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Wed Aug-18-10 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #148 |
| 149. Like I said, jerking off to the dictionary while saying absolutely nothing. |
| -Food Stamps Are Not Being Cut |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 08:41 AM |
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That doesn't change the fact |
My Good Babushka |
Aug-16-10 08:45 AM |
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They were only temporarily increased |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 08:47 AM |
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In general, Congress only exists to support the will of the Rich People |
truedelphi |
Aug-17-10 12:34 AM |
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Tell it to the pukes, who couldn't conceivably vote for anything |
babylonsister |
Aug-16-10 08:50 AM |
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Read the OP closer ... |
JoePhilly |
Aug-16-10 08:50 AM |
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Democrats need to get on TV and start shouting the truth |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-16-10 10:05 AM |
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Tsk, tsk. Raising one's voice is so... unseemly. |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 11:38 AM |
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LOL! |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-16-10 11:42 AM |
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While I kind of agree .... the reality is ... |
JoePhilly |
Aug-16-10 03:43 PM |
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But top Dems could have shot down that lie in a heartbeat... by calling it a LIE. |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 04:10 PM |
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Specific hit teams of key Dems need to go on TV, radio - actually everywhere |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-16-10 08:42 PM |
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A year ago DU said these increases were peanuts |
sandnsea |
Aug-16-10 03:59 PM |
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I forgot that. |
JoePhilly |
Aug-16-10 05:04 PM |
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So letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire, as intended, is actually increasing the |
Honeycombe8 |
Aug-17-10 12:48 AM |
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Have read expiration may be accelerated to '13. Stupid when food stamps most stimulative to economy. |
flpoljunkie |
Aug-16-10 08:50 AM |
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So we should do the entire stimulus in food stamps, right? |
JoePhilly |
Aug-16-10 08:53 AM |
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they also want to rile up the rabble. i was at a teabagger town hall |
mopinko |
Aug-16-10 09:41 AM |
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Of course not. It does not stimulate economy to rob Peter to pay Paul, though, does it? |
flpoljunkie |
Aug-16-10 10:27 AM |
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Peter was not robbed ... that's the point ... |
JoePhilly |
Aug-16-10 11:42 AM |
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Yes, some Dems have promised to fix this. I hope they are able to do so. |
flpoljunkie |
Aug-16-10 12:20 PM |
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Somebody I see don't want the truth to get out |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 08:54 AM |
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I'm glad you brought this up so that people can see the truth. |
jaxx |
Aug-16-10 09:07 AM |
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So technically, the Bush tax cuts weren't really tax cuts either. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 09:10 AM |
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That's a totally different issue. THANK goodness |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 09:15 AM |
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Different issue but the same logic. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 09:29 AM |
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Yeah 4 years, if the increase is still needed Congress has plenty of time |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 09:40 AM |
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Riiiight. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 09:59 AM |
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"Plenty of time" |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 10:09 AM |
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Not unlike your assumption that "Congress has plenty of time to change it" |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 10:31 AM |
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Anything is a possiblity, just like the recession being over by 2014 |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 11:12 AM |
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"Because in 4 years we can expect to have even more liberals in Congress fighting for the poor. " |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 10:13 AM |
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Good friggin grief indeed. You said it. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 10:26 AM |
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Do you think the recession will last forever? |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 10:29 AM |
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This is veering from the issue. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 10:58 AM |
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It's not veering from the issue, the recession is the reason for the increase |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 11:10 AM |
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Ten points for good avoidance of my statement. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 11:25 AM |
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"Do you think the recession will last forever?" |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 11:44 AM |
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No, I don't think the recession is going to last forever. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 12:21 PM |
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I'm not the one spinning anything |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 12:54 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-16-10 01:36 PM |
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"But in my opinion they deserve to be smeared" |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 02:00 PM |
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Educate yourself. |
ipaint |
Aug-16-10 12:55 PM |
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From 1996? & 2002? This is 2010, and it's still not a cut |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 02:08 PM |
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Reduction in benefits = cut. 1996, 2002, 2007, 2017. same old same old. |
ipaint |
Aug-16-10 02:31 PM |
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2008 Farm Bill Increases to Food Stamp Program |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 02:55 PM |
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Why not make the increase permanent, since the depression for those at the bottom |
ipaint |
Aug-16-10 06:32 PM |
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It is not 12 billion in one year |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-17-10 04:02 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-17-10 06:28 AM |
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Spinning the humanity of cutting food stamps during a depression. |
