RUMMYisFROSTED
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Mon Aug-16-10 03:47 PM
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| 78. Pardon my obtuseness...please give x,y axis for Hitler and Mussolini on the following grid... |
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Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 03:50 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
'Cause I don't see it.  Forecast: Lots of straw.  Quoth stevenlesser: "Even so, they are not one tick away on the left/right scale from Hitler and Mussolini, who would be pinned all the way to the right."Clue: Please don't drag Hitler and Mussolini into this discussion. It just cheapens this already useless debate. G'day. |
| -CNN POLL: 74% of Democrats want to re-nominate Obama in 2012. |
jefferson_dem |
Aug-13-10 05:57 PM |
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I wouldn't be worried about Dems. It's Independents I'd think about. |
Forkboy |
Aug-13-10 06:00 PM |
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You're most likely correct. I would suggest this is what is holding the President |
NJmaverick |
Aug-13-10 06:03 PM |
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moving further to the left would put him in the middle |
Skittles |
Aug-13-10 06:05 PM |
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You know the right |
NJmaverick |
Aug-13-10 06:11 PM |
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the left wants REAL CHANGES, not half-assed measures |
Skittles |
Aug-13-10 06:21 PM |
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You are painting with an overly broad brush |
NJmaverick |
Aug-13-10 06:30 PM |
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You don't know what you want, You just know if Obama gets it done then its disqualified. |
phleshdef |
Aug-13-10 06:32 PM |
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You need to be politically realistic. |
bobburgster |
Aug-16-10 01:22 PM |
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And meanwhile, up is down and water is dry. |
TheWraith |
Aug-13-10 06:11 PM |
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I live in the real world |
Skittles |
Aug-13-10 06:22 PM |
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If you think Obama is right-wing, than you're not dreaming, you're self-deluding. nt |
TheWraith |
Aug-13-10 06:35 PM |
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I never said he is RIGHT-WING |
Skittles |
Aug-13-10 06:40 PM |
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You expect him to get unrealistic things through Congress and blame him for not doing it. |
Pirate Smile |
Aug-13-10 07:08 PM |
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We expect him to try |
depakid |
Aug-13-10 09:09 PM |
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And if you claim he's NOT right wing, you're not dreaming OR self-deluding, you're lying. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-14-10 02:19 AM |
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Re: delusion |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-14-10 11:02 AM |
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Since we dont know what data was used to create that graph, it is irrelevant. n/t |
stevenleser |
Aug-14-10 08:07 PM |
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Except that it jibes with votes and public statements. nt |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-15-10 10:26 AM |
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Like what? You can't claim to have empirical evidence and then not show the data. n/t |
stevenleser |
Aug-15-10 10:55 AM |
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Take Obama off the chart. Do you disagree with where the others are placed? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-16-10 08:58 AM |
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I think everyone is misplaced on that graph. |
stevenleser |
Aug-16-10 02:13 PM |
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Pardon my obtuseness...please give x,y axis for Hitler and Mussolini on the following grid... |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-16-10 03:47 PM |
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Clue: This graph is your attempt at evidence, so if it doesnt work, its your problem, not mine |
stevenleser |
Aug-16-10 05:25 PM |
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The graph lacks evidence yet you pinpoint various areas on the graph. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-18-10 02:37 PM |
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Nice pic....who made it? |
bobburgster |
Aug-16-10 01:24 PM |
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Laughable when looking at Teabaggers. n/t |
vaberella |
Aug-13-10 06:54 PM |
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I honestly don't know if that's true or not. |
Forkboy |
Aug-13-10 07:24 PM |
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You think independents voted for Obama for right of center governing? |
beforeyoureyes |
Aug-16-10 04:17 PM |
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Good post. |
bigwillq |
Aug-13-10 06:08 PM |
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I worry about how long we can count on the Republicans sucking wind. |
Forkboy |
Aug-13-10 07:26 PM |
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Almost 1/4 of Dems prefer someone else. |
depakid |
Aug-13-10 06:35 PM |
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It is impressive |
catgirl |
Aug-13-10 06:56 PM |
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How Clinton escaped a primary challenge still baffles me to this day |
Ter |
Aug-14-10 12:56 AM |
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What is so baffling about that? There have been no succesful primary challenges of incumbent |
stevenleser |
Aug-14-10 08:32 PM |
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No one challenges a President expecting to be successful |
Ter |
Aug-15-10 01:15 AM |
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Tell that to your family or to the supporters who fund your campaign |
stevenleser |
Aug-15-10 07:25 AM |
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I highly doubt Reagan or Buchanan thought they were gonna win in 1976 and 1992 |
Ter |
Aug-15-10 11:38 AM |
