10 02:01 PM   #78 
  - Well, you did it. You won DU. The website will now shut down.  Gordan Shumway   Aug-17-10 05:31 PM   #49 
  - Actually, she used the term correctly.  Smashcut   Aug-17-10 05:42 PM   #50 
     - No, she didn't and neither are you.  phleshdef   Aug-18-10 01:59 PM   #77 
  - I think it is a useful strategy to use a more super-ordinate category, sometimes, in order to  patrice   Aug-17-10 03:24 PM   #27 
  - It also expands the category to include non-Republicans who are opposing progressive legislations...  phleshdef   Aug-17-10 03:31 PM   #29 
     - Yep. It is, in short, liberating, for those who have the courage to go there.  patrice   Aug-17-10 03:33 PM   #30 
  - in your definition what exactly is: 'sticking it to the Repuglicans?'  Whisp   Aug-17-10 03:40 PM   #31 
  - He should scream.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 03:45 PM   #34 
  - and the ones here who constantly stick it to Obama more than to the Pugs  Whisp   Aug-17-10 03:51 PM   #35 
  - There's a LOT of ignorance about the process, some intentional, some because there's a bunch of  patrice   Aug-17-10 03:52 PM   #36 
  - Good point~~~  Hekate   Aug-17-10 05:06 PM   #47 
  - Ask the OP -- that was his phrase, not mine.  katandmoon   Aug-17-10 05:00 PM   #45 
     - you seem to have an idea what 'stick it' means by that post.  Whisp   Aug-17-10 06:05 PM   #51 
        - For starters I'd get rid of Rahm, Gibbs, Gates, Patreus, issue an EO halting DADT, stop using/  katandmoon   Aug-17-10 07:55 PM   #54 
           - Same here.  kurtzapril4   Aug-17-10 08:25 PM   #57 
           - so Obama firing some of his people is really gonna get those Repugs good!  Whisp   Aug-17-10 08:26 PM   #58 
              - Check Obama's sinking poll numbers. They sure haven't risen since Gibbs trashed liberals.  katandmoon   Aug-17-10 09:14 PM   #59 
  - oh dear.  dionysus   Aug-18-10 01:31 PM   #75 
  - He has been attacking Republicans for awhile now. Some are too busy pretending to be politicians...  phleshdef   Aug-17-10 03:06 PM   #21 
  - agreed. he has not let up, he shows just how unhelpful and crooked those bastard Repugs are  Whisp   Aug-17-10 03:44 PM   #33 
  - He totally kicked their collective ass right now in Seattle  impik   Aug-17-10 03:43 PM   #32 
  - Print out the speech, snap in the air, then cry:  Dr Fate   Aug-17-10 04:21 PM   #40 
  - Let's see 1-3 trillion for the Bush wars and how much for renewables...?  grahamhgreen   Aug-17-10 04:14 PM   #38 
  - The important thing is that centrists percieve his speeches as hurting Republicans.  Dr Fate   Aug-17-10 04:20 PM   #39 
  - he was really mean to those poopyheads..  frylock   Aug-17-10 04:31 PM   #41 
  - Sorry - the cash is where the meat hits the mustard, IMHO. This is real money, real choices. nt  grahamhgreen   Aug-17-10 05:08 PM   #48 
     - You sound like a far left.  Dr Fate   Aug-18-10 10:16 AM   #68 
  - I'm glad you support Obama's call for even more spending on renewables.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 04:40 PM   #42 
     - Even more spending on renewables than spent on wars that benefit corporations?  Dr Fate   Aug-17-10 04:53 PM   #43 
        - If you want to minimize every issue other than the war  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 11:50 AM   #73 
           - I disagree with DEMS who want to spend more on wars for oil than they want to spend on renewables.  Dr Fate   Aug-18-10 02:34 PM   #81 
              - So you dismiss hundreds of billions spent on clean energy as "insincere"  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 08:24 PM   #84 
                 - Hundreds of billions?  grahamhgreen   Aug-18-10 10:45 PM   #87 
                    - What an ignorant statement.  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 11:11 PM   #89 
                       - Please enlighten me  grahamhgreen   Aug-19-10 10:36 AM   #94 
                          - A loan guarantee is not like direct spending.  Radical Activist   Aug-19-10 11:06 AM   #95 
  - K&R  BrklynLiberal   Aug-17-10 06:06 PM   #52 
  - That was an attack?  depakid   Aug-17-10 08:04 PM   #56 
  - K & R!  TomCADem   Aug-17-10 10:05 PM   #60 
  - Talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk  readmoreoften   Aug-17-10 10:07 PM   #61 
  - And he doesn't use the bully pulpit.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 10:31 PM   #64 
     - Using it and making it work are 2 different things.  Dr Fate   Aug-18-10 10:20 AM   #69 
        - I'm anti-war but I'm not a single issue voter.  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 11:44 AM   #72 
           - War= "pet issue?" LOL! The two issues are joined at the hip, unless you are a see no evil partisan,  Dr Fate   Aug-18-10 02:25 PM   #79 
              - No. I didn't write that.  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 08:13 PM   #82 
  - Wow, those republicans must be scared!  RetroLounge   Aug-17-10 10:13 PM   #62 
  - it's not SPEECHES that count! it's actions; and Obama has catered to rethugs repeatedly, through cr  amborin   Aug-17-10 10:20 PM   #63 
  - I don't think it's in him... he's very conflict-averse...  nightrain   Aug-17-10 10:34 PM   #65 
  - I ignore the infotainment "media", they are bought & paid for by those I  KakistocracyHater   Aug-18-10 03:42 AM   #66 
  - How much will the military spend on fuel under Obama's military budget...  Dr Fate   Aug-18-10 09:51 AM   #67 
  - Is this the third of fourth time you've posted this in my thread?  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 11:54 AM   #74 
     - Let 's make it a 5th, until someone can answer the question.  Dr Fate   Aug-18-10 02:31 PM   #80 
        - Since that's a completely different topic than the OP, then yes,  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 08:14 PM   #83 
  - That meme is getting so tired  Proud Liberal Dem   Aug-18-10 10:21 AM   #70 
  - I don't think people appreciate  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 08:40 PM   #85 
  - K & R!  NJmaverick   Aug-18-10 01:45 PM   #76 
  - a  besdayz   Aug-18-10 10:51 PM   #88 
  - Yes. Awesome all around. n/t  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 11:15 PM   #90 
  - Beacause going off voting history we hand the house to Republicans and they are forced to work ..  DemocraticPilgrim   Aug-19-10 12:39 AM   #92 
  - media loves perpetuating the fallacy.  Sheepshank   Aug-19-10 11:32 AM   #96 

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