ipaint |
Aug-17-10 06:32 AM |
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I had not seen that article before |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-17-10 07:43 AM |
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You and the media are leaving out the fact that a food stamp cut to |
ipaint |
Aug-17-10 08:06 AM |
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"Reduction in benefits = cut." |
boppers |
Aug-19-10 12:14 AM |
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Temp Assistance to Needy Families coming up to bat |
Riley133 |
Aug-17-10 05:51 PM |
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My hope is because it is Correct & Proper to do so |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-17-10 02:55 AM |
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Fix what now? |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 10:52 AM |
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A an actual jobs bill that doesn't use political and financial chicanery. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 11:13 AM |
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"if the food stamp increase was going to expire anyway" |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 11:43 AM |
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Woosh - miss the point completely. |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 11:46 AM |
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The money isn't being saved, it's going to fund something else. |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 02:36 PM |
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EXACTLY!!! You agree with me! |
progressoid |
Aug-16-10 03:10 PM |
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No, I don't agree with you. n/t |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 03:13 PM |
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There's always money for wars, isn't there? No cutbacks there.... n/t |
Mimosa |
Aug-17-10 02:41 AM |
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Priorities, ya know |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-17-10 02:56 AM |
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"Likewise, in four years..." |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 09:43 AM |
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Agreed |
Riley133 |
Aug-17-10 05:39 PM |
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But the logic is the same. |
fogonthelake |
Aug-16-10 09:42 AM |
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So by that logic |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 09:48 AM |
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yes, different issues, which is the important. But logic is the same. |
fogonthelake |
Aug-16-10 10:06 AM |
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So what exactly is the point |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 10:12 AM |
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you seemed so determined in the OP to say that |
fogonthelake |
Aug-16-10 10:14 AM |
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You seem so determined to IMPLY that they are being Cut |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 10:19 AM |
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yes, in 2014 the stamps will be cut according to this new law. You got it now. |
fogonthelake |
Aug-16-10 04:06 PM |
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No, that is not what I said, only what you are IMPLYING is happening |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 05:46 PM |
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LOL. I know what is happening. But I have |
fogonthelake |
Aug-16-10 05:49 PM |
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You just don't understand how to play three dimensional chess. |
Spheric |
Aug-17-10 06:47 AM |
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Um no, they were temporary tax cuts. And this was a temporary food stamp increase. |
phleshdef |
Aug-16-10 10:02 AM |
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Slightly different |
joeglow3 |
Aug-16-10 10:21 AM |
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If government is actually doing its job, those food stamps shouldn't be needed in 2014. |
phleshdef |
Aug-16-10 09:48 AM |
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exactly :) |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 10:43 AM |
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Based on what? The program is under funded at the moment |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-16-10 11:54 AM |
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Based on the fact that more people should be back to work, making actual money. |
phleshdef |
Aug-16-10 02:04 PM |
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There is no indication that more people will be back to work, earning living wages, or that |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-16-10 02:30 PM |
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What part of the word "if" in the phrase "if govt is doing its job", do you not fucking understand? |
phleshdef |
Aug-16-10 02:32 PM |
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Wrong. You asserted these conditions where a fact. Facts don't call for "if's", facts are |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-16-10 04:04 PM |
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LOL. What a load of shit. Your posts are becoming parodies of themselves at this point. |
phleshdef |
Aug-17-10 05:08 PM |
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What factor dictates a downward revision of the length of the stimulus? |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-18-10 11:56 AM |
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You are making up fucking questions regarding shit I wasn't even talking about. |
phleshdef |
Aug-18-10 02:17 PM |
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Your generalization isn't a response to a specific policy decision |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-18-10 02:56 PM |
#148 |
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Like I said, jerking off to the dictionary while saying absolutely nothing. |
phleshdef |
Aug-18-10 03:39 PM |
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I don't need a dictionary. I was reading one everyday at five but you still dodge the questions |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-18-10 06:11 PM |
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This thread is like watching Abbott and Costello doing, whose on first.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-16-10 01:33 PM |
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I couldn't agree more |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 01:54 PM |
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The M$M is getting so irrelevant |
treestar |
Aug-16-10 10:49 AM |
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The only place they could have found money is the food stamp program? |
ipaint |
Aug-16-10 10:50 AM |
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K&R for your comment. |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 11:46 AM |
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+100. Isn't it amazing though? I must say, I didn't expect this. |
inna |
Aug-16-10 04:08 PM |
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The recession will live on |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 04:16 PM |
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Of course the recession is going to live on. |
ipaint |
Aug-16-10 06:49 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-16-10 11:56 AM |
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Can you make your point without the personal attacks? nt |
