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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 06:22 PM
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8. I live in the real world
if you're satisfied that is your fantasy but stop thinking it's those of us in the real world who are dreaming
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  -CNN POLL: 74% of Democrats want to re-nominate Obama in 2012. jefferson_dem  Aug-13-10 05:57 PM   #0 
  - I wouldn't be worried about Dems. It's Independents I'd think about.  Forkboy   Aug-13-10 06:00 PM   #1 
  - You're most likely correct. I would suggest this is what is holding the President  NJmaverick   Aug-13-10 06:03 PM   #2 
  - moving further to the left would put him in the middle  Skittles   Aug-13-10 06:05 PM   #3 
  - You know the right  NJmaverick   Aug-13-10 06:11 PM   #5 
  - the left wants REAL CHANGES, not half-assed measures  Skittles   Aug-13-10 06:21 PM   #7 
     - You are painting with an overly broad brush  NJmaverick   Aug-13-10 06:30 PM   #9 
     - You don't know what you want, You just know if Obama gets it done then its disqualified.  phleshdef   Aug-13-10 06:32 PM   #10 
     - You need to be politically realistic.  bobburgster   Aug-16-10 01:22 PM   #75 
  - And meanwhile, up is down and water is dry.  TheWraith   Aug-13-10 06:11 PM   #6 
  - I live in the real world  Skittles   Aug-13-10 06:22 PM   #8 
     - If you think Obama is right-wing, than you're not dreaming, you're self-deluding. nt  TheWraith   Aug-13-10 06:35 PM   #11 
        - I never said he is RIGHT-WING  Skittles   Aug-13-10 06:40 PM   #13 
        - You expect him to get unrealistic things through Congress and blame him for not doing it.  Pirate Smile   Aug-13-10 07:08 PM   #19 
           - We expect him to try  depakid   Aug-13-10 09:09 PM   #36 
        - And if you claim he's NOT right wing, you're not dreaming OR self-deluding, you're lying.  Jim Sagle   Aug-14-10 02:19 AM   #43 
        - Re: delusion  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-14-10 11:02 AM   #52 
           - Since we dont know what data was used to create that graph, it is irrelevant. n/t  stevenleser   Aug-14-10 08:07 PM   #56 
           - Except that it jibes with votes and public statements. nt  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-15-10 10:26 AM   #65 
              - Like what? You can't claim to have empirical evidence and then not show the data. n/t  stevenleser   Aug-15-10 10:55 AM   #67 
                 - Take Obama off the chart. Do you disagree with where the others are placed?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-16-10 08:58 AM   #74 
                    - I think everyone is misplaced on that graph.  stevenleser   Aug-16-10 02:13 PM   #77 
                       - Pardon my obtuseness...please give x,y axis for Hitler and Mussolini on the following grid...  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-16-10 03:47 PM   #78 
                          - Clue: This graph is your attempt at evidence, so if it doesnt work, its your problem, not mine  stevenleser   Aug-16-10 05:25 PM   #80 
                             - The graph lacks evidence yet you pinpoint various areas on the graph.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-18-10 02:37 PM   #82 
           - Nice pic....who made it?  bobburgster   Aug-16-10 01:24 PM   #76 
  - Laughable when looking at Teabaggers. n/t  vaberella   Aug-13-10 06:54 PM   #15 
  - I honestly don't know if that's true or not.  Forkboy   Aug-13-10 07:24 PM   #24 
  - You think independents voted for Obama for right of center governing?  beforeyoureyes   Aug-16-10 04:17 PM   #79 
  - Good post.  bigwillq   Aug-13-10 06:08 PM   #4 
     - I worry about how long we can count on the Republicans sucking wind.  Forkboy   Aug-13-10 07:26 PM   #25 
  - Almost 1/4 of Dems prefer someone else.  depakid   Aug-13-10 06:35 PM   #12 
  - It is impressive  catgirl   Aug-13-10 06:56 PM   #16 
  - How Clinton escaped a primary challenge still baffles me to this day  Ter   Aug-14-10 12:56 AM   #41 
     - What is so baffling about that? There have been no succesful primary challenges of incumbent  stevenleser   Aug-14-10 08:32 PM   #57 
        - No one challenges a President expecting to be successful  Ter   Aug-15-10 01:15 AM   #60 
           - Tell that to your family or to the supporters who fund your campaign  stevenleser   Aug-15-10 07:25 AM   #61 
              - I highly doubt Reagan or Buchanan thought they were gonna win in 1976 and 1992  Ter   Aug-15-10 11:38 AM   #69 
