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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:58 PM
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29. No, but he is the face of the party,
And when the face of the party is doing badly, the rest of the party does as well. That's politics 101.
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  -So for those who aren't "enthused" on the upcoming elections and keep talking about it FrenchieCat  Aug-12-10 09:34 PM   #0 
  - That's just fear-mongering and it will never happen, and both sides dance to the same corporate  nemo137   Aug-12-10 09:36 PM   #1 
  - You are so right Frenchy  wndycty   Aug-12-10 09:37 PM   #2 
  - Hmm, maybe the Dems will realize that they need us and actually throw us a bone or two.  MadHound   Aug-12-10 09:37 PM   #3 
  - You won't get shit, cause the congress will be even more conservative......  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:39 PM   #4 
  - Well, again, hopefully the Dems will realize that they need the left in order to win  MadHound   Aug-12-10 09:41 PM   #5 
  - You won't get shit.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:44 PM   #10 
  - What has been thrown at me?  MadHound   Aug-12-10 09:50 PM   #18 
  - You should vote Republican then......  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:52 PM   #20 
  - Standard stupid answer.  MadHound   Aug-12-10 09:57 PM   #27 
  - In 4 months time, there will be a vote.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:11 PM   #35 
  - what's nuanced about a filibuster proof majority or crap? n/t  blueworld   Aug-13-10 12:48 PM   #118 
  - You are right...dems in congress and Obama needs to wake up  golfguru   Aug-12-10 11:21 PM   #73 
  - With people like you, I just might consider it.  Dr.Phool   Aug-13-10 09:24 AM   #108 
  - You don't know that ...  EC   Aug-12-10 10:33 PM   #53 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-13-10 08:28 AM   #104 
  - When I used to run campaigns, we always had a rule of thumb.  Dr.Phool   Aug-13-10 09:32 AM   #111 
  - No price controls is nonsense.  bornskeptic   Aug-13-10 10:15 AM   #113 
     - how about lobbyists' costs in MLR? think that's okay? Watch what  nightrain   Aug-14-10 06:10 AM   #140 
  - We don't have shit now. Shit would be an improvement on what we have now ..................  Exilednight   Aug-13-10 05:54 AM   #89 
  - You might want to look at recent history.  rufus dog   Aug-12-10 10:22 PM   #47 
     - More like LBJ  BklnDem75   Aug-13-10 06:01 AM   #90 
     - Hmm, sounds like the party needs to learn how to move to the left.  MadHound   Aug-13-10 06:49 AM   #92 
     - Perhaps you should try a new strategy  BklnDem75   Aug-13-10 07:01 AM   #94 
     - Perhaps Obama should avoid being too far right then. n/t  Jamastiene   Aug-13-10 02:31 PM   #125 
  - Besides, it's not like we're getting shit now,  MadHound   Aug-12-10 09:43 PM   #8 
  - Perhaps you ain't getting shit,  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:47 PM   #14 
     - Well, you know, we used to laugh at conservatives who voted against their own best interests,  MadHound   Aug-12-10 09:53 PM   #22 
        - The fact that you keep listing various folks.....  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:13 PM   #37 
           - Teachers got saved and Food Stamps got cut by same amount.WOW  golfguru   Aug-12-10 11:24 PM   #74 
  - Well, you know...  Chan790   Aug-12-10 10:28 PM   #50 
  - Or they could decide that they can't afford the 2-3% sliver of the left that splinters  LoZoccolo   Aug-13-10 04:13 AM   #87 
  - I think that you need to do your math again  MadHound   Aug-13-10 06:52 AM   #93 
     - I'm going by the percentage that splintered in 2000.  LoZoccolo   Aug-13-10 10:03 AM   #112 
  - Also, if this strategy worked, you would not be complaining right now.  LoZoccolo   Aug-13-10 04:16 AM   #88 
  - This is the old marxist belief - make conditions so bad people will force a revolution!  flamingdem   Aug-13-10 10:17 AM   #114 
  - Nothing,  EC   Aug-12-10 09:42 PM   #6 
  - Life goes on. As if our talking about it or not makes much difference.  leveymg   Aug-12-10 09:43 PM   #7 
  - So you are telling me to shut up, and telling me what I can talk about?  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:46 PM   #12 
     - You told us to shut up. Any surprise that we might respond in kind? This is not a constructive  leveymg   Aug-12-10 10:03 PM   #32 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-12-10 10:20 PM   #45 
           - "So for those who aren't 'enthused' on the upcoming elections and keep talking about it . . ."  leveymg   Aug-12-10 10:44 PM   #61 
  - Obama already lost the independents  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 09:43 PM   #9 
  - Obama's not running.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:45 PM   #11 
     - He may not be on the ballot, but the economy still sucks!  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 09:46 PM   #13 
     - Fox news says the same thing.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:47 PM   #15 
        - Fox doesn't have to talk the economy down. It is down!  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 09:53 PM   #21 