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Ah... |
jefferson_dem |
Aug-13-10 06:59 PM |
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Hardly spin to look at what the numbers say |
depakid |
Aug-13-10 07:10 PM |
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The only factual statement you made was in the subject line. |
jefferson_dem |
Aug-13-10 07:13 PM |
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Not spin at all! |
depakid |
Aug-13-10 07:30 PM |
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"Only someone with no experience interpreting data would think that." |
jefferson_dem |
Aug-13-10 07:39 PM |
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Depakid, please be honest |
SoxFan |
Aug-13-10 08:21 PM |
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Neither, he/she is Australian and therefore doesn't vote. |
phleshdef |
Aug-13-10 08:26 PM |
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You could be way off |
depakid |
Aug-13-10 09:05 PM |
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"At least Hillary ..." |
jefferson_dem |
Aug-14-10 08:10 AM |
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Obama v. Nader v. Romney |
SoxFan |
Aug-14-10 08:30 AM |
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Hillary may not have backed from a fight as easily, but she is still |
NorthCarolina |
Aug-14-10 09:17 AM |
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I imagine that would be the case, as there were few policy differences between two |
depakid |
Aug-14-10 09:23 AM |
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Either tell me what planet you are on or admit to what you are smoking or snorting... |
stevenleser |
Aug-14-10 08:43 PM |
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Nowhere did I say |
NorthCarolina |
Aug-15-10 09:35 AM |
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Agree 100% |
Hawkowl |
Aug-15-10 03:42 PM |
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he'll be our president til 2017, what will you do until then? this same old game??? |
Aramchek |
Aug-13-10 11:51 PM |
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If you mean have a laugh and point out absurdities with the Apparatchik's |
depakid |
Aug-15-10 08:30 AM |
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Very unimpressive. Compared to the previous Democratic president, these numbers |
Mass |
Aug-14-10 08:49 AM |
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Good. I don't see anything revelatory there. |
xchrom |
Aug-13-10 06:53 PM |
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I'm surprised how low Clinton's #'s had dropped - 57%. |
Pirate Smile |
Aug-13-10 07:05 PM |
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In December 1994, Clinton was -14 versus an un-named repug... |
jefferson_dem |
Aug-13-10 07:09 PM |
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Those are the things great to remember. Ohhh, the sky is falling. Not so fast. |
Pirate Smile |
Aug-13-10 07:14 PM |
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If it wasn't for Timothy McVeigh, crazy Newt Gingrich, and a lackluster candidate like Dole... |
Ter |
Aug-14-10 12:58 AM |
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Anybody get the feeling that Obama might not want to run again? Or am I just being paranoid? |
craigmatic |
Aug-13-10 07:40 PM |
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He almost certainly will run. He LOVES the job, don't let that humble bullshit fool you... |
old mark |
Aug-13-10 07:48 PM |
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I sometimes wonder that |
marlakay |
Aug-14-10 12:24 AM |
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26% of Dems don't... that's a lot of piss tests. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Aug-13-10 08:27 PM |
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Authoritarians love those piss tests don't they? I guess they do crank and coke an know it will |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-13-10 08:58 PM |
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No. 26% of Dems and Dem-leaning independents don't. |
bornskeptic |
Aug-14-10 11:17 AM |
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A similar question, asked of Democratic Committee |
saltpoint |
Aug-13-10 09:01 PM |
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The Base is still there and still strong. |
Kind of Blue |
Aug-13-10 09:23 PM |
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I would bet money |
CTLawGuy |
Aug-14-10 12:09 AM |
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Wow -- "different candidate" -- 23% -- |
smalll |
Aug-14-10 02:39 AM |
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That's not how it works.... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Aug-14-10 07:06 AM |
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Nameless opponents regularly do better than real ones |
Alcibiades |
Aug-14-10 01:19 PM |
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Thanks. You're right. I feel a little silly; I forgot about that. /nt |
smalll |
Aug-15-10 03:11 PM |
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A primary challenge would help clarify things for a few people |
BeyondGeography |
Aug-14-10 07:36 AM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Aug-14-10 04:44 PM |
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The use of this poll panders to the crowd that wants the comfort of being in the majority group. |
L0oniX |
Aug-14-10 09:54 PM |
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More like you don't like the results of the poll, so you attack it or those who refer to it |
stevenleser |
Aug-15-10 07:26 AM |
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Nice try but you read into it too much. My response is about polls in general. |
L0oniX |
Aug-15-10 11:41 AM |
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That's what all polls do, and that's many use them for. |
Forkboy |
Aug-15-10 11:09 AM |
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If he can be a Progressive and not just campaign like one then I'd vote again... |
denimgirly |
Aug-15-10 10:55 AM |
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bless your little heart for doing your best to help republicans. |
dionysus |
Aug-17-10 09:16 AM |
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