  - Ah...  jefferson_dem   Aug-13-10 06:59 PM   #17 
  - Hardly spin to look at what the numbers say  depakid   Aug-13-10 07:10 PM   #21 
     - The only factual statement you made was in the subject line.  jefferson_dem   Aug-13-10 07:13 PM   #22 
        - Not spin at all!  depakid   Aug-13-10 07:30 PM   #26 
           - "Only someone with no experience interpreting data would think that."  jefferson_dem   Aug-13-10 07:39 PM   #27 
  - Depakid, please be honest  SoxFan   Aug-13-10 08:21 PM   #30 
  - Neither, he/she is Australian and therefore doesn't vote.  phleshdef   Aug-13-10 08:26 PM   #31 
     - You could be way off  depakid   Aug-13-10 09:05 PM   #35 
        - "At least Hillary ..."  jefferson_dem   Aug-14-10 08:10 AM   #47 
        - Obama v. Nader v. Romney  SoxFan   Aug-14-10 08:30 AM   #48 
        - Hillary may not have backed from a fight as easily, but she is still  NorthCarolina   Aug-14-10 09:17 AM   #50 
        - I imagine that would be the case, as there were few policy differences between two  depakid   Aug-14-10 09:23 AM   #51 
        - Either tell me what planet you are on or admit to what you are smoking or snorting...  stevenleser   Aug-14-10 08:43 PM   #58 
           - Nowhere did I say  NorthCarolina   Aug-15-10 09:35 AM   #64 
        - Agree 100%  Hawkowl   Aug-15-10 03:42 PM   #73 
  - he'll be our president til 2017, what will you do until then? this same old game???  Aramchek   Aug-13-10 11:51 PM   #38 
  - If you mean have a laugh and point out absurdities with the Apparatchik's  depakid   Aug-15-10 08:30 AM   #63 
  - Very unimpressive. Compared to the previous Democratic president, these numbers  Mass   Aug-14-10 08:49 AM   #49 
  - Good. I don't see anything revelatory there.  xchrom   Aug-13-10 06:53 PM   #14 
  - I'm surprised how low Clinton's #'s had dropped - 57%.  Pirate Smile   Aug-13-10 07:05 PM   #18 
  - In December 1994, Clinton was -14 versus an un-named repug...  jefferson_dem   Aug-13-10 07:09 PM   #20 
     - Those are the things great to remember. Ohhh, the sky is falling. Not so fast.  Pirate Smile   Aug-13-10 07:14 PM   #23 
     - If it wasn't for Timothy McVeigh, crazy Newt Gingrich, and a lackluster candidate like Dole...  Ter   Aug-14-10 12:58 AM   #42 
  - Anybody get the feeling that Obama might not want to run again? Or am I just being paranoid?  craigmatic   Aug-13-10 07:40 PM   #28 
  - He almost certainly will run. He LOVES the job, don't let that humble bullshit fool you...  old mark   Aug-13-10 07:48 PM   #29 
  - I sometimes wonder that  marlakay   Aug-14-10 12:24 AM   #40 
  - 26% of Dems don't... that's a lot of piss tests. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-13-10 08:27 PM   #32 
  - Authoritarians love those piss tests don't they? I guess they do crank and coke an know it will  TheKentuckian   Aug-13-10 08:58 PM   #33 
  - No. 26% of Dems and Dem-leaning independents don't.  bornskeptic   Aug-14-10 11:17 AM   #53 
  - A similar question, asked of Democratic Committee  saltpoint   Aug-13-10 09:01 PM   #34 
  - The Base is still there and still strong.  Kind of Blue   Aug-13-10 09:23 PM   #37 
  - I would bet money  CTLawGuy   Aug-14-10 12:09 AM   #39 
  - Wow -- "different candidate" -- 23% --  smalll   Aug-14-10 02:39 AM   #44 
  - That's not how it works....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-14-10 07:06 AM   #45 
  - Nameless opponents regularly do better than real ones  Alcibiades   Aug-14-10 01:19 PM   #54 
     - Thanks. You're right. I feel a little silly; I forgot about that. /nt  smalll   Aug-15-10 03:11 PM   #71 
  - A primary challenge would help clarify things for a few people  BeyondGeography   Aug-14-10 07:36 AM   #46 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Aug-14-10 04:44 PM   #55 
  - The use of this poll panders to the crowd that wants the comfort of being in the majority group.  L0oniX   Aug-14-10 09:54 PM   #59 
  - More like you don't like the results of the poll, so you attack it or those who refer to it  stevenleser   Aug-15-10 07:26 AM   #62 
  - Nice try but you read into it too much. My response is about polls in general.  L0oniX   Aug-15-10 11:41 AM   #70 
  - That's what all polls do, and that's many use them for.  Forkboy   Aug-15-10 11:09 AM   #68 
  - If he can be a Progressive and not just campaign like one then I'd vote again...  denimgirly   Aug-15-10 10:55 AM   #66 
  - bless your little heart for doing your best to help republicans.  dionysus   Aug-17-10 09:16 AM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-15-10 03:35 PM   #72 

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