           - 1/2 of the economy is about consumer confidence.....  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:58 PM   #28 
              - 100% of the economy is people having jobs  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 09:59 PM   #30 
                 - Yeah. When was the last time this country was at zero unemployment?  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:18 PM   #41 
                    - A socialist government would have had full employment  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 10:40 PM   #57 
                       - You can't do those things cuz we don't have majority in congress  golfguru   Aug-12-10 11:27 PM   #75 
     - No, but he is the face of the party,  MadHound   Aug-12-10 09:58 PM   #29 
        - He'd be doing better if folks had his back instead of kicking him in the face,  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:19 PM   #43 
           - Loyalty is a two way street  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 10:41 PM   #58 
  - Then those who are bitching now will have something to really bitch about  liberal N proud   Aug-12-10 09:48 PM   #16 
  - The professional bitchers will always bitch.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:49 PM   #17 
     - But the about face on issue-after-issue should be of no concern?  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 09:55 PM   #23 
        - Tell me what he promised he would do in 20 months.......  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:56 PM   #26 
           - Deadlines?  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 10:12 PM   #36 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-12-10 10:15 PM   #39 
                 - I was just going to ask you the same thing, Frenchie.  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 10:18 PM   #42 
                 - For starters......  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:28 PM   #49 
                    - BS again....  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 10:38 PM   #55 
                       - Insurance premiums were going to go up 29% a few months ago.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:41 PM   #59 
                          - Were you this tough with critics of Bush supporters?  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 11:13 PM   #71 
                             - Silly question  BklnDem75   Aug-13-10 08:17 AM   #101 
                 - Come on, Frenchie --- answer my questions! It's easy to blindly follow your leader isn't it?  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 10:30 PM   #51 
  - It means.....  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 09:51 PM   #19 
  - We will all live with the consequences of your exaggerations, you keep it up!  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 09:55 PM   #25 
     - You are deluding yourself  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 10:02 PM   #31 
     - You are one big professional Left complainer billboard.......  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:34 PM   #54 
     - Oh, I can tell you have no problem with me. Though, you're wrong in your assertion.  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 11:19 PM   #72 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-12-10 10:48 PM   #63 
     - We're up to 20 months already? Time flies.  donco6   Aug-14-10 07:10 AM   #142 
  - Probably an escalation in Afghanistan in 10 months.  rug   Aug-12-10 09:55 PM   #24 
  - The people who don't vote  Mz Pip   Aug-12-10 10:07 PM   #33 
  - People that don't vote know the system is rigged  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 10:14 PM   #38 
  - People that don't vote ain't got shit to or ever.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:16 PM   #40 
     - I don't think you will do as a volunteer to register new voters  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 10:19 PM   #44 
     - Sure. It's all about me and what I'll do!  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:39 PM   #56 
     - Seriously, her talking points are STELLAR! eom  Hello_Kitty   Aug-12-10 10:51 PM   #65 
     - Stellar like Westboro Baptist Church groupies are stellar  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 10:57 PM   #67 
     - And you will?  BklnDem75   Aug-13-10 07:26 AM   #97 
     - Your Signature  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 10:26 PM   #48 
     - I'm awake and living in the world where pain is all too real.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:32 PM   #52 
        - You are not living in Greece, obviously!  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 10:43 PM   #60 
        - Greece is why the recovery has slowed down.  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 10:50 PM   #64 
           - You don't know anything about what is happening in Greece!  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 10:59 PM   #68 
           - Well, if I recall, you're the smart one around here......  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 11:10 PM   #70 
              - I know what the situation is in Greece, from the workers' point of view  IndianaGreen   Aug-12-10 11:44 PM   #76 
           - You are repeating a very, very reactionary meme about Greece.  JoseGaspar   Aug-13-10 03:43 AM   #86 