Kahuna |
Aug-16-10 03:48 PM |
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No worries, I can't see it. |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 03:54 PM |
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My post wasn't to you. It was to the post that is now deleted. |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-10 11:22 AM |
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yep I know |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-18-10 11:21 AM |
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The amount is less than what?? |
JoePhilly |
Aug-16-10 04:07 PM |
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Thanks. |
Scurrilous |
Aug-16-10 01:21 PM |
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Your next scheduled pay raise is being canceled. |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 03:54 PM |
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This isn't remotely similar to a scheduled pay raise. |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 04:05 PM |
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You, of all people, I would expect to understand the significance... |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 04:34 PM |
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"messaging aspect of this decision"? |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 06:55 PM |
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You are right it's not a perfect analogy. |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 04:05 PM |
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But the increase is even less "temporary" than planned, isn't it? |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 04:30 PM |
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and absolutely nothing about present conditions signals that the conditions are improving faster |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-16-10 04:42 PM |
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No, it's not a perfect analogy. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Aug-16-10 04:07 PM |
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What makes it outright dishonest? |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 04:19 PM |
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That's exactly what happened in the 80s |
sandnsea |
Aug-16-10 05:19 PM |
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Absolutely, yes. I do remember. Frankly, I think it's a big part of the reason... |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 05:45 PM |
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Then please argue *for* repealing the Bush tax cuts |
sandnsea |
Aug-16-10 06:27 PM |
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Fail. Perhaps you were replying to someone else? |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 06:34 PM |
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The neediest got a 13% increase |
sandnsea |
Aug-16-10 06:37 PM |
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If I remember correctly, I was at Charlie's Kitchen in Harvard Square... |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 06:41 PM |
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That's not what I asked |
sandnsea |
Aug-16-10 06:59 PM |
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I'm certain I didn't go to any other diners that day... |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 07:37 PM |
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You keep skirting the question |
sandnsea |
Aug-16-10 07:54 PM |
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Eleven. Although I may have substituted "yippee" for "wahoo." - n/t |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 08:10 PM |
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You never did because you never knew |
sandnsea |
Aug-16-10 08:27 PM |
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Yep, you've sure got me figured out. |
Zenlitened |
Aug-16-10 08:38 PM |
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K&R! |
Whisp |
Aug-16-10 04:14 PM |
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Republicans are the best proof that Democrats will not let this bill affect food stamps increases. |
quiet.american |
Aug-16-10 04:24 PM |
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Tell that to a Single Mother feeding her kids on Food Stamps. |
bvar22 |
Aug-16-10 04:27 PM |
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Anyone receiving foods stamps |
ProSense |
Aug-16-10 04:40 PM |
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But But But ... the media said its a cut!!!! |
JoePhilly |
Aug-16-10 05:06 PM |
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My daughter is a single mother feeding her kids on food stamps |
sandnsea |
Aug-16-10 05:17 PM |
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Yes, it is a difficult situation to say the least.. |
fogonthelake |
Aug-17-10 07:15 AM |
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The giddy trumpeter of bad news about Democrats won't like this one |
Kingofalldems |
Aug-16-10 05:34 PM |
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There is way too much misinformation going on. |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-16-10 05:50 PM |
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How dare you post actual facts? It is so much more satisfying to rip the Dems for heartless elitism |
Hekate |
Aug-16-10 05:56 PM |
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And people who hate Obama and everything he does |
rury |
Aug-16-10 06:17 PM |
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Cutting temp or permanent food stamps, given the wealth hoarded at the top, is pathetic. |
ipaint |
Aug-16-10 07:05 PM |
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Thanks for the truth, IPaint. n/t |
Mimosa |
Aug-17-10 02:38 AM |
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It's a Republican talking point and it's being used by many here... |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-16-10 08:39 PM |
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The only difference is we are talking about poor people with little to no food and gluttonous |
ipaint |
Aug-16-10 08:45 PM |
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It's not really a solid point, though. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-16-10 08:54 PM |
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I don't see that improvement is likely at all. |
ipaint |
Aug-16-10 09:41 PM |
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And, no doubt, |
dflprincess |
Aug-16-10 10:06 PM |
#120 |
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Um, has no-one brought up the Michelle angle yet? |
smalll |
Aug-17-10 12:42 AM |
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Many seniors on S.S. are also on food stamps |
Mimosa |
Aug-17-10 02:36 AM |
#124 |
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the measure of a country is how they treat their most vulnerable |
KakistocracyHater |
Aug-17-10 06:48 AM |
#133 |
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Good to know.. |
Cha |
Aug-17-10 11:39 AM |
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I hope those people were only temporarily hungry. n/t |
EFerrari |
Aug-17-10 05:32 PM |
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I believe the politically acceptable term (whitewash) is food insecure. |
ipaint |
Aug-18-10 07:02 AM |
#143 |
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And yet, this thread got 48 votes. |
EFerrari |
Aug-18-10 11:04 AM |
#144 |
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Thanks for verifying the facts, I always wait for more info before reacting now. |
DemocraticPilgrim |
Aug-19-10 12:05 AM |
#151 |
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