        - For someone supposedly committed to spending all her time "kicking Republican ass"  Hello_Kitty   Aug-12-10 10:54 PM   #66 
           - What makes you think I'm not a hippy?  FrenchieCat   Aug-12-10 11:09 PM   #69 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-13-10 02:37 PM   #127 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-13-10 11:34 PM   #139 
     - Vote or lose your First Amendment rights? Is that what you're saying?  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-13-10 12:57 PM   #119 
  - Actually - unfortunately - it's determined by those who DON'T show up. -nt  democrat2thecore   Aug-12-10 10:22 PM   #46 
  - Lots of hand wringing and surprise when many Democrats move farther to the right.  elocs   Aug-12-10 10:09 PM   #34 
  - Beatings will continue until morale improves! eom  Hello_Kitty   Aug-12-10 10:46 PM   #62 
  - What will happen? You'll get to put up a lot more posts like this  jgraz   Aug-13-10 12:24 AM   #77 
  - It is a sensible strategery!  IndianaGreen   Aug-13-10 12:29 AM   #78 
     - I guess we'll get to see the results of the chess match  jgraz   Aug-13-10 01:58 AM   #80 
  - Shouldn't you be spending more time away from DU and in helping Barbara Boxer?  IndianaGreen   Aug-13-10 12:36 AM   #79 
  - Barbara doesn't look as dreamy in a swimsuit.  jgraz   Aug-13-10 01:58 AM   #81 
     - ....  Lorien   Aug-13-10 02:17 AM   #83 
     - ...  LostinVA   Aug-13-10 08:29 AM   #105 
     - +1  Yuugal   Aug-13-10 09:31 AM   #110 
     - ...  Jamastiene   Aug-13-10 02:47 PM   #129 
  - then our party learns n/t  bkozumplik   Aug-13-10 02:16 AM   #82 
  - Didn't learn in 2000 or 2004.  JoePhilly   Aug-13-10 07:01 AM   #95 
  - What do you mean lose congress?  Jakes Progress   Aug-13-10 02:49 AM   #84 
  - THAT seems more to the point. Corporations have Congress. Let  nightrain   Aug-14-10 06:17 AM   #141 
  - Maybe people like you will learn that settling for "pretty good"  Jakes Progress   Aug-13-10 02:59 AM   #85 
  - Tell me again  BklnDem75   Aug-13-10 07:35 AM   #98 
  - Chuckeliscious.  Jakes Progress   Aug-13-10 03:58 PM   #136 
  - This post is what they are referring to when people say  NJmaverick   Aug-13-10 07:56 AM   #100 
  - Basic civility is not a form of perfection. It's what most kids learn before they hit kindergarten.  EFerrari   Aug-13-10 02:12 PM   #121 
  - You have a different definition of "good" than I.  Jakes Progress   Aug-13-10 03:57 PM   #134 
  - +1  spiritual_gunfighter   Aug-13-10 08:22 AM   #103 
     - They don't care.  Jakes Progress   Aug-13-10 03:59 PM   #137 
  - You keep fighting the good fight Frenchie. I don't get how some feel thowing the towel is the best..  ProgressOnTheMove   Aug-13-10 06:06 AM   #91 
  - People are doing the OPPOSITE of throwing in the towel  LostinVA   Aug-13-10 08:30 AM   #106 
  - Standing up for the basic respect owed to voters is not throwing in the towel.  EFerrari   Aug-13-10 02:16 PM   #122 
  - Eventually "pragmatic" "liberals" and "sensible centrist" will join professional liberals in  TheKentuckian   Aug-13-10 07:14 AM   #96 
  - Pragmatic Obama supporters know about Republican obstructionsim  flamingdem   Aug-13-10 10:21 AM   #116 
     - Ok, then I bet you can name some examples of who in that class is beating those drums  TheKentuckian   Aug-13-10 01:40 PM   #120 
  - If we lose the House, it will be because of Jobs and the economy.  John Agar   Aug-13-10 07:45 AM   #99 
  - Then we swing. Back and forth, back and forth as we have for decades.  Lucky 13   Aug-13-10 08:22 AM   #102 
  - What happens when you let Meg get to Sacramento?  Bluenorthwest   Aug-13-10 08:56 AM   #107 
  - I agree, we must get out the vote in California  flamingdem   Aug-13-10 10:19 AM   #115 
  - fearmongering -- it's what's for breakfast!  Donnachaidh   Aug-13-10 09:27 AM   #109 
  - You may think you're helping him, but you are really doing the President a disservice.  myrna minx   Aug-13-10 12:10 PM   #117 
  - Yeah, bitching about nothing is much more constructive and helpful.  Phx_Dem   Aug-13-10 02:30 PM   #124 
  - Kiss repeal of DADT, DOMA goodbye. And possibly see amendment  Phx_Dem   Aug-13-10 02:29 PM   #123 
  - You seem obsessed with gays in your post. I don't see how Frenchie's OP was talking about that.  jesus_of_suburbia   Aug-13-10 02:34 PM   #126 
     - How so? Mentioning gay issues that are important to all Democrats,  Phx_Dem   Aug-13-10 02:44 PM   #128 
  - Damn! My crystal ball is in the shop. n/t  Jamastiene   Aug-13-10 02:57 PM   #130 
  - perhaps you should see the front page of AOL today? Or talk to the teachers who came to my house  flyarm   Aug-13-10 03:39 PM   #131 
  - perhaps telling part of the party to go fuck off was not helpful?  Warren Stupidity   Aug-13-10 03:41 PM   #132 
  - someone in this White house should have thought long and hard about your questions before letting  flyarm   Aug-13-10 03:51 PM   #133 
  - Heres the thing  JustAnotherGen   Aug-13-10 03:57 PM   #135 
  - It is being repeated over and over. One of those repeating it was Gibbs.  laughingliberal   Aug-13-10 07:28 PM   #138 
  - STFU, Take 235 -  donco6   Aug-14-10 07:14 AM   #143 
  - Just because I'm not enthused doesn't mean I won't vote.  hobbit709   Aug-14-10 07:35 AM   #144 

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